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(04-07-2021 06:41 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(04-07-2021 05:51 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Damon Stoudemire and Luke Walton as candidates make sense. It definitely fits the strong recent trend of hiring NBA alums with many schools (Ewing, Hardaway, Howard, Woodson, etc.).

Luke is an NBA head coach. Not sure he would leave that.

He makes $6 million/year in Sacramento, and he has two years remaining on his contract after this season. If he walked away right now he would be leaving about $14 million on the table. Arizona boosters, who supported Miller and mostly didn't want him fired, aren't going to pay Walton twice what Miller made, which is what it would take to match that Sacramento salary.

Best guess is it will be Stoudamire or Lloyd, unless both turn it down. If UA ends up hiring someone like Jason Terry or Miles Simon, it will be because the top choices shied away from the possibility of major sanctions.
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(04-07-2021 12:51 PM)esayem Wrote:  Maybe Swag gets his wish and Arizona hires Pastner away.

I really really like the idea of Arizona sending the GTAA a big bag of money to peel off Pastner and leave the rest of the staff and players intact.
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I hope they have to pay him in full
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(04-09-2021 02:06 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

Who does Cincinnati go after?

Nick Van Exel, Frank Martin, Dennis Gates, Archie Miller or, gulp, Sean Miller???
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something to keep in back of mind for December...

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(04-09-2021 02:46 PM)stever20 Wrote:  something to keep in back of mind for December...


Well, that's not good. Cincinnati has had a great stretch of ADs for awhile (Bohn, Babcock, Thomas, Goin).
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We’ll see how valid those claims are. Brannen’s attorney is the source and he has been going scorched earth on social media for the past week or so.
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Archie Miller if I had to guess
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(04-09-2021 02:45 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  
(04-09-2021 02:06 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

Who does Cincinnati go after?

Nick Van Exel, Frank Martin, Dennis Gates, Archie Miller or, gulp, Sean Miller???

Van Exel no. Apparently Frank Martin was interested two years ago but UC said no. I would be shocked if it was Sean Miller.

One interesting name is Bryce Drew, think he was really interested in it when Cronin left but he was fresh of the 0-18 SEC season and the firing from Vandy. But he did a good job at GCU, and has shown the ability to land top recruits.

I’d guess Archie Miller ends up being the guy, but I think Gates, Drew, Darren Savino, and Erik Martin (played at UC from 91-93 with Van Exel and has been on Huggins’s staff for the last ten-fifteen years) will all be considered.
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As a fan of of both Cincinnati and Vanderbilt ... I'm not sure Bryce Drew is a good choice. I do feel he got a bit of an unfair deal at VU. He seems like an upbeat coach who can sell recruits on his NBA experience and his relationship to Scott and Homer Drew. He had strong success at Valparaiso and has a positive karma. But ... again, not feeling the desire to have him at UC.

I would be fine with Archie Miller.
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(04-07-2021 10:05 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(04-07-2021 06:41 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(04-07-2021 05:51 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Damon Stoudemire and Luke Walton as candidates make sense. It definitely fits the strong recent trend of hiring NBA alums with many schools (Ewing, Hardaway, Howard, Woodson, etc.).

Luke is an NBA head coach. Not sure he would leave that.

He makes $6 million/year in Sacramento, and he has two years remaining on his contract after this season. If he walked away right now he would be leaving about $14 million on the table. Arizona boosters, who supported Miller and mostly didn't want him fired, aren't going to pay Walton twice what Miller made, which is what it would take to match that Sacramento salary.

Best guess is it will be Stoudamire or Lloyd, unless both turn it down. If UA ends up hiring someone like Jason Terry or Miles Simon, it will be because the top choices shied away from the possibility of major sanctions.
Luke Walton taking an NCAA job without any NCAA experience in the last decade is why Luke shouldn't take the gig. Recruiting and retaining your players is a mess now and those without even recrutiing experience is not good. Luke doesn't have that current recruiting expereince which Juwan had from the parent's perspective.


(04-09-2021 02:45 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  
(04-09-2021 02:06 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

Who does Cincinnati go after?

Nick Van Exel, Frank Martin, Dennis Gates, Archie Miller or, gulp, Sean Miller???
Well, Frank Martin got two more years, so he's likely out. However, his buyout has been reduced.
https://www.wyff4.com/article/frank-mart.../36077843#

(04-09-2021 09:20 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  As a fan of of both Cincinnati and Vanderbilt ... I'm not sure Bryce Drew is a good choice. I do feel he got a bit of an unfair deal at VU. He seems like an upbeat coach who can sell recruits on his NBA experience and his relationship to Scott and Homer Drew. He had strong success at Valparaiso and has a positive karma. But ... again, not feeling the desire to have him at UC.

I would be fine with Archie Miller.
I also think Archie is a top choice, but I would not be shocked if this is the spot for John Beilein.
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(04-09-2021 09:31 PM)Renandpat Wrote:  
(04-07-2021 10:05 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(04-07-2021 06:41 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(04-07-2021 05:51 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Damon Stoudemire and Luke Walton as candidates make sense. It definitely fits the strong recent trend of hiring NBA alums with many schools (Ewing, Hardaway, Howard, Woodson, etc.).

Luke is an NBA head coach. Not sure he would leave that.

He makes $6 million/year in Sacramento, and he has two years remaining on his contract after this season. If he walked away right now he would be leaving about $14 million on the table. Arizona boosters, who supported Miller and mostly didn't want him fired, aren't going to pay Walton twice what Miller made, which is what it would take to match that Sacramento salary.

Best guess is it will be Stoudamire or Lloyd, unless both turn it down. If UA ends up hiring someone like Jason Terry or Miles Simon, it will be because the top choices shied away from the possibility of major sanctions.
Luke Walton taking an NCAA job without any NCAA experience in the last decade is why Luke shouldn't take the gig. Recruiting and retaining your players is a mess now and those without even recrutiing experience is not good. Luke doesn't have that current recruiting expereince which Juwan had from the parent's perspective.

Juwan Howard had zero college coaching experience before taking over Michigan.
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(04-09-2021 09:31 PM)Renandpat Wrote:  
(04-07-2021 10:05 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(04-07-2021 06:41 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(04-07-2021 05:51 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Damon Stoudemire and Luke Walton as candidates make sense. It definitely fits the strong recent trend of hiring NBA alums with many schools (Ewing, Hardaway, Howard, Woodson, etc.).

Luke is an NBA head coach. Not sure he would leave that.

He makes $6 million/year in Sacramento, and he has two years remaining on his contract after this season. If he walked away right now he would be leaving about $14 million on the table. Arizona boosters, who supported Miller and mostly didn't want him fired, aren't going to pay Walton twice what Miller made, which is what it would take to match that Sacramento salary.

Best guess is it will be Stoudamire or Lloyd, unless both turn it down. If UA ends up hiring someone like Jason Terry or Miles Simon, it will be because the top choices shied away from the possibility of major sanctions.
Luke Walton taking an NCAA job without any NCAA experience in the last decade is why Luke shouldn't take the gig. Recruiting and retaining your players is a mess now and those without even recrutiing experience is not good. Luke doesn't have that current recruiting expereince which Juwan had from the parent's perspective.


(04-09-2021 02:45 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  
(04-09-2021 02:06 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

Who does Cincinnati go after?

Nick Van Exel, Frank Martin, Dennis Gates, Archie Miller or, gulp, Sean Miller???
Well, Frank Martin got two more years, so he's likely out. However, his buyout has been reduced.
https://www.wyff4.com/article/frank-mart.../36077843#

(04-09-2021 09:20 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  As a fan of of both Cincinnati and Vanderbilt ... I'm not sure Bryce Drew is a good choice. I do feel he got a bit of an unfair deal at VU. He seems like an upbeat coach who can sell recruits on his NBA experience and his relationship to Scott and Homer Drew. He had strong success at Valparaiso and has a positive karma. But ... again, not feeling the desire to have him at UC.

I would be fine with Archie Miller.
I also think Archie is a top choice, but I would not be shocked if this is the spot for John Beilein.


Beilein would be a very interesting hire. But do you think he would be interested?
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(04-10-2021 08:01 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(04-09-2021 09:31 PM)Renandpat Wrote:  
(04-07-2021 10:05 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(04-07-2021 06:41 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(04-07-2021 05:51 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Damon Stoudemire and Luke Walton as candidates make sense. It definitely fits the strong recent trend of hiring NBA alums with many schools (Ewing, Hardaway, Howard, Woodson, etc.).

Luke is an NBA head coach. Not sure he would leave that.

He makes $6 million/year in Sacramento, and he has two years remaining on his contract after this season. If he walked away right now he would be leaving about $14 million on the table. Arizona boosters, who supported Miller and mostly didn't want him fired, aren't going to pay Walton twice what Miller made, which is what it would take to match that Sacramento salary.

Best guess is it will be Stoudamire or Lloyd, unless both turn it down. If UA ends up hiring someone like Jason Terry or Miles Simon, it will be because the top choices shied away from the possibility of major sanctions.
Luke Walton taking an NCAA job without any NCAA experience in the last decade is why Luke shouldn't take the gig. Recruiting and retaining your players is a mess now and those without even recrutiing experience is not good. Luke doesn't have that current recruiting expereince which Juwan had from the parent's perspective.


(04-09-2021 02:45 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  
(04-09-2021 02:06 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

Who does Cincinnati go after?

Nick Van Exel, Frank Martin, Dennis Gates, Archie Miller or, gulp, Sean Miller???
Well, Frank Martin got two more years, so he's likely out. However, his buyout has been reduced.
https://www.wyff4.com/article/frank-mart.../36077843#

(04-09-2021 09:20 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  As a fan of of both Cincinnati and Vanderbilt ... I'm not sure Bryce Drew is a good choice. I do feel he got a bit of an unfair deal at VU. He seems like an upbeat coach who can sell recruits on his NBA experience and his relationship to Scott and Homer Drew. He had strong success at Valparaiso and has a positive karma. But ... again, not feeling the desire to have him at UC.

I would be fine with Archie Miller.
I also think Archie is a top choice, but I would not be shocked if this is the spot for John Beilein.


Beilein would be a very interesting hire. But do you think he would be interested?

No
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(04-10-2021 07:54 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  
(04-09-2021 09:31 PM)Renandpat Wrote:  
(04-07-2021 10:05 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(04-07-2021 06:41 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(04-07-2021 05:51 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Damon Stoudemire and Luke Walton as candidates make sense. It definitely fits the strong recent trend of hiring NBA alums with many schools (Ewing, Hardaway, Howard, Woodson, etc.).

Luke is an NBA head coach. Not sure he would leave that.

He makes $6 million/year in Sacramento, and he has two years remaining on his contract after this season. If he walked away right now he would be leaving about $14 million on the table. Arizona boosters, who supported Miller and mostly didn't want him fired, aren't going to pay Walton twice what Miller made, which is what it would take to match that Sacramento salary.

Best guess is it will be Stoudamire or Lloyd, unless both turn it down. If UA ends up hiring someone like Jason Terry or Miles Simon, it will be because the top choices shied away from the possibility of major sanctions.
Luke Walton taking an NCAA job without any NCAA experience in the last decade is why Luke shouldn't take the gig. Recruiting and retaining your players is a mess now and those without even recrutiing experience is not good. Luke doesn't have that current recruiting expereince which Juwan had from the parent's perspective.

Juwan Howard had zero college coaching experience before taking over Michigan.

...with an assistant that recruited Jamir Nelson and Delonte West to St. Joe’s.
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(04-10-2021 09:57 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(04-10-2021 08:01 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  
(04-09-2021 09:31 PM)Renandpat Wrote:  
(04-07-2021 10:05 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(04-07-2021 06:41 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Luke is an NBA head coach. Not sure he would leave that.

He makes $6 million/year in Sacramento, and he has two years remaining on his contract after this season. If he walked away right now he would be leaving about $14 million on the table. Arizona boosters, who supported Miller and mostly didn't want him fired, aren't going to pay Walton twice what Miller made, which is what it would take to match that Sacramento salary.

Best guess is it will be Stoudamire or Lloyd, unless both turn it down. If UA ends up hiring someone like Jason Terry or Miles Simon, it will be because the top choices shied away from the possibility of major sanctions.
Luke Walton taking an NCAA job without any NCAA experience in the last decade is why Luke shouldn't take the gig. Recruiting and retaining your players is a mess now and those without even recrutiing experience is not good. Luke doesn't have that current recruiting expereince which Juwan had from the parent's perspective.


(04-09-2021 02:45 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  
(04-09-2021 02:06 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

Who does Cincinnati go after?

Nick Van Exel, Frank Martin, Dennis Gates, Archie Miller or, gulp, Sean Miller???
Well, Frank Martin got two more years, so he's likely out. However, his buyout has been reduced.
https://www.wyff4.com/article/frank-mart.../36077843#

(04-09-2021 09:20 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  As a fan of of both Cincinnati and Vanderbilt ... I'm not sure Bryce Drew is a good choice. I do feel he got a bit of an unfair deal at VU. He seems like an upbeat coach who can sell recruits on his NBA experience and his relationship to Scott and Homer Drew. He had strong success at Valparaiso and has a positive karma. But ... again, not feeling the desire to have him at UC.

I would be fine with Archie Miller.
I also think Archie is a top choice, but I would not be shocked if this is the spot for John Beilein.


Beilein would be a very interesting hire. But do you think he would be interested?

No


I tend to agree.
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(04-10-2021 07:54 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  
(04-09-2021 09:31 PM)Renandpat Wrote:  
(04-07-2021 10:05 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(04-07-2021 06:41 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(04-07-2021 05:51 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Damon Stoudemire and Luke Walton as candidates make sense. It definitely fits the strong recent trend of hiring NBA alums with many schools (Ewing, Hardaway, Howard, Woodson, etc.).

Luke is an NBA head coach. Not sure he would leave that.

He makes $6 million/year in Sacramento, and he has two years remaining on his contract after this season. If he walked away right now he would be leaving about $14 million on the table. Arizona boosters, who supported Miller and mostly didn't want him fired, aren't going to pay Walton twice what Miller made, which is what it would take to match that Sacramento salary.

Best guess is it will be Stoudamire or Lloyd, unless both turn it down. If UA ends up hiring someone like Jason Terry or Miles Simon, it will be because the top choices shied away from the possibility of major sanctions.
Luke Walton taking an NCAA job without any NCAA experience in the last decade is why Luke shouldn't take the gig. Recruiting and retaining your players is a mess now and those without even recrutiing experience is not good. Luke doesn't have that current recruiting expereince which Juwan had from the parent's perspective.

Juwan Howard had zero college coaching experience before taking over Michigan.

However he did have experience on the other side of the sport as a parent within the grassroots circuit and recruiting which I previously mentioned. Luke's children are adolescents.
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(04-07-2021 01:35 PM)Wedge Wrote:  The timing of this move suggests that Arizona wants to hire Gonzaga assistant Tommy Lloyd.

Meet Tommy Lloyd: Mark Few’s Chief Lieutenant and an Immeasurable Key to Gonzaga's Success

If they were going to fire Miller, they should have had a good idea as to who the next coach would be and not take too long to decide. They just lost a four star recruit from Southern California, K.J. Simpson, and another from Seattle is reconsidering. The players are not happy that Miller is gone. Simpson is likely headed to UCLA. Arizona needs to make a decision quickly. They just went through this in football after they fired Kevin Sumlin and that did not go to well.
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