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If everybody on scholarship now takes advantage of their extra year of eligibility are we done with recruiting. The signing of Walker and Speaker put us at 13. Or would the 3 seniors we have now just be bonus players if they come back. Coupet is a RS senior and I believe he had 3 years of eligibility left when he came here. He has played 2.
02-22-2021 11:28 AM
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(02-22-2021 11:28 AM)ez272 Wrote:  If everybody on scholarship now takes advantage of their extra year of eligibility are we done with recruiting. The signing of Walker and Speaker put us at 13. Or would the 3 seniors we have now just be bonus players if they come back. Coupet is a RS senior and I believe he had 3 years of eligibility left when he came here. He has played 2.

I don't know how all this will work, but I tend to doubt that our seniors will be back.
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(02-22-2021 12:17 PM)mjs Wrote:  
(02-22-2021 11:28 AM)ez272 Wrote:  If everybody on scholarship now takes advantage of their extra year of eligibility are we done with recruiting. The signing of Walker and Speaker put us at 13. Or would the 3 seniors we have now just be bonus players if they come back. Coupet is a RS senior and I believe he had 3 years of eligibility left when he came here. He has played 2.

I don't know how all this will work, but I tend to doubt that our seniors will be back.

Looks like you were right and we have three more scholarships to fill. The first day to sign is April 14.
03-01-2021 11:13 AM
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How do you know I was right? Did anyone announce anything or are you just going by they fact that they were honored on Senior Day? I don't think that necessarily means anything. This whole thing is a mess for coaches and high school seniors. I believe the returning seniors can be "additional" scholarships which is fine for big-time programs with money to spare. Having extra players on scholarship won't be that easy for our budget. However, this could help some mid-majors, the most, because when players stay 4 years (and now maybe 5) at big-time programs it is usually because they are not all that great. In other words, the good ones leave after 2 or 3 years (or they are one and dones).

Looking at our 3 seniors, I don't think it is likely that any of them will be back. No doubt Ruot and Ben could play in Europe. I doubt another year would make either an NBA prospect. Admir showed me enough, these last few games, that I wouldn't mind having him back. I still think it is most likely that he could find a place to play for money in Eastern Europe. I really have not interacted with any of these guys, so don't know if getting a "free" year of graduate school is something they would be interested in. I think that would be the only thing that would keep them here.
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I am not clear if seniors can choose to transfer and still get an "extra" year. If they can, that could be a way for us to rebuild quickly for next year. There are certainly seniors at some big-time schools, who could be major contributors at our level, but know they will be "replaced" by 4/5 star freshman if they stay where they are. While not currently elite programs, our best bets might be Georgetown and Memphis, where Darrell's friends are coaching. Another possibility might be senior, who is originally from Arkansas, but is playing out of State.

If the one time transfer rule passes, all hell will break loose, and there is no telling what our roster will look like next season. I think it will be terrible for midmajors as we will simply become farm teams for the big-time schools. On the other hand, we will likely be able to attract guys who are sitting on the bench at Power 5 schools. So schools like us would just have to "adapt". The days of finding a "diamond in the rough" who you develop into a great player are likely history. Will be interesting to see what Norchad Omier, at ASU, does because I believe he is clearly a big-time player.
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Yes, just going by senior day activities. I thought maybe Admir would come back. Who knows? Not me.
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Based on information (I would call it a rumor at this point), I got at the baseball game today, we will have plenty of spots to fill for next year. I got the impression we will have a lot more players leaving then staying. I apologize for not being able to be more specific then that. I guess the rumor doesn't surprise me as I think most of us believed their was a lot of discontent in the locker room. Still it is possible that a tournament championship could heal a lot of the unhappiness.

By the way, excellent baseball game today. Absolutely perfect weather and a 5-3 victory over UCA.
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(03-03-2021 08:32 PM)mjs Wrote:  Based on information (I would call it a rumor at this point), I got at the baseball game today, we will have plenty of spots to fill for next year. I got the impression we will have a lot more players leaving then staying. I apologize for not being able to be more specific then that. I guess the rumor doesn't surprise me as I think most of us believed their was a lot of discontent in the locker room. Still it is possible that a tournament championship could heal a lot of the unhappiness.

By the way, excellent baseball game today. Absolutely perfect weather and a 5-3 victory over UCA.


My only question about your rumor is why the source of the rumor would possibly tell the person who passed it along to you.
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(Yesterday 05:37 PM)since74 Wrote:  
(03-03-2021 08:32 PM)mjs Wrote:  Based on information (I would call it a rumor at this point), I got at the baseball game today, we will have plenty of spots to fill for next year. I got the impression we will have a lot more players leaving then staying. I apologize for not being able to be more specific then that. I guess the rumor doesn't surprise me as I think most of us believed their was a lot of discontent in the locker room. Still it is possible that a tournament championship could heal a lot of the unhappiness.

By the way, excellent baseball game today. Absolutely perfect weather and a 5-3 victory over UCA.


My only question about your rumor is why the source of the rumor would possibly tell the person who passed it along to you.

As you know, the original source is a good one. Why he would pass this information along, I don't know. My best guess would be that he had the sense that this information was already in the public domain.
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(Yesterday 06:06 PM)mjs Wrote:  
(Yesterday 05:37 PM)since74 Wrote:  
(03-03-2021 08:32 PM)mjs Wrote:  Based on information (I would call it a rumor at this point), I got at the baseball game today, we will have plenty of spots to fill for next year. I got the impression we will have a lot more players leaving then staying. I apologize for not being able to be more specific then that. I guess the rumor doesn't surprise me as I think most of us believed their was a lot of discontent in the locker room. Still it is possible that a tournament championship could heal a lot of the unhappiness.

By the way, excellent baseball game today. Absolutely perfect weather and a 5-3 victory over UCA.


My only question about your rumor is why the source of the rumor would possibly tell the person who passed it along to you.

As you know, the original source is a good one. Why he would pass this information along, I don't know. My best guess would be that he had the sense that this information was already in the public domain.

Did your source say the players are leaving on their own free will or because Coach wants their scholarships?
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No. But I have no reason to believe the coaching staff would want them to leave.
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I hear Admir has not decided yet what he will do, so he might be back. I would welcome him back. Why would the coaching staff want them to leave, because what we have right now can't compete for a title. And we have one scholarship player that has played in only 2 games in 2 years because of a foot injury.
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(Today 03:32 PM)ez272 Wrote:  I hear Admir has not decided yet what he will do, so he might be back. I would welcome him back. Why would the coaching staff want them to leave, because what we have right now can't compete for a title. And we have one scholarship player that has played in only 2 games in 2 years because of a foot injury.

I'd like Admir back based on what I have seen the past few games. I hope he wants to further his education- that is the main goal for many of the foreign athletes.
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