Extra week for Gage to dial it in - extra time to drink on Sat.

(03-09-2021 03:17 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  FWIW of the 41 games scheduled for next week, W&M @ JMU 1 of only 3 postponed.
https://www.ncaa.com/scoreboard/football...5/all-conf

If you look at all 4 weeks on the NCAA website:
Week 1: 19 games scheduled/7 postponed.
Week 2: 29 games scheduled/4 postponed.
Week 3: 35 games scheduled/4 postponed.
Week 4: 41 games scheduled/3 postponed so far, including W&M @ JMU.

Total 124 games scheduled/18 postponed, about 15%. So if you play 6-8 games, odds are you will have 1 postponement..

Monmouth @ RMU postponed, so make that a 4th for this upcoming weekend. Both teams only have 3 other Big South games over the following 5 weekends 3/20-4/17, both have the last week 4/17 off, so I assume that's when they'll reschedule. Course the more Big South games RMU wins, the better it is for JMU's SOS.

(03-09-2021 03:35 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  If I remember correctly, the Fall season hovered around 80% of the games played as scheduled. That is a pretty good rate for operating in the pandemic.
Smaller FCS rosters may make it more challenging as position groups get wiped out with less depth.

Sucks for Idaho. After upsetting EWU (aided by the infamous blown FG call), they are 'upset' by UC Davis 27-17 while missing 8 starters due to the virus.

This upcoming weekend UCD is @ Weber. UCD is currently monitoring players since 4 more Idaho players tested positive subsequent to the game.
https://www.davisenterprise.com/sports/a...daho-game/

If UCD @ Weber was postponed, it likely wouldn't be made up, as Weber has already had one game with Cal Poly postponed. Which means you could have a 5-0 Weber, which would have major seed ramifications. I don't see a 5 win team with potentially no wins against another playoff team, be seeded.

(03-09-2021 03:35 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  If I remember correctly, the Fall season hovered around 80% of the games played as scheduled. That is a pretty good rate for operating in the pandemic.
Smaller FCS rosters may make it more challenging as position groups get wiped out with less depth.

Also the % is dropping.
Week 1: 19 games scheduled/7 postponed (37%).
Week 2: 29 games scheduled/4 postponed (14%)
Week 3: 35 games scheduled/4 postponed (11%)
Week 4: 41 games scheduled/4 postponed (10%)

The rate things are going, I wouldn't be surprised to see in April weekends with just 1-2 games postponed, maybe even a weekend or 2 with zero..

(03-10-2021 02:49 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(03-09-2021 03:35 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  If I remember correctly, the Fall season hovered around 80% of the games played as scheduled. That is a pretty good rate for operating in the pandemic.
Smaller FCS rosters may make it more challenging as position groups get wiped out with less depth.

Sucks for Idaho. After upsetting EWU (aided by the infamous blown FG call), they are 'upset' by UC Davis 27-17 while missing 8 starters due to the virus.

This upcoming weekend UCD is @ Weber. UCD is currently monitoring players since 4 more Idaho players tested positive subsequent to the game.
https://www.davisenterprise.com/sports/a...daho-game/

If UCD @ Weber was postponed, it likely wouldn't be made up, as Weber has already had one game with Cal Poly postponed. Which means you could have a 5-0 Weber, which would have major seed ramifications. I don't see a 5 win team with potentially no wins against another playoff team, be seeded.

I thought i saw somewhere there is a minimum requirement of games played to qualify for the post season that was either 4 or six games?

(03-10-2021 02:49 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(03-09-2021 03:35 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  If I remember correctly, the Fall season hovered around 80% of the games played as scheduled. That is a pretty good rate for operating in the pandemic.
Smaller FCS rosters may make it more challenging as position groups get wiped out with less depth.

Sucks for Idaho. After upsetting EWU (aided by the infamous blown FG call), they are 'upset' by UC Davis 27-17 while missing 8 starters due to the virus.

This upcoming weekend UCD is @ Weber. UCD is currently monitoring players since 4 more Idaho players tested positive subsequent to the game.
https://www.davisenterprise.com/sports/a...daho-game/

If UCD @ Weber was postponed, it likely wouldn't be made up, as Weber has already had one game with Cal Poly postponed. Which means you could have a 5-0 Weber, which would have major seed ramifications. I don't see a 5 win team with potentially no wins against another playoff team, be seeded.

Think back just a few months, Ohio State. Right or wrong, the NCAA does what's best for the NCAA.

(03-10-2021 02:49 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(03-09-2021 03:35 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  If I remember correctly, the Fall season hovered around 80% of the games played as scheduled. That is a pretty good rate for operating in the pandemic.
Smaller FCS rosters may make it more challenging as position groups get wiped out with less depth.

Sucks for Idaho. After upsetting EWU (aided by the infamous blown FG call), they are 'upset' by UC Davis 27-17 while missing 8 starters due to the virus.

This upcoming weekend UCD is @ Weber. UCD is currently monitoring players since 4 more Idaho players tested positive subsequent to the game.
https://www.davisenterprise.com/sports/a...daho-game/

If UCD @ Weber was postponed, it likely wouldn't be made up, as Weber has already had one game with Cal Poly postponed. Which means you could have a 5-0 Weber, which would have major seed ramifications. I don't see a 5 win team with potentially no wins against another playoff team, be seeded.

How many teams would be able to meet this criteria with the lack of OOC play? It seems it would mostly have to be conferences that get the at large bids. A smaller field plus limited OOC make it much harder to show a win against other playoff teams

In Big Sky it seems the early favorites (EWU/Weber) don’t play each other. So would all 4 seeds come from MVC and CAA north? That seems unlikely also. JMU is not likely to have any wins against a playoff team. I’m not sure if JSU will either, though I think they may be in the discussion due to their FBS win if they win out.

While it’s pretty early yet, and hard to know how the committee handles this season with the difficulty in evaluating teams across conferences ... my current guess for seeds would be something like:

MVC conf champ (UND/SDSU/NDSU?)
CAA conf champ (JMU/UD/Nova?)
BigSky conf champ (Weber?)
SLC conf champ (Nicholls/SHSU?)
Maybe OVC champ (JSU?)

NDSU is playing all the bad MVC schools right now. Their last four games are against the top of the league. Any loss in the first five games is a bad loss. They had a close game against Central Arkansas last fall and that was with Trey Lance. Here are their last four opponents:

SD, ND, SDSU & UNI.

I see at least two losses against these teams and possibly three. The balance of power in FCS may be changing.

(03-11-2021 12:13 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  NDSU is playing all the bad MVC schools right now. Their last four games are against the top of the league. Any loss in the first five games is a bad loss. They had a close game against Central Arkansas last fall and that was with Trey Lance. Here are their last four opponents:

SD, ND, SDSU & UNI.

I see at least two losses against these teams and possibly three. The balance of power in FCS may be changing.

It's hard to count them out just yet, but clearly they are looking weak this season. I found it a little humorous that they moved up in the stats poll with a win over MSU. ISU at 0-2 is no real test this week either.

Out of SD, ND, SDSU & UNI, i think SDSU and UND are potential/likely losses for them. Would be a dramatic change if they drop more than that. Would they make the field at 6-3? Seems like a stretch, but might be possible depending how everything else shakes out.

It looks like they've been hit by a combination of poor o-line/d-line play and a QB that isn't working with run oriented system. Not sure if they can fix these issues in Spring season, though would be surprising if they don't have some answers by Fall (eg: new QB or adjusted schemes)

(03-11-2021 12:13 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  NDSU is playing all the bad MVC schools right now. Their last four games are against the top of the league. Any loss in the first five games is a bad loss. They had a close game against Central Arkansas last fall and that was with Trey Lance. Here are their last four opponents:

SD, ND, SDSU & UNI.

I see at least two losses against these teams and possibly three. The balance of power in FCS may be changing.

SIU (3-1/2-1) is a bad MVFC school . They were presason picked in the top half of the MVFC (5th). They have a fall OOC win over a a probably top 2 OVC in SEMO, they thumped NDSU, and won @ YSU. They did get thumped @ UND, a game SIU was favored in. SIU certainly appears to be one of the top 4 or so MVFC.

(03-11-2021 02:03 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(03-11-2021 12:13 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  NDSU is playing all the bad MVC schools right now. Their last four games are against the top of the league. Any loss in the first five games is a bad loss. They had a close game against Central Arkansas last fall and that was with Trey Lance. Here are their last four opponents:

SD, ND, SDSU & UNI.

I see at least two losses against these teams and possibly three. The balance of power in FCS may be changing.

It's hard to count them out just yet, but clearly they are looking weak this season. I found it a little humorous that they moved up in the stats poll with a win over MSU. ISU at 0-2 is no real test this week either.

Out of SD, ND, SDSU & UNI, i think SDSU and UND are potential/likely losses for them. Would be a dramatic change if they drop more than that. Would they make the field at 6-3? Seems like a stretch, but might be possible depending how everything else shakes out.

It looks like they've been hit by a combination of poor o-line/d-line play and a QB that isn't working with run oriented system. Not sure if they can fix these issues in Spring season, though would be surprising if they don't have some answers by Fall (eg: new QB or adjusted schemes)

Unfortunately NDSU gets both of them in the Fargo Dome.

(03-11-2021 02:36 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(03-11-2021 02:03 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(03-11-2021 12:13 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  NDSU is playing all the bad MVC schools right now. Their last four games are against the top of the league. Any loss in the first five games is a bad loss. They had a close game against Central Arkansas last fall and that was with Trey Lance. Here are their last four opponents:

SD, ND, SDSU & UNI.

I see at least two losses against these teams and possibly three. The balance of power in FCS may be changing.

It's hard to count them out just yet, but clearly they are looking weak this season. I found it a little humorous that they moved up in the stats poll with a win over MSU. ISU at 0-2 is no real test this week either.

Out of SD, ND, SDSU & UNI, i think SDSU and UND are potential/likely losses for them. Would be a dramatic change if they drop more than that. Would they make the field at 6-3? Seems like a stretch, but might be possible depending how everything else shakes out.

It looks like they've been hit by a combination of poor o-line/d-line play and a QB that isn't working with run oriented system. Not sure if they can fix these issues in Spring season, though would be surprising if they don't have some answers by Fall (eg: new QB or adjusted schemes)

Unfortunately NDSU gets both of them in the Fargo Dome.

That appears to be a little bit less of an advantage this Spring with attendance caps and masks. The dome does not seem as loud this season as in prior ones.

(03-11-2021 10:03 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(03-10-2021 02:49 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(03-09-2021 03:35 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  If I remember correctly, the Fall season hovered around 80% of the games played as scheduled. That is a pretty good rate for operating in the pandemic.
Smaller FCS rosters may make it more challenging as position groups get wiped out with less depth.

Sucks for Idaho. After upsetting EWU (aided by the infamous blown FG call), they are 'upset' by UC Davis 27-17 while missing 8 starters due to the virus.

This upcoming weekend UCD is @ Weber. UCD is currently monitoring players since 4 more Idaho players tested positive subsequent to the game.
https://www.davisenterprise.com/sports/a...daho-game/

If UCD @ Weber was postponed, it likely wouldn't be made up, as Weber has already had one game with Cal Poly postponed. Which means you could have a 5-0 Weber, which would have major seed ramifications. I don't see a 5 win team with potentially no wins against another playoff team, be seeded.

How many teams would be able to meet this criteria with the lack of OOC play? It seems it would mostly have to be conferences that get the at large bids. A smaller field plus limited OOC make it much harder to show a win against other playoff teams

In Big Sky it seems the early favorites (EWU/Weber) don’t play each other. So would all 4 seeds come from MVC and CAA north? That seems unlikely also. JMU is not likely to have any wins against a playoff team. I’m not sure if JSU will either, though I think they may be in the discussion due to their FBS win if they win out.

While it’s pretty early yet, and hard to know how the committee handles this season with the difficulty in evaluating teams across conferences ... my current guess for seeds would be something like:

MVC conf champ (UND/SDSU/NDSU?)
CAA conf champ (JMU/UD/Nova?)
BigSky conf champ (Weber?)
SLC conf champ (Nicholls/SHSU?)
Maybe OVC champ (JSU?)

No.
-The MVFC could have at least one 7 win team/1 loss team, maybe 2, with a win over another playoff team.
-The CAA could have an 8-0 JMU and/or a 6-0 North team
-The SLC could have a 6-0 SHSU or Nichols with a win over another playoff team (SHSU or Nichols).
-The OVC could have a 9-1 JSU with a G-5 win, 8-0 vs I-AA.

There could be a 1/2 doz teams with a better resume than a 5-0 Weber team (if they don't get all 6 games in) that didn't play EWU, and you have the other 3 top Big Sky teams (from last season) all sitting out. If they gave a 5-0 Weber the #4 seed over any of the above, that would be complete crap.

(03-11-2021 02:57 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(03-11-2021 10:03 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(03-10-2021 02:49 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(03-09-2021 03:35 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  If I remember correctly, the Fall season hovered around 80% of the games played as scheduled. That is a pretty good rate for operating in the pandemic.
Smaller FCS rosters may make it more challenging as position groups get wiped out with less depth.

Sucks for Idaho. After upsetting EWU (aided by the infamous blown FG call), they are 'upset' by UC Davis 27-17 while missing 8 starters due to the virus.

This upcoming weekend UCD is @ Weber. UCD is currently monitoring players since 4 more Idaho players tested positive subsequent to the game.
https://www.davisenterprise.com/sports/a...daho-game/

If UCD @ Weber was postponed, it likely wouldn't be made up, as Weber has already had one game with Cal Poly postponed. Which means you could have a 5-0 Weber, which would have major seed ramifications. I don't see a 5 win team with potentially no wins against another playoff team, be seeded.

How many teams would be able to meet this criteria with the lack of OOC play? It seems it would mostly have to be conferences that get the at large bids. A smaller field plus limited OOC make it much harder to show a win against other playoff teams

In Big Sky it seems the early favorites (EWU/Weber) don’t play each other. So would all 4 seeds come from MVC and CAA north? That seems unlikely also. JMU is not likely to have any wins against a playoff team. I’m not sure if JSU will either, though I think they may be in the discussion due to their FBS win if they win out.

While it’s pretty early yet, and hard to know how the committee handles this season with the difficulty in evaluating teams across conferences ... my current guess for seeds would be something like:

MVC conf champ (UND/SDSU/NDSU?)
CAA conf champ (JMU/UD/Nova?)
BigSky conf champ (Weber?)
SLC conf champ (Nicholls/SHSU?)
Maybe OVC champ (JSU?)

No.
-The MVFC could have at least one 7 win team/1 loss team, maybe 2, with a win over another playoff team.
-The CAA could have an 8-0 JMU and/or a 6-0 North team
-The SLC could have a 6-0 SHSU or Nichols with a win over another playoff team (SHSU or Nichols).
-The OVC could have a 9-1 JSU with a G-5 win, 8-0 vs I-AA.

There could be a 1/2 doz teams with a better resume than a 5-0 Weber team (if they don't get all 6 games in) that didn't play EWU, and you have the other 3 top Big Sky teams (from last season) all sitting out. If they gave a 5-0 Weber the #4 seed over any of the above, that would be complete crap.

This assumes Weber is unable to reschedule that game, and all these other teams can play a full slate (we already have one postponement also).

My hunch is the seeds will be 4 out of those 5 conference champs, and JSU's resume may be good enough to take a seed away from the BigSky or SLC. Just like at-large bids this season, seeds will be highly debated and I'm sure at least one team will feel like they got the short straw.

(03-11-2021 03:07 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(03-11-2021 02:57 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(03-11-2021 10:03 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(03-10-2021 02:49 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(03-09-2021 03:35 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  If I remember correctly, the Fall season hovered around 80% of the games played as scheduled. That is a pretty good rate for operating in the pandemic.
Smaller FCS rosters may make it more challenging as position groups get wiped out with less depth.

Sucks for Idaho. After upsetting EWU (aided by the infamous blown FG call), they are 'upset' by UC Davis 27-17 while missing 8 starters due to the virus.

This upcoming weekend UCD is @ Weber. UCD is currently monitoring players since 4 more Idaho players tested positive subsequent to the game.
https://www.davisenterprise.com/sports/a...daho-game/

If UCD @ Weber was postponed, it likely wouldn't be made up, as Weber has already had one game with Cal Poly postponed. Which means you could have a 5-0 Weber, which would have major seed ramifications. I don't see a 5 win team with potentially no wins against another playoff team, be seeded.

How many teams would be able to meet this criteria with the lack of OOC play? It seems it would mostly have to be conferences that get the at large bids. A smaller field plus limited OOC make it much harder to show a win against other playoff teams

In Big Sky it seems the early favorites (EWU/Weber) don’t play each other. So would all 4 seeds come from MVC and CAA north? That seems unlikely also. JMU is not likely to have any wins against a playoff team. I’m not sure if JSU will either, though I think they may be in the discussion due to their FBS win if they win out.

While it’s pretty early yet, and hard to know how the committee handles this season with the difficulty in evaluating teams across conferences ... my current guess for seeds would be something like:

MVC conf champ (UND/SDSU/NDSU?)
CAA conf champ (JMU/UD/Nova?)
BigSky conf champ (Weber?)
SLC conf champ (Nicholls/SHSU?)
Maybe OVC champ (JSU?)

No.
-The MVFC could have at least one 7 win team/1 loss team, maybe 2, with a win over another playoff team.
-The CAA could have an 8-0 JMU and/or a 6-0 North team
-The SLC could have a 6-0 SHSU or Nichols with a win over another playoff team (SHSU or Nichols).
-The OVC could have a 9-1 JSU with a G-5 win, 8-0 vs I-AA.

There could be a 1/2 doz teams with a better resume than a 5-0 Weber team (if they don't get all 6 games in) that didn't play EWU, and you have the other 3 top Big Sky teams (from last season) all sitting out. If they gave a 5-0 Weber the #4 seed over any of the above, that would be complete crap.

This assumes Weber is unable to reschedule that game, and all these other teams can play a full slate (we already have one postponement also).

My hunch is the seeds will be 4 out of those 5 conference champs, and JSU's resume may be good enough to take a seed away from the BigSky or SLC. Just like at-large bids this season, seeds will be highly debated and I'm sure at least one team will feel like they got the short straw.

My OP was based on that. As of now, UCD @ Weber is still on, Weber has rescheduled their postponed CP game to the to the last weekend.

(03-11-2021 02:42 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(03-11-2021 02:36 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(03-11-2021 02:03 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(03-11-2021 12:13 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  NDSU is playing all the bad MVC schools right now. Their last four games are against the top of the league. Any loss in the first five games is a bad loss. They had a close game against Central Arkansas last fall and that was with Trey Lance. Here are their last four opponents:

SD, ND, SDSU & UNI.

I see at least two losses against these teams and possibly three. The balance of power in FCS may be changing.

It's hard to count them out just yet, but clearly they are looking weak this season. I found it a little humorous that they moved up in the stats poll with a win over MSU. ISU at 0-2 is no real test this week either.

Out of SD, ND, SDSU & UNI, i think SDSU and UND are potential/likely losses for them. Would be a dramatic change if they drop more than that. Would they make the field at 6-3? Seems like a stretch, but might be possible depending how everything else shakes out.

It looks like they've been hit by a combination of poor o-line/d-line play and a QB that isn't working with run oriented system. Not sure if they can fix these issues in Spring season, though would be surprising if they don't have some answers by Fall (eg: new QB or adjusted schemes)

Unfortunately NDSU gets both of them in the Fargo Dome.

That appears to be a little bit less of an advantage this Spring with attendance caps and masks. The dome does not seem as loud this season as in prior ones.

True.

But on the other hand, there was a coach last month (forgot who) who was talking about how traveling to and playing an away game presented more issues due to all the additional virus protocols.

Couldn't make a fair comparison between 2019 and 2020/2021 home winning percentages because so many teams (FBS & FCS) are conference only/no home OOC cupcakes, which drags the home winning percentage down. But I wonder how home conference games only winning percentage would compare 2019 to 2020/2021 across all of FCS? Wouldn't be surprised if home winning percentage ticked up for conference games..

(03-11-2021 02:30 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(03-11-2021 12:13 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  NDSU is playing all the bad MVC schools right now. Their last four games are against the top of the league. Any loss in the first five games is a bad loss. They had a close game against Central Arkansas last fall and that was with Trey Lance. Here are their last four opponents:

SD, ND, SDSU & UNI.

I see at least two losses against these teams and possibly three. The balance of power in FCS may be changing.

SIU (3-1/2-1) is a bad MVFC school . They were presason picked in the top half of the MVFC (5th). They have a fall OOC win over a a probably top 2 OVC in SEMO, they thumped NDSU, and won @ YSU. They did get thumped @ UND, a game SIU was favored in. SIU certainly appears to be one of the top 4 or so MVFC.

Compared to the top MVC schools...yes. I don’t think they will finish in the top three of their conference. Beating an OVC school is no great accomplishment. The OVC is a league of lame football schools except JSU. I also don’t feel all MVC schools are good football teams either.

JMU has manhandled every MVC school other than NDSU in recent years. There are some good teams in the MVC but the overall impression of the league is inflated because of NDSU winning championships every year.

(03-12-2021 08:31 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(03-11-2021 02:30 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(03-11-2021 12:13 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  NDSU is playing all the bad MVC schools right now. Their last four games are against the top of the league. Any loss in the first five games is a bad loss. They had a close game against Central Arkansas last fall and that was with Trey Lance. Here are their last four opponents:

SD, ND, SDSU & UNI.

I see at least two losses against these teams and possibly three. The balance of power in FCS may be changing.

SIU (3-1/2-1) is a bad MVFC school . They were presason picked in the top half of the MVFC (5th). They have a fall OOC win over a a probably top 2 OVC in SEMO, they thumped NDSU, and won @ YSU. They did get thumped @ UND, a game SIU was favored in. SIU certainly appears to be one of the top 4 or so MVFC.

Compared to the top MVC schools...yes. I don’t think they will finish in the top three of their conference. Beating an OVC school is no great accomplishment. The OVC is a league of lame football schools except JSU. I also don’t feel all MVC schools are good football teams either.

JMU has manhandled every MVC school other than NDSU in recent years. There are some good teams in the MVC but the overall impression of the league is inflated because of NDSU winning championships every year.

You said ‘bad MVFC schools’. So now a 4th place MVFC school is a bad MVFC team? Heck that conference has often got 4 in the playoffs..

(03-12-2021 11:13 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(03-12-2021 08:31 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(03-11-2021 02:30 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(03-11-2021 12:13 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  NDSU is playing all the bad MVC schools right now. Their last four games are against the top of the league. Any loss in the first five games is a bad loss. They had a close game against Central Arkansas last fall and that was with Trey Lance. Here are their last four opponents:

SD, ND, SDSU & UNI.

I see at least two losses against these teams and possibly three. The balance of power in FCS may be changing.

SIU (3-1/2-1) is a bad MVFC school . They were presason picked in the top half of the MVFC (5th). They have a fall OOC win over a a probably top 2 OVC in SEMO, they thumped NDSU, and won @ YSU. They did get thumped @ UND, a game SIU was favored in. SIU certainly appears to be one of the top 4 or so MVFC.

Compared to the top MVC schools...yes. I don’t think they will finish in the top three of their conference. Beating an OVC school is no great accomplishment. The OVC is a league of lame football schools except JSU. I also don’t feel all MVC schools are good football teams either.

JMU has manhandled every MVC school other than NDSU in recent years. There are some good teams in the MVC but the overall impression of the league is inflated because of NDSU winning championships every year.

You said ‘bad MVFC schools’. So now a 4th place MVFC school is a bad MVFC team? Heck that conference has often got 4 in the playoffs..

Southern Illinois was beaten 44-21 by NDU and barely beat YSU 30-22. YSU is 0-3 on the season and in 2019 they finished 2-6 in the MVC. SIU was 7-5 in 2019 and finished 4th in the MVC at 5-3. 2018 they finished 10th in the MVC and in 2016 & 2017 8th. Do you think their recent history suggests they will will be a top MVC team this year?

There have only been three games played in their season so kind of tough to judge them definitively either way but history sure suggests they are a bad MVC team and one win over NDSU doesn’t mean they are suddenly a top MVC team.

(03-12-2021 11:51 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(03-12-2021 11:13 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(03-12-2021 08:31 AM)JMUNation Wrote:  

(03-11-2021 02:30 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(03-11-2021 12:13 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  NDSU is playing all the bad MVC schools right now. Their last four games are against the top of the league. Any loss in the first five games is a bad loss. They had a close game against Central Arkansas last fall and that was with Trey Lance. Here are their last four opponents:

SD, ND, SDSU & UNI.

I see at least two losses against these teams and possibly three. The balance of power in FCS may be changing.

SIU (3-1/2-1) is a bad MVFC school . They were presason picked in the top half of the MVFC (5th). They have a fall OOC win over a a probably top 2 OVC in SEMO, they thumped NDSU, and won @ YSU. They did get thumped @ UND, a game SIU was favored in. SIU certainly appears to be one of the top 4 or so MVFC.

Compared to the top MVC schools...yes. I don’t think they will finish in the top three of their conference. Beating an OVC school is no great accomplishment. The OVC is a league of lame football schools except JSU. I also don’t feel all MVC schools are good football teams either.

JMU has manhandled every MVC school other than NDSU in recent years. There are some good teams in the MVC but the overall impression of the league is inflated because of NDSU winning championships every year.

You said ‘bad MVFC schools’. So now a 4th place MVFC school is a bad MVFC team? Heck that conference has often got 4 in the playoffs..

Southern Illinois was beaten 44-21 by NDU and barely beat YSU 30-22. YSU is 0-3 on the season and in 2019 they finished 2-6 in the MVC. SIU was 7-5 in 2019 and finished 4th in the MVC at 5-3. 2018 they finished 10th in the MVC and in 2016 & 2017 8th. Do you think their recent history suggests they will will be a top MVC team this year?

There have only been three games played in their season so kind of tough to judge them definitively either way but history sure suggests they are a bad MVC team and one win over NDSU doesn’t mean they are suddenly a top MVC team.

I don’t care about past years. There are countless examples of teams being at/near the bottom of a conference one year, and being at/near the top the next year, and vice-versa. SIU DESTROYED NDSU. It wasn‘t even as close as the 38-14 score. Was 38-7 late 4th. NDSU had scored on an end of half hail mary and a garbage time TD. This wasn‘t a 1 score fluke where everything bounced SIU‘s way, which there are a few cases of in the past of NDSU dropping one to a non playoff MVFC team. It wasn’t because of a slew of NDSU turnovers- NDSU had 1. It wasn‘t because of defensive or special teams scoring. 5 of 6 SIU scoring drives were long 49-93 yds. You don‘t give NDSU their worst loss is 15 years or whatever it is, if you’re a bad MVFC team. If SIU this season is a bad MVFC team as you claim, then so is NDSU..