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RE: DOUBLE tourney byes go to.....
(03-01-2021 08:46 AM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  The title of this thread shorts things a lil bit now that we have the updated bracket. We are all playing for a DOUBLE BYE. The games this weekend are massive. Starting a tournament in the 3rd Round is huge.

Magic - fixed it for ya - thanks!
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(03-01-2021 09:44 AM)wsherdfan Wrote:  
(03-01-2021 08:27 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(03-01-2021 06:07 AM)wsherdfan Wrote:  
(02-28-2021 10:12 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(02-28-2021 09:28 PM)wsherdfan Wrote:  This from the Denton newspaper this morning:

“The Bulldogs are now atop the division standings that are based on winning percentage this year due to the fact that teams are playing a different number of games because of the coronavirus pandemic.”

OK - I think I finally have it! Based on winning percentage of total games played, here is how Marshall gets the 2nd bye in the East:
ODU loses both road games @WKU to finish 10-6.
10 / 16 = .625 win %
Marshall sweeps Charlotte in Huntington to finish 9-5.
9 / 14 = .642 win %
Herd edges Monarchs by .17 %

That’s right, assuming you don’t stumble against Charlotte

Absolutely, my Monarch friend!! We control our fate, something that became a death knell for our football team!! I am confident this group will not suffer a let down vs the Niners......Go Herd!!!

As far as getting a bye goes you actually need some help in the form of WKU sweeping ODU. So you don't control your fate in that regard.

muturn017 - about 1 min after I hit send I realized my error. You are correct, of course. Considering the Tops have lost a total of 1 conference game at home to date, I would not bet against them sweeping. Having said that (as we learned in our 1st game vs ODU Feb 5th: Don't count your chickens.....Double byes! Sounds even better....

A tall task to take a game at Diddle.
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(02-28-2021 05:18 PM)rileylives Wrote:  
(02-28-2021 05:06 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  So if Marshall wins out, we get a bye then?

No. We need ODU to lose 2x. If ODU beats WKU 2x we lose tiebreakers to WKU and ODU. Even if ODU beats Western once, we lose...

If ODU beats WKU 2x it would be

ODU 12-4
WKU 10-6
Marshall 9-5

If ODU and Western split it would be

WKU 11-5
ODU 11-5
Marshall 9-5

You're giving Western a couple extra losses there. The conclusion doesn't change but if they win today they'll go into next weekend at 10-2. So assuming Marshall sweeps:

If ODU beats WKU 2x it would be

ODU 12-4
WKU 10-4
Marshall 9-5

If ODU and Western split it would be

WKU 11-3
ODU 11-5
Marshall 9-5
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(03-01-2021 09:43 AM)HERDDDDD Wrote:  
(03-01-2021 08:46 AM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  The title of this thread shorts things a lil bit now that we have the updated bracket. We are all playing for a DOUBLE BYE. The games this weekend are massive. Starting a tournament in the 3rd Round is huge.
Does NT have to sweep UAB or just split?

UNT is 9-3 (0.75), UAB is 11-5 (0.69). So a split is all UNT needs. UAB prettymuch said bye to a conference tourney bye when they got crushed by UTSA on Saturday.
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How does the bracket look right now?
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(03-01-2021 10:10 AM)DogsWin1 Wrote:  
(03-01-2021 09:43 AM)HERDDDDD Wrote:  
(03-01-2021 08:46 AM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  The title of this thread shorts things a lil bit now that we have the updated bracket. We are all playing for a DOUBLE BYE. The games this weekend are massive. Starting a tournament in the 3rd Round is huge.
Does NT have to sweep UAB or just split?

UNT is 9-3 (0.75), UAB is 11-5 (0.69). So a split is all UNT needs. UAB pretty much said bye to a conference tourney bye when they got crushed by UTSA on Saturday.

UAB has to sweep UNT to get a bye. That would give UAB the 2 seed & Tech the 1 seed in the West.

UNT has to sweep UAB to get the 1 seed but gets the 2 seed with a split.
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(03-01-2021 10:11 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  How does the bracket look right now?

If it started today based on standings from CUSA website:
(CUSA didn't specify which Division corresponds to each color so I took a punt. The sides of the bracket could flip but that just changes game times, not match ups.)
[Image: 2020-21-MBB-Bracket.jpg]
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(03-01-2021 11:21 AM)GrogBDog Wrote:  
(03-01-2021 10:11 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  How does the bracket look right now?

If it started today based on standings from CUSA website:

[Image: 2020-21-MBB-Bracket.jpg]

That bracket actually gets me pretty jazzed. I like the format and I like having everybody there. We should do the divisions every year and do this cross division bracket.
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(03-01-2021 11:52 AM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  
(03-01-2021 11:21 AM)GrogBDog Wrote:  
(03-01-2021 10:11 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  How does the bracket look right now?

If it started today based on standings from CUSA website:

[Image: 2020-21-MBB-Bracket.jpg]

That bracket actually gets me pretty jazzed. I like the format and I like having everybody there. We should do the divisions every year and do this cross division bracket.

No to divisions, IDC about all 14 and double bye. This year it's looking like the top four would be two from the west and two from the east more than likely regardless. But if 3 of the 4 teams are from one side or the other it's not fair to split them and give worse team a bye.
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(03-01-2021 11:21 AM)GrogBDog Wrote:  
(03-01-2021 10:11 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  How does the bracket look right now?

If it started today based on standings from CUSA website:

[Image: 2020-21-MBB-Bracket.jpg]

GrogBDog - can you post the link differently? I can't get it to work.....
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(03-01-2021 12:35 PM)wsherdfan Wrote:  
(03-01-2021 11:21 AM)GrogBDog Wrote:  
(03-01-2021 10:11 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  How does the bracket look right now?

If it started today based on standings from CUSA website:

[Image: 2020-21-MBB-Bracket.jpg]

GrogBDog - can you post the link differently? I can't get it to work.....

Hope this works for you https://postimg.cc/XZV1TLgs
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Do you know for certain the first round games on Tuesday are 6 vs 7 in the same division? I'd rather go against FIU than USM (and I think it's more fair to set it up that way).
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(03-01-2021 01:23 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Do you know for certain the first round games on Tuesday are 6 vs 7 in the same division? I'd rather go against FIU than USM (and I think it's more fair to set it up that way).

That is what is on the CUSA website.

https://conferenceusa.com/sports/2021/2/...ath=mbball
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(03-01-2021 01:10 PM)GrogBDog Wrote:  
(03-01-2021 12:35 PM)wsherdfan Wrote:  
(03-01-2021 11:21 AM)GrogBDog Wrote:  
(03-01-2021 10:11 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  How does the bracket look right now?

If it started today based on standings from CUSA website:

[Image: 2020-21-MBB-Bracket.jpg]

GrogBDog - can you post the link differently? I can't get it to work.....

Hope this works for you https://postimg.cc/XZV1TLgs

It did. TY
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(03-01-2021 01:37 PM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  
(03-01-2021 01:23 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  Do you know for certain the first round games on Tuesday are 6 vs 7 in the same division? I'd rather go against FIU than USM (and I think it's more fair to set it up that way).

That is what is on the CUSA website.

https://conferenceusa.com/sports/2021/2/...ath=mbball

Makes sense. Those are kind of like play in games for the bottom 2 of each division. That ensures the western 3 seed plays an eastern tema in their first game and vice versa.
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I think WKU is the clear front runner with NT/LT on their trail. I’m unsure who the better team is between those 2. Marshall or ODU can most definitely knock anyone off but I don’t think they can win it all.
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(03-01-2021 01:54 PM)HERDDDDD Wrote:  I think WKU is the clear front runner with NT/LT on their trail. I’m unsure who the better team is between those 2. Marshall or ODU can most definitely knock anyone off but I don’t think they can win it all.

Yeah I don’t think so, Tech beat WKU by 5 and lost to WKU by 2 in Bowling Green. Plus Tech is ranked higher in RPI and NET than WKU.
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Watch out for FAU. They have only played ten conference games and if they sweep MT will come in on a four game win streak. They could upset someone in the conf. tourney.
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(03-01-2021 04:33 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Watch out for FAU. They have only played ten conference games and if they sweep MT will come in on a four game win streak. They could upset someone in the conf. tourney.

FAU plays very physical. They have a good blend of size and athleticism. Like so many teams in CUSA, if the 3 ball is falling, they can probably beat any other team in CUSA.
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(03-01-2021 10:40 AM)GrogBDog Wrote:  
(03-01-2021 10:10 AM)DogsWin1 Wrote:  
(03-01-2021 09:43 AM)HERDDDDD Wrote:  
(03-01-2021 08:46 AM)Magic95Fan Wrote:  The title of this thread shorts things a lil bit now that we have the updated bracket. We are all playing for a DOUBLE BYE. The games this weekend are massive. Starting a tournament in the 3rd Round is huge.
Does NT have to sweep UAB or just split?

UNT is 9-3 (0.75), UAB is 11-5 (0.69). So a split is all UNT needs. UAB pretty much said bye to a conference tourney bye when they got crushed by UTSA on Saturday.

UAB has to sweep UNT to get a bye. That would give UAB the 2 seed & Tech the 1 seed in the West.

UNT has to sweep UAB to get the 1 seed but gets the 2 seed with a split.

Over the last two season, LA Tech is the only program in C-USA that has beaten North Texas in Denton. Not saying UAB can't pick up a win this weekend, but pulling a sweep in Denton is probably a long shot.
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