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RE: Extinction of the human race?
(02-22-2021 12:25 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(02-21-2021 10:08 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Doesn't seem to be happening in places where there are more hungry people than obese people.

Men who lose testosterone tend to gain weight. And high fructose corn syrup doesn't register too much sugar intake in the brain the way cane sugar does. So that high fructose corn syrup soda in plastic bottles and presto you get fat dweebs likely to become diabetic and have problems reproducing.

Darwin would be proud!

It doesn't help that fewer people exercise and stay in shape now. Sitting on your flabby @ss chowing down on McD's exacerbates the problem.
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RE: Extinction of the human race?
(02-22-2021 01:39 PM)No2rdame Wrote:  
(02-22-2021 12:25 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(02-21-2021 10:08 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Doesn't seem to be happening in places where there are more hungry people than obese people.

Men who lose testosterone tend to gain weight. And high fructose corn syrup doesn't register too much sugar intake in the brain the way cane sugar does. So that high fructose corn syrup soda in plastic bottles and presto you get fat dweebs likely to become diabetic and have problems reproducing.

Darwin would be proud!

It doesn't help that fewer people exercise and stay in shape now. Sitting on your flabby @ss chowing down on McD's exacerbates the problem.

Ha! You've given me a brilliant insight as to how to revitalize the flagging fast food industry. Put Total T into the beverages and lace each 1/4 pounder for guys (a distinction must be made with McV (Viagra). And voila now you have fat dweebs who can reproduce without having to diet and exercise and stay away from plastic food containers! I'd like 2 McV's all the way, with a T-shake please!

The stock just shot up!
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RE: Extinction of the human race?
Lol, but how are they gonna attract the women when they're all too fat and lazy to reproduce?
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RE: Extinction of the human race?
(02-22-2021 12:25 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(02-21-2021 10:08 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Doesn't seem to be happening in places where there are more hungry people than obese people.

Men who lose testosterone tend to gain weight. And high fructose corn syrup doesn't register too much sugar intake in the brain the way cane sugar does. So that high fructose corn syrup soda in plastic bottles and presto you get fat dweebs likely to become diabetic and have problems reproducing.

Darwin would be proud!

But, do we WANT them to reproduce? That is the question.
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(02-22-2021 01:46 PM)No2rdame Wrote:  Lol, but how are they gonna attract the women when they're all too fat and lazy to reproduce?

They hook up online with a female dweeb who eats McE's (Estrogen) and who has had her ova harvested for test tube reproduction. They can have virtual sex and let the lab do the rest. It would be just!
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(02-22-2021 01:46 PM)No2rdame Wrote:  Lol, but how are they gonna attract the women when they're all too fat and lazy to reproduce?

Uh... Money. Are you from this planet?
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RE: Extinction of the human race?
(02-22-2021 12:25 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(02-21-2021 10:08 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Doesn't seem to be happening in places where there are more hungry people than obese people.

Men who lose testosterone tend to gain weight. And high fructose corn syrup doesn't register too much sugar intake in the brain the way cane sugar does. So that high fructose corn syrup soda in plastic bottles and presto you get fat dweebs likely to become diabetic and have problems reproducing.

Darwin would be proud!

Sugar is sugar. Its the same chemical whether it comes from sugar cane, corn or beets.
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RE: Extinction of the human race?
(02-22-2021 03:16 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(02-22-2021 12:25 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(02-21-2021 10:08 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Doesn't seem to be happening in places where there are more hungry people than obese people.

Men who lose testosterone tend to gain weight. And high fructose corn syrup doesn't register too much sugar intake in the brain the way cane sugar does. So that high fructose corn syrup soda in plastic bottles and presto you get fat dweebs likely to become diabetic and have problems reproducing.

Darwin would be proud!

Sugar is sugar. Its the same chemical whether it comes from sugar cane, corn or beets.

Or honey, etc. So, this is true for the most part. The molecular structures however may vary and there are some that the neuro-receptors in the frontal lobe recognize and some they don't. If they don't then they don't signal he brain to tell it woah! And like with other foreign substances the neuro receptors of other trace elements may be altered by the body to receive them, and while that kills your natural desire for that particular receptor to be stimulated, it may still not signal your body when you've had enough. This is the same way alcohol and drug addition work on the brain. If they create a craving that cannot be sated you are addicted.

When I was young I kept grass tennis courts (3 of them) up at the country club. One of my perks was getting to play on them. On a long hot Saturday in July I could probably drink two Cokes for the day. It was all my body would accept before I felt full. I could drink all of the water I needed. The thing is those drinks were made with cane sugar. High fructose corn syrup is sugar, but the brain doesn't recognize the amount you consume because the structure of the sugar is different from that of cane sugar. The soft drink manufacturers knew this when they switched to it. It's why they now sell the super sized drinks at fast food places that's almost a liter, some larger, when in your and my childhood what passes for a small today was the large back then. Nobody would have consumed that much with cane sugar as the sweetener.

So both are just as fattening, but one triggers your body to say enough and the other doesn't.

Now while I'm not a food researcher or a molecular engineer, I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express more than once or twice, so obviously I'm qualified. Maybe someone else wants to chime in, but I had a guy who worked for RC as a chemist tell me all about this stuff. If he was correct, and what I've related is accurate, it's really rather maddening. The original claim for the switch was that cane sugar was costing too much. But in reality consumption took off with the change.

Now the addiction information relating to neuro receptors was part of education while at Emory. They have treatments based on this where they take fingernail and hair follicles to determine which trace elements you are missing in your diet. So when addicts are tested these will likely be the neuro receptors that have been altered. Then by bombarding the brain with those very trace elements (in non toxic doses of course) they can begin to switch those receptors back to their original task. Doing this lessens the severity of withdrawal pains and assists with the detox programs that help to break addictions. Sadly it doesn't help much for heroine or it's substitutes. But, it does help with nicotine, alcohol, and other forms of substance abuse.
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RE: Extinction of the human race?
(02-22-2021 03:16 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(02-22-2021 12:25 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(02-21-2021 10:08 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Doesn't seem to be happening in places where there are more hungry people than obese people.

Men who lose testosterone tend to gain weight. And high fructose corn syrup doesn't register too much sugar intake in the brain the way cane sugar does. So that high fructose corn syrup soda in plastic bottles and presto you get fat dweebs likely to become diabetic and have problems reproducing.

Darwin would be proud!

Sugar is sugar. Its the same chemical whether it comes from sugar cane, corn or beets.

You are correct that there's no meaningful difference between sucrose and HFCS. Whether or not the glucose and fructose are pre-hydrolyzed before you eat it doesn't matter.

The problem is sugar seems to be added to darn-near everything other than meat and produce these days and the cheapness of HFCS has made that possible.
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"The problem is sugar seems to be added to darn-near everything other than meat and produce these days and the cheapness of HFCS has made that possible."

But boy, it sure does taste good when it's added to barbeque. Yummy.
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(02-22-2021 05:50 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  "The problem is sugar seems to be added to darn-near everything other than meat and produce these days and the cheapness of HFCS has made that possible."

But boy, it sure does taste good when it's added to barbeque. Yummy.

You can achieve the same thing in barbecue with erythritol.

I make a diabetic friendly barbecue injection, rub, and sauce that tastes just as good as the regular.
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(02-22-2021 04:25 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(02-22-2021 03:16 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(02-22-2021 12:25 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(02-21-2021 10:08 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Doesn't seem to be happening in places where there are more hungry people than obese people.

Men who lose testosterone tend to gain weight. And high fructose corn syrup doesn't register too much sugar intake in the brain the way cane sugar does. So that high fructose corn syrup soda in plastic bottles and presto you get fat dweebs likely to become diabetic and have problems reproducing.

Darwin would be proud!

Sugar is sugar. Its the same chemical whether it comes from sugar cane, corn or beets.

You are correct that there's no meaningful difference between sucrose and HFCS. Whether or not the glucose and fructose are pre-hydrolyzed before you eat it doesn't matter.

The problem is sugar seems to be added to darn-near everything other than meat and produce these days and the cheapness of HFCS has made that possible.

I checked, the molecular structure is different and that affects neuro receptors. The ratio of glucose and fructose is similar but not identical. Brain chemistry is fairly specific. And that minute difference is an issue with regard to consumption. The caloric values and digestion are similar, but the structure is not he same.
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