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In other words, let whitey die.
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(02-16-2021 10:39 AM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Yes, because the "Breaking 911" twitter handle is SUCH a trusted "news" source.

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It's Canada. That should be satisfied by afternoon beer break
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If true, it's about as expected when you have a limp wristed sissy like Trudeau running the show and pandering to every far left group out there. It sounds an awful like something a particular kiddie sniffer here in the US would do as well.
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Best part is, on here, a bunch of white dudes are proclaiming they won't get the China vaccine and are now pissed that in Canada, minorities and radicalized (not RADICALized) communities will be in a particular phase and actually want the vaccine.
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(02-16-2021 10:55 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  If true, it's about as expected when you have a limp wristed sissy like Trudeau running the show and pandering to every far left group out there. It sounds an awful like something a particular kiddie sniffer here in the US would do as well.

Or, to a certain extent it makes sense if the goal is the vaccinate those "who are more likely to get the Covid."

Regardless of anything, it would seem, the goal is to vaccinate 1) those most likely to suffer consequences from getting covid (fat and old) 2) those who work in situations likely to get it because of constant interaction with people (increasing the chance of getting the Rona like 1st responders/frontline folks), and 3) those in population groups who get it at a higher rate and have worse outcomes.
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(02-16-2021 11:01 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(02-16-2021 10:55 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  If true, it's about as expected when you have a limp wristed sissy like Trudeau running the show and pandering to every far left group out there. It sounds an awful like something a particular kiddie sniffer here in the US would do as well.

Or, to a certain extent it makes sense if the goal is the vaccinate those "who are more likely to get the Covid."

Regardless of anything, it would seem, the goal is to vaccinate 1) those most likely to suffer consequences from getting covid (fat and old) 2) those who work in situations likely to get it because of constant interaction with people (increasing the chance of getting the Rona like 1st responders/frontline folks), and 3) those in population groups who get it at a higher rate and have worse outcomes.

And none of your scenarios addressed the rationale of putting minorities to the front of the line, did it? They just looked at skin color. They simply used the terms "radicalized and marginalized" to make it sound less racist.
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The tiering criteria across the board has been a clustereff.

Adding in race to the failed tiered approach is extra level stoooopid

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(02-16-2021 11:02 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  
(02-16-2021 11:01 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(02-16-2021 10:55 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  If true, it's about as expected when you have a limp wristed sissy like Trudeau running the show and pandering to every far left group out there. It sounds an awful like something a particular kiddie sniffer here in the US would do as well.

Or, to a certain extent it makes sense if the goal is the vaccinate those "who are more likely to get the Covid."

Regardless of anything, it would seem, the goal is to vaccinate 1) those most likely to suffer consequences from getting covid (fat and old) 2) those who work in situations likely to get it because of constant interaction with people (increasing the chance of getting the Rona like 1st responders/frontline folks), and 3) those in population groups who get it at a higher rate and have worse outcomes.

And none of your scenarios addressed the rationale of putting minorities to the front of the line, did it? They just looked at skin color. They simply used the terms "radicalized and marginalized" to make it sound less racist.

Again, it's "racialized" not "RADICALized".

And yes, the scenario is there. Apparently minorities are getting the Rona at higher rates (mostly because they, factually, have more lower wage jobs that require them to physically go into work, not as may "virtual" jobs) and statistically are dying more per population.

So, ideally, if one wants to 1)stop the SPREAD and 2) decrease deaths, you immunize groups who are 1) more likely to get it and 2)more likely to die.

I, frankly, thought that 22-30 year olds should be higher on the list only because they are the biggest group in terms of GETTING the rona. Although, they aren't suffering negative effects, for the most part. But, if one slows the spread by immunizing the primary spreaders, that would seem smart.
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(02-16-2021 11:17 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(02-16-2021 11:02 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  
(02-16-2021 11:01 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(02-16-2021 10:55 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  If true, it's about as expected when you have a limp wristed sissy like Trudeau running the show and pandering to every far left group out there. It sounds an awful like something a particular kiddie sniffer here in the US would do as well.

Or, to a certain extent it makes sense if the goal is the vaccinate those "who are more likely to get the Covid."

Regardless of anything, it would seem, the goal is to vaccinate 1) those most likely to suffer consequences from getting covid (fat and old) 2) those who work in situations likely to get it because of constant interaction with people (increasing the chance of getting the Rona like 1st responders/frontline folks), and 3) those in population groups who get it at a higher rate and have worse outcomes.

And none of your scenarios addressed the rationale of putting minorities to the front of the line, did it? They just looked at skin color. They simply used the terms "radicalized and marginalized" to make it sound less racist.

Again, it's "racialized" not "RADICALized".

And yes, the scenario is there. Apparently minorities are getting the Rona at higher rates (mostly because they, factually, have more lower wage jobs that require them to physically go into work, not as may "virtual" jobs) and statistically are dying more per population.

So, ideally, if one wants to 1)stop the SPREAD and 2) decrease deaths, you immunize groups who are 1) more likely to get it and 2)more likely to die.

I, frankly, thought that 22-30 year olds should be higher on the list only because they are the biggest group in terms of GETTING the rona. Although, they aren't suffering negative effects, for the most part. But, if one slows the spread by immunizing the primary spreaders, that would seem smart.
Your reason for minorities getting the virus at a higher rate is not "mostly", it is one of the reasons but not "mostly".


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(02-16-2021 10:58 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Best part is, on here, a bunch of white dudes are proclaiming they won't get the China vaccine and are now pissed that in Canada, minorities and radicalized (not RADICALized) communities will be in a particular phase and actually want the vaccine.


I’m not planning on getting the vaccine (it really isn’t a vaccine like we’ve always known them).....and I don’t live in Canada, so I have no skin in the game. For those with physical ailments that put them in high risk categories, it’s extremely discriminatory.

What is hypocritical, and what frosts people is the blatant discrimination that is now government sanctioned. Just as it was wrong 70 years ago, it’s wrong today and there’s no lipstick that can be put on that pig to make it look good.
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(02-16-2021 11:23 AM)maximus Wrote:  
(02-16-2021 11:17 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(02-16-2021 11:02 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  
(02-16-2021 11:01 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(02-16-2021 10:55 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  If true, it's about as expected when you have a limp wristed sissy like Trudeau running the show and pandering to every far left group out there. It sounds an awful like something a particular kiddie sniffer here in the US would do as well.

Or, to a certain extent it makes sense if the goal is the vaccinate those "who are more likely to get the Covid."

Regardless of anything, it would seem, the goal is to vaccinate 1) those most likely to suffer consequences from getting covid (fat and old) 2) those who work in situations likely to get it because of constant interaction with people (increasing the chance of getting the Rona like 1st responders/frontline folks), and 3) those in population groups who get it at a higher rate and have worse outcomes.

And none of your scenarios addressed the rationale of putting minorities to the front of the line, did it? They just looked at skin color. They simply used the terms "radicalized and marginalized" to make it sound less racist.

Again, it's "racialized" not "RADICALized".

And yes, the scenario is there. Apparently minorities are getting the Rona at higher rates (mostly because they, factually, have more lower wage jobs that require them to physically go into work, not as may "virtual" jobs) and statistically are dying more per population.

So, ideally, if one wants to 1)stop the SPREAD and 2) decrease deaths, you immunize groups who are 1) more likely to get it and 2)more likely to die.

I, frankly, thought that 22-30 year olds should be higher on the list only because they are the biggest group in terms of GETTING the rona. Although, they aren't suffering negative effects, for the most part. But, if one slows the spread by immunizing the primary spreaders, that would seem smart.
Your reason for minorities getting the virus at a higher rate is not "mostly", it is one of the reasons but not "mostly".


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Sure. More likely to live in large multigenerational households. Perhaps more likely not to social distance among their community.

In any even, the point remains--vaccinate 1) the people who are spreading and 2) the people who are dying.

If middle-upper class white folks are being responsible and not spreading and not suffering adverse outcomes from the rona, it seems counterproductive to put them in the same priority list as people who are getting it, spreading it, and dying.

Unless we are just going straight Darwin.
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(02-16-2021 11:34 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(02-16-2021 11:23 AM)maximus Wrote:  
(02-16-2021 11:17 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(02-16-2021 11:02 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  
(02-16-2021 11:01 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Or, to a certain extent it makes sense if the goal is the vaccinate those "who are more likely to get the Covid."

Regardless of anything, it would seem, the goal is to vaccinate 1) those most likely to suffer consequences from getting covid (fat and old) 2) those who work in situations likely to get it because of constant interaction with people (increasing the chance of getting the Rona like 1st responders/frontline folks), and 3) those in population groups who get it at a higher rate and have worse outcomes.

And none of your scenarios addressed the rationale of putting minorities to the front of the line, did it? They just looked at skin color. They simply used the terms "radicalized and marginalized" to make it sound less racist.

Again, it's "racialized" not "RADICALized".

And yes, the scenario is there. Apparently minorities are getting the Rona at higher rates (mostly because they, factually, have more lower wage jobs that require them to physically go into work, not as may "virtual" jobs) and statistically are dying more per population.

So, ideally, if one wants to 1)stop the SPREAD and 2) decrease deaths, you immunize groups who are 1) more likely to get it and 2)more likely to die.

I, frankly, thought that 22-30 year olds should be higher on the list only because they are the biggest group in terms of GETTING the rona. Although, they aren't suffering negative effects, for the most part. But, if one slows the spread by immunizing the primary spreaders, that would seem smart.
Your reason for minorities getting the virus at a higher rate is not "mostly", it is one of the reasons but not "mostly".


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Sure. More likely to live in large multigenerational households. Perhaps more likely not to social distance among their community.

In any even, the point remains--vaccinate 1) the people who are spreading and 2) the people who are dying.

If middle-upper class white folks are being responsible and not spreading and not suffering adverse outcomes from the rona, it seems counterproductive to put them in the same priority list as people who are getting it, spreading it, and dying.

Unless we are just going straight Darwin.
Again, the tiered roll out has been a debacle.

Leave it to the CDC to inject more confusion into basic health care delivery.

The roll out should have been...

Over 60 -- come and get it if you want it

Month later -- everyone else come and get it if you want it.

The end

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(02-16-2021 10:52 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Yes, because the "Breaking 911" twitter handle is SUCH a trusted "news" source.

Sheep.

Is the Canadian government website credible enough for you?

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/s...cines.html

Look who is bah'ing now.
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On topic here, I found this gem a while back from some schmuck doctor at Mayo Clinic

"Racism may also play a role in health risks. The stress of dealing with racial discrimination can take a toll on your body, causing early aging. This has been linked to underlying conditions, which can increase the risk of severe illness with COVID-19."

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-cond...q-20488802

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(02-16-2021 10:58 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Best part is, on here, a bunch of white dudes are proclaiming they won't get the China vaccine and are now pissed that in Canada, minorities and radicalized (not RADICALized) communities will be in a particular phase and actually want the vaccine.

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(02-16-2021 11:47 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(02-16-2021 10:52 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Yes, because the "Breaking 911" twitter handle is SUCH a trusted "news" source.

Sheep.

Is the Canadian government website credible enough for you?

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/s...cines.html

Look who is bah'ing now.

Not much worse than a dumb person that thinks they are clever. He can graph it for you.

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(02-16-2021 11:47 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(02-16-2021 10:52 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Yes, because the "Breaking 911" twitter handle is SUCH a trusted "news" source.

Sheep.

Is the Canadian government website credible enough for you?

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/s...cines.html

Look who is bah'ing now.

Radicalized? Right?

And it's LITERALLY not prioritizing race over age. Age is stage 1.

I would imagine, since you are a computer dude, you are likely to be a "numbers" guy.

It seems perfectly reasonable to vaccinate those who are getting it more or who may have difficulty "getting out" to get the vaccine.

That's why we are being "ageist" and seeking out old folks over younger folks. Clearly discriminating by age. Plus we note that the old folks in the nursing homes just can't jump in their Buick Rivieras and drive to get vaccinated, so the gov't is going TO them.

Initially, it appeared the Canadian guidelines we meant to go seek out the Inuit and other groups that are out there. I guess they added other groups based on lack of access or those getting it/transmitting it/dying from it at a higher rate.

Oh the horror.
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(02-16-2021 12:02 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(02-16-2021 11:47 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(02-16-2021 10:52 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Yes, because the "Breaking 911" twitter handle is SUCH a trusted "news" source.

Sheep.

Is the Canadian government website credible enough for you?

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/s...cines.html

Look who is bah'ing now.

Not much worse than a dumb person that thinks they are clever. He can graph it for you.

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You should get the vaccine so you don't infect your cousin-wife.
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