UNI and SDSU game is dull, at best

I don't know if it is because it is the first week, but UNI looks the same - good defense, no offense.

(02-19-2021 10:04 PM)AssyrianDuke Wrote:  I don't know if it is because it is the first week, but UNI looks the same - good defense, no offense.

Hard to be definitive but neither look good

(02-19-2021 03:59 PM)JMaddy Wrote:  

(02-19-2021 02:52 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(02-19-2021 12:41 PM)JMaddy Wrote:  

(02-19-2021 12:01 PM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  

(02-19-2021 11:46 AM)Potomac Wrote:  Not necessarily. I'd say the loser is on the bubble the rest of the season and has to win out, could maybe afford to drop one more. If there's any conference getting 3 bids, it's the valley. NDSU, UNI and SDSU are 1, 2 and 3.

The winner is sitting pretty for 2nd place. The loser can only drop one more, maybe no more depending on the national field. 3 MVFC losses is guaranteed no playoffs for a team other than NDSU. NDSU would probably need to drop 4 to guarantee no playoffs.

All three play each other so unless they all have 1 loss I cant see all three making the playoffs

MVC will get three teams with a small chance at 4, so it is very much possible they all make it, in fact there is a chance you have two of them with 1 loss and two teams (we'll just add say Ill State) with 2 losses. Or more likely NDSU runs the table and there are three teams at 2 losses.

The CAA could end up with 4 teams with 1 loss (let's for arguments sake say we drop one to Elon, and then Nova and Albany both only lose once).

There are some potentially wild scenarios out there. If MVC has 4 teams with 2 or less losses and we have 4 teams with 1 loss there is a chance we both get 4 teams or a chance that we (JMU) get left out.

No one is going to get an At Large with 3 conference losses...And the chance of 4 of MVFC teams with 2 or less losses, is close to zero (unless they don't play a bunch of games, which a whole nother can of worms). The last 9 seasons (since NDSU began their run), the # of times they've had 4 teams with 2 or less conference losses is ZERO. 5 years they had 2 teams, 3 years they had 3 teams, and 1 year they had just NDSU.

Its not like the Big Sky last season, where you had 13 teams, so each only played 8 of the other 12, or 2 divisions like the CAA with jacked up scheduling. With 10 teams playing, all the MVFC will be playing 8 of the other 9.

And a 1 loss JMU isn't going to get left out of the playoffs when there are 6 At Large available..

I didn't say it is likely that they will have four 2 loss teams but it is possible:

NDSU - Lose to SDSU; beats UNI & ISU; runs table against rest of league
SDSU - Lose to UNI; beats NDSU & ISU; runs table against rest of league
UNI - Lose to ISU and NDSU; beats SDSU; runs table against rest of league
ISU - Lose to NDSU and SDSU; beats UNI; runs table against rest of league

As for CAA and JMU if we have four teams with 1 loss (e.g. JMU, Elon, Nova, Albany) Which looks better Elon's win over us or ours over them? Both of our OOC schedules are trash so if there was a SOS comparison we'd lose that head to head because they play us twice which bumps theirs up more. Our hope would be then that the comittee likes our 8 game schedules more than the 6 games the northern CAA plays, but there is really only maybe one complete cake walk for those teams vs at least four maybe six on our side. It would also require the MVC to have four teams with 2 losses or less for us to be left out of the playoffs (otherwise we likely get all four teams in much to the chagrin of FCS nation) but in the realm of what is possible...it is certainly possible a 1 loss JMU is sitting out the playoffs no matter how small the odds.

If there’s a giant earthquake, and portions of Bridgeforth stadium collapse, JMU won’t gave any home games.. Then what?

Final SDSU 24, UNI 20.
Pretty impressive for SDSU to win on the road with their 3rd string QB..

(02-19-2021 10:53 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(02-19-2021 03:59 PM)JMaddy Wrote:  

(02-19-2021 02:52 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(02-19-2021 12:41 PM)JMaddy Wrote:  

(02-19-2021 12:01 PM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  All three play each other so unless they all have 1 loss I cant see all three making the playoffs

MVC will get three teams with a small chance at 4, so it is very much possible they all make it, in fact there is a chance you have two of them with 1 loss and two teams (we'll just add say Ill State) with 2 losses. Or more likely NDSU runs the table and there are three teams at 2 losses.

The CAA could end up with 4 teams with 1 loss (let's for arguments sake say we drop one to Elon, and then Nova and Albany both only lose once).

There are some potentially wild scenarios out there. If MVC has 4 teams with 2 or less losses and we have 4 teams with 1 loss there is a chance we both get 4 teams or a chance that we (JMU) get left out.

No one is going to get an At Large with 3 conference losses...And the chance of 4 of MVFC teams with 2 or less losses, is close to zero (unless they don't play a bunch of games, which a whole nother can of worms). The last 9 seasons (since NDSU began their run), the # of times they've had 4 teams with 2 or less conference losses is ZERO. 5 years they had 2 teams, 3 years they had 3 teams, and 1 year they had just NDSU.

Its not like the Big Sky last season, where you had 13 teams, so each only played 8 of the other 12, or 2 divisions like the CAA with jacked up scheduling. With 10 teams playing, all the MVFC will be playing 8 of the other 9.

And a 1 loss JMU isn't going to get left out of the playoffs when there are 6 At Large available..

I didn't say it is likely that they will have four 2 loss teams but it is possible:

NDSU - Lose to SDSU; beats UNI & ISU; runs table against rest of league
SDSU - Lose to UNI; beats NDSU & ISU; runs table against rest of league
UNI - Lose to ISU and NDSU; beats SDSU; runs table against rest of league
ISU - Lose to NDSU and SDSU; beats UNI; runs table against rest of league

As for CAA and JMU if we have four teams with 1 loss (e.g. JMU, Elon, Nova, Albany) Which looks better Elon's win over us or ours over them? Both of our OOC schedules are trash so if there was a SOS comparison we'd lose that head to head because they play us twice which bumps theirs up more. Our hope would be then that the comittee likes our 8 game schedules more than the 6 games the northern CAA plays, but there is really only maybe one complete cake walk for those teams vs at least four maybe six on our side. It would also require the MVC to have four teams with 2 losses or less for us to be left out of the playoffs (otherwise we likely get all four teams in much to the chagrin of FCS nation) but in the realm of what is possible...it is certainly possible a 1 loss JMU is sitting out the playoffs no matter how small the odds.

If there’s a giant earthquake, and portions of Bridgeforth stadium collapse, JMU won’t gave any home games.. Then what?

Become the first team to win 11/12 road games in NCAA history.

(02-19-2021 11:44 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  Final SDSU 24, UNI 20.
Pretty impressive for SDSU to win on the road with their 3rd string QB..

It was an exciting finish to an otherwise boring game. Northern Iowa looks like they have the same crappy offense that got shutout by JMU last year. It was hard to watch.

Same 'ol anemic offense for UNI. Same thing year after year. Wonder if their defense even likes the offensive players?!

(02-20-2021 12:04 AM)olddawg Wrote:  Same 'ol anemic offense for UNI. Same thing year after year. Wonder if their defense even likes the offensive players?!

Well, its not due to a small OL. I took a screen shot of the listed sizes of those big ol midwestern corn fed boys. From left to right, their starting OL:
6'7"/321
6'6"/338
6'6"/320
6'6"/309
6'5"/300

That averages to about 6'6"/318..

Spreads, FWIW:
https://odds.5dimes.mobi/Football/College/

Nichols State 87, Lincoln 3.

(02-20-2021 12:36 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  Nichols State 87, Lincoln 3.

Even John Wilkes Booth didn’t murder Lincoln that bad.

(02-20-2021 12:14 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(02-20-2021 12:04 AM)olddawg Wrote:  Same 'ol anemic offense for UNI. Same thing year after year. Wonder if their defense even likes the offensive players?!

Well, its not due to a small OL. I took a screen shot of the listed sizes of those big ol midwestern corn fed boys. From left to right, their starting OL:
6'7"/321
6'6"/338
6'6"/320
6'6"/309
6'5"/300

That averages to about 6'6"/318..

Quite beefy (and tall). Didn't see the game, but box score shows them only rushing for 28 yards on 25 carries. You'd think they would do better.

(02-20-2021 09:35 AM)olddawg Wrote:  

(02-20-2021 12:14 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(02-20-2021 12:04 AM)olddawg Wrote:  Same 'ol anemic offense for UNI. Same thing year after year. Wonder if their defense even likes the offensive players?!

Well, its not due to a small OL. I took a screen shot of the listed sizes of those big ol midwestern corn fed boys. From left to right, their starting OL:
6'7"/321
6'6"/338
6'6"/320
6'6"/309
6'5"/300

That averages to about 6'6"/318..

Quite beefy (and tall). Didn't see the game, but box score shows them only rushing for 28 yards on 25 carries. You'd think they would do better.

As piss poor as that was, they somehow still put up 20 on vaunted SDSU. I doubt they would get past our 50. Once again the second tier of the MVC below NDSU is highly overrated and would get curb stomped if they were in the CAA.

I watched most of the game. Northern Iowa was absolutely awful on offense. Don’t let the 20 points fool you. They manages 193 yards for the game and were given a couple of short fields on SDSU fumbles including one inside the red zone.

If the Dukes see UNI again this year in the playoffs it will be a much easier win than SDSU who should get stronger if they get some starters back from injury.

SDSU is basically the only team that gives NDSU any contest in the MVC most years. Likely true again, and likely the same if we face any of those teams.

Davidson 20, Elon 18, early 3rd qtr.

Davidson same non scholly Pioneer Conference as Morehead.
As already mentioned in another thread, Elon’s 3 yr starting QB Davis Cheek out for the winter/spring season.

North Dakota stomping Southern Illinois 37-14 near the end of the 3rd. The other team in North Dakota kicks off tomorrow at 330

(02-20-2021 03:20 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  Davidson 20, Elon 18, early 3rd qtr.

Davidson same non scholly Pioneer Conference as Morehead.
As already mentioned in another thread, Elon’s 3 yr starting QB Davis Cheek out for the winter/spring season.

Oh, geesh! If Elon manages to lose this game makes our SOS look absolutely horrible.

Davidson good on FG

Now up 5, 5 mins left in 3rd.


Eeeeeesh