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Devout Biden vs Abortion
How can anyone say they are a devout Catholic and support abortion?
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(02-20-2021 02:13 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  How can anyone say they are a devout Catholic and support abortion?

Libs can SAY anything they want. They can twist words and meanings and outright lie even when everyone knows they're lying. They don't care. There are no consequences. No one stands up to them. They care about money and power, they don't care about anything else. Not God, not children, not our flag or our history or our heritage, and certainly not the unwashed masses that people like us are. We are merely collateral damage in the end.
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(02-20-2021 02:13 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  How can anyone say they are a devout Catholic and support abortion?

Because they are cafeteria catholics like I was before I read the Bible. How many times have you heard a catholic say that they don't listen to the Popes edicts? They aren't even aware of what the cathechism says about not following his edicts. They only think of themselves and anything that conflicts with their beliefs or wants they just shrug them off. I have very close relatives that are supposedly devout catholics (even watching masses on tv) that are okay with abortions because in their mind it's better than the child suffering in an adoption agency. That's what they tell me.

No one bothered to ask the fetuses what they thought of being in adoption agencies.
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RE: Devout Biden vs Abortion
What will Biden and the Supreme Court do with South Carolina’s law requiring abortion clinics to not act if a fetus’s heartbeat is detected?
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(02-20-2021 02:26 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  
(02-20-2021 02:13 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  How can anyone say they are a devout Catholic and support abortion?

Because they are cafeteria catholics like I was before I read the Bible. How many times have you heard a catholic say that they don't listen to the Popes edicts? They aren't even aware of what the cathechism says about not following his edicts. They only think of themselves and anything that conflicts with their beliefs or wants they just shrug them off. I have very close relatives that are supposedly devout catholics (even watching masses on tv) that are okay with abortions because in their mind it's better than the child suffering in an adoption agency. That's what they tell me.

No one bothered to ask the fetuses what they thought of being in adoption agencies.



Hug a tree, kill a baby

As I have posted before, Jesus suggests in Revelation 3 that half the worlds churchgoers (both Catholic and Protestant) are not even saved when the AC comes on the scene at the end.

Christ says He will vomit them out of His mouth.
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(02-20-2021 02:45 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(02-20-2021 02:26 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  
(02-20-2021 02:13 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  How can anyone say they are a devout Catholic and support abortion?

Because they are cafeteria catholics like I was before I read the Bible. How many times have you heard a catholic say that they don't listen to the Popes edicts? They aren't even aware of what the cathechism says about not following his edicts. They only think of themselves and anything that conflicts with their beliefs or wants they just shrug them off. I have very close relatives that are supposedly devout catholics (even watching masses on tv) that are okay with abortions because in their mind it's better than the child suffering in an adoption agency. That's what they tell me.

No one bothered to ask the fetuses what they thought of being in adoption agencies.



Hug a tree, kill a baby

As I have posted before, Jesus suggests in Revelation 3 that half the worlds churchgoers (both Catholic and Protestant) are not even saved when the AC comes on the scene at the end.

Christ says He will vomit them out of His mouth.
What does the term “devout” mean?
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Totally committed to a cause or belief...as per Siri.

As per Jesus' words, not Lukewarm.
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Trump passed the GOP primary religion screening so anything is possible.
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(02-20-2021 04:33 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  Trump passed the GOP primary religion screening so anything is possible.

Nah. Thats not how it works Chester. I'm not inclined to explain it.
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Biden? A hypocrite? Who knew?
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(02-20-2021 02:13 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  How can anyone say they are a devout Catholic and support abortion?

He is as devout of a Catholic as Michael Corleone and as well connected to organized crime. He'll buy absolution from a socialist Pope!
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(02-20-2021 02:13 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  How can anyone say they are a devout Catholic and support abortion?

He can't, but then again he's a politician so when has he ever told the truth? He's as much a devout Catholic as my dog is.
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Most Catholics I know are VERY liberal. Look at their damn pope for example.

They care more about what the government tells them to think & virtue signaling then anything Christ actually calls his followers to do.

Of course 'devout' Biden supports abortion, it's one of the many liberal things Catholics think Christ would support or do. You're not gonna turn any Catholic away from the Left by saying Biden supports abortion, that's all the more reason a Catholic would support Biden.
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The president is president of the United States, not the catholic church...or any church for that matter.
Abortion is legal in the United States.
The majority of America still wants abortion to be legal and for women to have that choice.
Biden is a guy...he can't have an abortion.

Has Biden ever counseled anyone to have an abortion?

What exactly do you want Biden to do to stop abortions? Does laws against murder stop murder?

Abortion is a societal issue. All we can do is seek to educate those to the alternatives. Contraception, etc. before pregnancy...and adoption or keeping the baby afterward.

As a Christian, I support a women's right to choose because it's the law and I don't have any right to force my religious beliefs on anyone else. That being said, as a guy, I can't have an abortion...and I would never counsel any female to have one unless it was to save her life, or in the cases of incest, rape, or a fetus that was not viable. It's a decision that needs left to the mother, her physician, and her religion. Not mine.
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(02-22-2021 02:14 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  Most Catholics I know are VERY liberal. Look at their damn pope for example.

They care more about what the government tells them to think & virtue signaling then anything Christ actually calls his followers to do.



Roman Catholicism in general is one of the most liberal denominations in Christianity. Its also the largest by a mile. Of course there are some very conservative Catholics, but most are extremely liberal in their faith and practice of it.

Too many of them are not even Christians and do not even know what salvation is. They think simply being a Catholic saves them, much like Jews used to think simply being a Jew saved them.

Both the OT and NT strongly rebuke this belief but most of them have no interest in the Bible either.
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(02-22-2021 02:19 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  The president is president of the United States, not the catholic church...or any church for that matter.
Abortion is legal in the United States.
The majority of America still wants abortion to be legal and for women to have that choice.
Biden is a guy...he can't have an abortion.

Has Biden ever counseled anyone to have an abortion?

What exactly do you want Biden to do to stop abortions? Does laws against murder stop murder?

Abortion is a societal issue. All we can do is seek to educate those to the alternatives. Contraception, etc. before pregnancy...and adoption or keeping the baby afterward.

As a Christian, I support a women's right to choose because it's the law and I don't have any right to force my religious beliefs on anyone else. That being said, as a guy, I can't have an abortion...and I would never counsel any female to have one unless it was to save her life, or in the cases of incest, rape, or a fetus that was not viable. It's a decision that needs left to the mother, her physician, and her religion. Not mine.
Unfortunately, I agree w/ the Bolded. We need to work on changing people's hearts & as a result, over time we'll be able to chip away at the law. One of the reasons I think the Dems were screaming the sky was falling when it came to what Trump, or any Republican, could actually do when it came to limiting abortion (yet you seemed silent then on that point then)

I have a lot to say on your final paragraph, but I'll just leave it at the part I agree w/ you.
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(02-20-2021 04:44 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(02-20-2021 02:13 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  How can anyone say they are a devout Catholic and support abortion?

He is as devout of a Catholic as Michael Corleone and as well connected to organized crime. He'll buy absolution from a socialist Pope!

Isn't Michael Corleone a fictional character? 03-wink
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(02-22-2021 02:22 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(02-22-2021 02:14 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  Most Catholics I know are VERY liberal. Look at their damn pope for example.

They care more about what the government tells them to think & virtue signaling then anything Christ actually calls his followers to do.



Roman Catholicism in general is one of the most liberal denominations in Christianity. Its also the largest by a mile. Of course there are some very conservative Catholics, but most are extremely liberal in their faith and practice of it.

Too many of them are not even Christians and do not even know what salvation is. They think simply being a Catholic saves them, much like Jews used to think simply being a Jew saved them.

Both the OT and NT strongly rebukes this belief but most of them have no interest in the Bible either.
Definitely. I feel like I could be a member of most Protestant beliefs, but Catholicism (& Catholics themselves as a whole) irk me so much.
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(02-22-2021 02:14 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  Most Catholics I know are VERY liberal. Look at their damn pope for example.

That has less to do with it than understanding that just because you may not agree with a particular topic based on religious beliefs, that doesn't mean that as the leader of a country that is neither Catholic nor Christian, you get to prevent others from choices that you wouldn't necessarily make.
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(02-22-2021 02:27 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  
(02-22-2021 02:14 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  Most Catholics I know are VERY liberal. Look at their damn pope for example.

That has less to do with it than understanding that just because you may not agree with a particular topic based on religious beliefs, that doesn't mean that as the leader of a country that is neither Catholic nor Christian, you get to prevent others from choices that you wouldn't necessarily make.

That's the whole point in a nutshell.

President Biden is not a Catholic.
Catholic Joe Biden is not the President.

The two need to be separated...as the founders intended.
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