(02-23-2021 12:36 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 11:26 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 11:14 AM)DFWMINER Wrote:  I wonder if we would ignore people if we were all in the same room having a beer together? Would the discord be as strong?

Of course it wouldn't. There would be a small percentage of the people on here who would name call & shout at the rain as they do on here, but that's because they're so far down the rabbit hole they're incapable of seeing past their own immediate world. For the most part people would discuss and likely find some common ground.

Social media outlets like this, while entertaining for discussion sometimes, have really made the polarization worse.

Yup - you would think it would free up discussion and debate, instead it has become a who can yell the loudest and put you down the most cockfight to drown out those you don't agree with.

Internet bullying is popular because there is no threat of physical confrontation. This freedom of expression is filtering out of the anonymous zone however. You get used to shooting your mouth off on the internets, and you feel emboldened to do it out in public because you are so used to saying whatever you want.

I am certainly not the toughest guy in the room, however I am physically imposing enough that many would not say to my face what many have said here (to me or others). It is the best and worst thing about social media. You can express yourself freely, but you can also express yourself without threat or fear of a beat down if you want to be aggressive about it.


I am fine with opposing views, I am not fine with smarmy and often belittling ways of presentation. "I think Trump is an A-Hole" is much different that "I think Trump is an A-Hole and you are a racist for backing him". I am probably going to knock you out if you say that to my face - but most would never say that to my face.

TigerGreen is good with me, we all take our shots and low blows at people, but you are generally respectful of the proper discourse.

I am willing to bet that most if not all of those on my ignore list would not take the tone they take on this board if we were sitting at the bar talking across the table at each other.

Thanks. And yes; if someone comes for me I'm certainly not going to back down, but I would always prefer to at least attempt to communicate on here like I would with someone in person. Of course it devolves from time to time.

There are some here who immediately default to the name calling & 'libtard' nonsense, but in general those are the ones who aren't contributing to any meaningful discussion anyway.

(02-23-2021 11:35 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 11:26 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 11:14 AM)DFWMINER Wrote:  I wonder if we would ignore people if we were all in the same room having a beer together? Would the discord be as strong?

Of course it wouldn't. There would be a small percentage of the people on here who would name call & shout at the rain as they do on here, but that's because they're so far down the rabbit hole they're incapable of seeing past their own immediate world. For the most part people would discuss and likely find some common ground.

Social media outlets like this, while entertaining for discussion sometimes, have really made the polarization worse.

Social media really has polarized society and exacerbated issues. It's also opened and entirely new avenue for bullying, especially Fakebook.

I agree, but would add the 24 hr news media as well. Those two together, IMO, is what has divided so many people. 24hr news networks have to fill time, and drive viewers (for $$) by filling the majority of that time with controversial topics. Been going on since 9/11. Social media allows people to create ideological silos that they never leave.

(02-23-2021 02:49 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 11:35 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 11:26 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 11:14 AM)DFWMINER Wrote:  I wonder if we would ignore people if we were all in the same room having a beer together? Would the discord be as strong?

Of course it wouldn't. There would be a small percentage of the people on here who would name call & shout at the rain as they do on here, but that's because they're so far down the rabbit hole they're incapable of seeing past their own immediate world. For the most part people would discuss and likely find some common ground.

Social media outlets like this, while entertaining for discussion sometimes, have really made the polarization worse.

Social media really has polarized society and exacerbated issues. It's also opened and entirely new avenue for bullying, especially Fakebook.

I agree, but would add the 24 hr news media as well. Those two together, IMO, is what has divided so many people. 24hr news networks have to fill time, and drive viewers (for $$) by filling the majority of that time with controversial topics. Been going on since 9/11. Social media allows people to create ideological silos that they never leave.

I'd argue that it started wayyyy before 9/11.

Once the Fairness Doctrine was done away with in 1987, you started getting Rush Limbaugh-types on the radio spouting their drivel, and 24 hour news stations started coming around at the same time (they wouldn't have been held to the FD anyway, but FCC had control of radio & broadcast TV).

Too bad we can't reinstate a 'fairness doctrine' on cable/satellite.

(02-23-2021 02:56 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 02:49 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 11:35 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 11:26 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 11:14 AM)DFWMINER Wrote:  I wonder if we would ignore people if we were all in the same room having a beer together? Would the discord be as strong?

Of course it wouldn't. There would be a small percentage of the people on here who would name call & shout at the rain as they do on here, but that's because they're so far down the rabbit hole they're incapable of seeing past their own immediate world. For the most part people would discuss and likely find some common ground.

Social media outlets like this, while entertaining for discussion sometimes, have really made the polarization worse.

Social media really has polarized society and exacerbated issues. It's also opened and entirely new avenue for bullying, especially Fakebook.

I agree, but would add the 24 hr news media as well. Those two together, IMO, is what has divided so many people. 24hr news networks have to fill time, and drive viewers (for $$) by filling the majority of that time with controversial topics. Been going on since 9/11. Social media allows people to create ideological silos that they never leave.

I'd argue that it started wayyyy before 9/11.

Once the Fairness Doctrine was done away with in 1987, you started getting Rush Limbaugh-types on the radio spouting their drivel, and 24 hour news stations started coming around at the same time (they wouldn't have been held to the FD anyway, but FCC had control of radio & broadcast TV).

Too bad we can't reinstate a 'fairness doctrine' on cable/satellite.

Ah, you are correct. I think CNN started in the early 1980s. I just remember it getting intolerable shortly after 9/11 with the constant scroll bar across the bottom of the screen.

Libs dont want the fairness doctrine. That would cripple MSNBC, CNN, and every major news media outlet in the country from the constant lies they promote as "news"

(02-23-2021 08:31 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 07:37 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 06:31 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(02-22-2021 10:05 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-22-2021 09:47 PM)450bench Wrote:  There are several libs here that I really like, such as swagsurfer11, uofmemphis and TigerGreen . Just because I disagree with them politically and have an occasional back and forth with, doesn’t mean I don’t like them.
Swag said something that stuck with me when he said “we don’t have to be at each other’s throats ALL the time.” And he’s right.

I like them too and try to pull back on them. It's just hard to sometimes, I'm kinda an ahole in here. I think helps me not be one in reality.

Pshhh, this place helps me hone my assholery to a nice shiny edge. I work at 201 Poplar, the Shelby County main jail, being an ass-hole is almost de rigueur.

201 is still open?

Dont worry, your grafitti pledge of love to your shower buddy is still there.

So you are there every few months to check on it huh?

(02-24-2021 08:21 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Libs dont want the fairness doctrine. That would cripple MSNBC, CNN, and every major news media outlet in the country from the constant lies they promote as "news"

(02-23-2021 11:14 AM)DFWMINER Wrote:  I wonder if we would ignore people if we were all in the same room having a beer together? Would the discord be as strong?

That's where I draw the line w/ non-conservatives. Don't care to be around them or socialize with them. Sit around, have a cold beer w/ my righty friends and family, laugh at the aggrieved leftists and make jokes at their expense? Sure. Willfully be around them? Nope.

(02-24-2021 08:32 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 11:14 AM)DFWMINER Wrote:  I wonder if we would ignore people if we were all in the same room having a beer together? Would the discord be as strong?

That's where I draw the line w/ non-conservatives. Don't care to be around them or socialize with them. Sit around, have a cold beer w/ my righty friends and family, laugh at the aggrieved leftists and make jokes at their expense? Sure. Willfully be around them? Nope.

there's not many blue dogs 'left', pal...

(02-23-2021 11:35 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 11:26 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 11:14 AM)DFWMINER Wrote:  I wonder if we would ignore people if we were all in the same room having a beer together? Would the discord be as strong?

Of course it wouldn't. There would be a small percentage of the people on here who would name call & shout at the rain as they do on here, but that's because they're so far down the rabbit hole they're incapable of seeing past their own immediate world. For the most part people would discuss and likely find some common ground.

Social media outlets like this, while entertaining for discussion sometimes, have really made the polarization worse.

Social media really has polarized society and exacerbated issues. It's also opened and entirely new avenue for bullying, especially Fakebook.

I've mentioned it a few times on here, but a few years ago I completely disconnected from social media and I haven't missed it at all. Unplugging was one of the best decisions I've made in a while. That stuff is a cancer on society.

(02-24-2021 08:32 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 11:14 AM)DFWMINER Wrote:  I wonder if we would ignore people if we were all in the same room having a beer together? Would the discord be as strong?

That's where I draw the line w/ non-conservatives. Don't care to be around them or socialize with them. Sit around, have a cold beer w/ my righty friends and family, laugh at the aggrieved leftists and make jokes at their expense? Sure. Willfully be around them? Nope.

This is me. I've cut them off, even some relatives. I used to get along with everyone, not anymore.

It's why when having garage beers on my property, politics and religion not allowed. I'd rather we ***** about our wives and tell tall tales about how we used to be. It's also NE Florida and we are a bit more interested in fishing and sports.

(02-23-2021 12:20 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

Quote:people on here who would name call & shout at the rain

And who started that? Libtards. Argue if you want. Most conservatives simply want to be left alone, to live their lives, to raise their children, to worship their God. I personally have never in my whole life been political until about a year ago. You asswipes forced this on me. You forced this on a lot of us. I hope you continue to be happy however that turns out.

You're being controlled by them and if shows in how angry you've become. You used to be a reasonable person to debate and carry on with. I see very little of that any longer.

(02-24-2021 09:15 AM)ArmyBlazer Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 11:35 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 11:26 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 11:14 AM)DFWMINER Wrote:  I wonder if we would ignore people if we were all in the same room having a beer together? Would the discord be as strong?

Of course it wouldn't. There would be a small percentage of the people on here who would name call & shout at the rain as they do on here, but that's because they're so far down the rabbit hole they're incapable of seeing past their own immediate world. For the most part people would discuss and likely find some common ground.

Social media outlets like this, while entertaining for discussion sometimes, have really made the polarization worse.

Social media really has polarized society and exacerbated issues. It's also opened and entirely new avenue for bullying, especially Fakebook.

I've mentioned it a few times on here, but a few years ago I completely disconnected from social media and I haven't missed it at all. Unplugging was one of the best decisions I've made in a while. That stuff is a cancer on society.

The only good thing about Fakebook, other than reminding me to wish some distant relative I forgot about a happy birthday, is to steal memes and repost them, which then gets me a ban for content I found right on their damn site.

(02-23-2021 02:56 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 02:49 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 11:35 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 11:26 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 11:14 AM)DFWMINER Wrote:  I wonder if we would ignore people if we were all in the same room having a beer together? Would the discord be as strong?

Of course it wouldn't. There would be a small percentage of the people on here who would name call & shout at the rain as they do on here, but that's because they're so far down the rabbit hole they're incapable of seeing past their own immediate world. For the most part people would discuss and likely find some common ground.

Social media outlets like this, while entertaining for discussion sometimes, have really made the polarization worse.

Social media really has polarized society and exacerbated issues. It's also opened and entirely new avenue for bullying, especially Fakebook.

I agree, but would add the 24 hr news media as well. Those two together, IMO, is what has divided so many people. 24hr news networks have to fill time, and drive viewers (for $$) by filling the majority of that time with controversial topics. Been going on since 9/11. Social media allows people to create ideological silos that they never leave.

I'd argue that it started wayyyy before 9/11.

Once the Fairness Doctrine was done away with in 1987, you started getting Rush Limbaugh-types on the radio spouting their drivel, and 24 hour news stations started coming around at the same time (they wouldn't have been held to the FD anyway, but FCC had control of radio & broadcast TV).

Too bad we can't reinstate a 'fairness doctrine' on cable/satellite.

Okay, so you mention Rush but failed to mentioned the dozens on your side. Even in sports (espn) you have them spewing conservative and Trump hatred. In the View, Jake, Humpty Dumpty, the husband and wife team, etc. etc. Yet, you only remembered Rush and talk about fairness. You're a joke and yes if I was in a bar with you I'd tell it to your face.

(02-24-2021 12:26 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 02:56 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 02:49 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 11:35 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 11:26 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  Of course it wouldn't. There would be a small percentage of the people on here who would name call & shout at the rain as they do on here, but that's because they're so far down the rabbit hole they're incapable of seeing past their own immediate world. For the most part people would discuss and likely find some common ground.

Social media outlets like this, while entertaining for discussion sometimes, have really made the polarization worse.

Social media really has polarized society and exacerbated issues. It's also opened and entirely new avenue for bullying, especially Fakebook.

I agree, but would add the 24 hr news media as well. Those two together, IMO, is what has divided so many people. 24hr news networks have to fill time, and drive viewers (for $$) by filling the majority of that time with controversial topics. Been going on since 9/11. Social media allows people to create ideological silos that they never leave.

I'd argue that it started wayyyy before 9/11.

Once the Fairness Doctrine was done away with in 1987, you started getting Rush Limbaugh-types on the radio spouting their drivel, and 24 hour news stations started coming around at the same time (they wouldn't have been held to the FD anyway, but FCC had control of radio & broadcast TV).

Too bad we can't reinstate a 'fairness doctrine' on cable/satellite.

Okay, so you mention Rush but failed to mentioned the dozens on your side. Even in sports (espn) you have them spewing conservative and Trump hatred. In the View, Jake, Humpty Dumpty, the husband and wife team, etc. etc. Yet, you only remembered Rush and talk about fairness. You're a joke and yes if I was in a bar with you I'd tell it to your face.

We were discussing when the "beginning" of it was, not the situation now, which obviously is a **** show, hence my statement "too bad we can't reinstate a fairness doctrine on cable/satellite." Rush was the first really polarizing political "talking head" character post-fairness doctrine. Repubs on this board gave him credit for as much in the thread about his death.

Before you start calling people a joke, how about you read the previous quoted posts as well so you can have a basic understanding of the conversation going on first.

(02-24-2021 08:21 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Libs dont want the fairness doctrine. That would cripple MSNBC, CNN, and every major news media outlet in the country from the constant lies they promote as "news"

It's not limited to one side - Fox and all of the lesser "media" types (Newsmax, OANN) that have come out now would be immediately crippled as well.

It's desperately needed, but money talks more now, so it'll never happen.

(02-24-2021 02:20 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-24-2021 12:26 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 02:56 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 02:49 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(02-23-2021 11:35 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  Social media really has polarized society and exacerbated issues. It's also opened and entirely new avenue for bullying, especially Fakebook.

I agree, but would add the 24 hr news media as well. Those two together, IMO, is what has divided so many people. 24hr news networks have to fill time, and drive viewers (for $$) by filling the majority of that time with controversial topics. Been going on since 9/11. Social media allows people to create ideological silos that they never leave.

I'd argue that it started wayyyy before 9/11.

Once the Fairness Doctrine was done away with in 1987, you started getting Rush Limbaugh-types on the radio spouting their drivel, and 24 hour news stations started coming around at the same time (they wouldn't have been held to the FD anyway, but FCC had control of radio & broadcast TV).

Too bad we can't reinstate a 'fairness doctrine' on cable/satellite.

Okay, so you mention Rush but failed to mentioned the dozens on your side. Even in sports (espn) you have them spewing conservative and Trump hatred. In the View, Jake, Humpty Dumpty, the husband and wife team, etc. etc. Yet, you only remembered Rush and talk about fairness. You're a joke and yes if I was in a bar with you I'd tell it to your face.

We were discussing when the "beginning" of it was, not the situation now, which obviously is a **** show, hence my statement "too bad we can't reinstate a fairness doctrine on cable/satellite." Rush was the first really polarizing political "talking head" character post-fairness doctrine. Repubs on this board gave him credit for as much in the thread about his death.

Before you start calling people a joke, how about you read the previous quoted posts as well so you can have a basic understanding of the conversation going on first.

Democrats have vilified Republicans as long as I remember. Nixon was hated almost as much as Trump. McGovernites viciously hated Republicans. The media blamed Nixon for LBJ's war that he was trying to end. Its one of the reasons I moved from Independent to Republican. The hatred from the left was off the chart. Now its many times that.

(02-24-2021 04:10 PM)bullet Wrote:  Democrats have vilified Republicans as long as I remember. Nixon was hated almost as much as Trump. McGovernites viciously hated Republicans. The media blamed Nixon for LBJ's war that he was trying to end. Its one of the reasons I moved from Independent to Republican. The hatred from the left was off the chart. Now its many times that.

The big difference is many of us hate them back now.

The more I hear from liberals, the more it makes me conservative.