Hispanics, at least in the South, tend to be very patriotic. They join the armed forces in disproportionate numbers. Article wonders whether the Democrats identity politics is pushing them to the Republicans.

"...Latinos in South Florida and the Rio Grande Valley in southern Texas showed similar swings toward Trump, who gained 23 percentage points in Miami-Dade County and flipped Zapata County, Texas, for the first time since the 19th century....


The culture wars certainly loom large. Perez argues that Democrats face a challenge since they are "so often embarrassed by America's more 'uncouth' elements," while there is a "jovial Latino Americanism" evident in campaign rallies that combine mostly spoken Spanish with "all-American, good-times Nascar vibes." Latinos, he adds, "see themselves not as Latinx, or even Latinos, but as Americans." If he's right, then betting the house on identity politics will prove costly...."


https://reason.com/2021/02/14/the-future...h-a-thing/

You can't forever please every aggrieved minority or fringe group. Sometimes their interests conflict.

(02-14-2021 03:58 PM)BatonRougeEscapee Wrote:  You can't forever please every aggrieved minority or fringe group. Sometimes their interests conflict.

See feminists v transgender

A lot of hispanics fled from socialism and communism. Probably a reason why they vote against it here.

(02-14-2021 05:11 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  A lot of hispanics fled from socialism and communism. Probably a reason why they vote against it here.

I have no data to back it up but they seem to be religious, hard working and value traditional families.

The are conservative.

They will vote GOP faster than Irish, Italian, Polish Catholics did.

(02-14-2021 05:11 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  A lot of hispanics fled from socialism and communism. Probably a reason why they vote against it here.

The people mentioned in the article have Mexican ancestry.

(02-14-2021 05:22 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(02-14-2021 05:11 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  A lot of hispanics fled from socialism and communism. Probably a reason why they vote against it here.

The people mentioned in the article have Mexican ancestry.

Had a conversation with a legal immigrant from Panama. Talk about being pissed at illegals. Lol. Dude was going off about having to go through all the citizenship stuff and paying taxes and then watching illegals get a free ride. He isn't a Democrat

Latinos have very deep family roots the progressive libtard demoncrat vision has no place for a strong family unit so I could see Latino's becoming very Republican leaning.

It should be a GOP strategy to do everything possible to bring on board this important demographic. Their base values are in tune with conservatives. A reasonable immigration policy and DACA might also need to be considered in such a strategy.

Peter Zeihan has said this for 6 years

The Hispanic community is not a monolith. Heck, the political leaning vary between Mexicans, Cubans, Puerto Rican’s and South and Central Americans. With my family being Puerto Rican, we have extremes on both sides of the political isle, but for the most part the family is very pro military, pro religion and traditional values. Going back to my great grandfather, we have four generations of military service.

(02-14-2021 05:15 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-14-2021 05:11 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  A lot of hispanics fled from socialism and communism. Probably a reason why they vote against it here.

I have no data to back it up but they seem to be religious, hard working and value traditional families.

The are conservative.

You are absolutely right. Fundamentally they are conservative except when it comes to party lines. Like I've said a quadrillion times in El Paso even though they are catholic and many of the ideas of the Demoncraptic Party conflict with their religion they still are brainwashed into voting for them. It's not that they are dumb it's that they have had that mindset for decades and as brainwashing goes it is something that they don't want to let go and the media keeps giving them the false narratives that they swallow wholehardedly. I think they think that they are being unAmerican by voting for (as some see it) the Rich Peoples Party even though it's the Demons who tax them unceasingly, not to forget issues that even the Pope is against. The trouble there also is that the majority are buffet catholics. I know it because I was one of them for many years. I used to root everytime someone converted to catholicism not now.

(02-14-2021 09:35 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(02-14-2021 05:15 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-14-2021 05:11 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  A lot of hispanics fled from socialism and communism. Probably a reason why they vote against it here.

I have no data to back it up but they seem to be religious, hard working and value traditional families.

The are conservative.

You are absolutely right. Fundamentally they are conservative except when it comes to party lines. Like I've said a quadrillion times in El Paso even though they are catholic and many of the ideas of the Demoncraptic Party conflict with their religion they still are brainwashed into voting for them. It's not that they are dumb it's that they have had that mindset for decades and as brainwashing goes it is something that they don't want to let go and the media keeps giving them the false narratives that they swallow wholehardedly. I think they think that they are being unAmerican by voting for (as some see it) the Rich Peoples Party even though it's the Demons who tax them unceasingly, not to forget issues that even the Pope is against. The trouble there also is that the majority are buffet catholics. I know it because I was one of them for many years. I used to root everytime someone converted to catholicism not now.

Ollie is the best guy here to understand this stuff. Keep posting.

Thanks Fly, that's because I lived it before and still see it today. Many of those I talk about are family, friends and neighbors. You can't get any closer than that.

It's not just turning Hispanics red - they are one of many that are noticing that the DNC platform doesn't help them.

Black Americans are by and large slowly understanding that they are being had at every level, and continue to slowly but surely explore new options. You already see some members of the greater community quietly bringing up some very right-of-center opinions. That used to be unheard of.

Asian Americans are already 51/49 Republican - and that should surprise absolutely no one.

LGB (just talking about those "OG" three) actually out-earn straight people - I kid you not. As society slowly blends them in, they'll continue to defect and vote as closet Trump/conservative voters that put their economic security first. They didn't gentrify those neighborhoods only to have their galleries and coffee houses taxed to bankruptcy!

(02-14-2021 05:15 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-14-2021 05:11 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  A lot of hispanics fled from socialism and communism. Probably a reason why they vote against it here.

I have no data to back it up but they seem to be religious, hard working and value traditional families.

The are conservative.

Yes Shere and there is one other important distinction, machismo. Work around Mexican men, or most Hispanic males, and what you find is they are guys. They aren't effeminate, not college homogenized soy cucks, not computer geeks, not the kind of band boy that gets wedgies at school, and they are definitely serious about being a guy, getting their work done, and going home to their families. They tend to at least be marginally religious and you can't BS them because they know how tough things are.

In short these aren't men dominated by matriarchies. So they sure as hell aren't your Dem poster boys. In fact they couldn't be further from mainline Demwits. They are unashamedly male, believe in God, have nuclear families, know what hard work is, and are generally fleeing socialism, and don't identify with the cult of black victimization.

Rotsa Ruck Beta O' Reilly!

(02-14-2021 10:19 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  It's not just turning Hispanics red - they are one of many that are noticing that the DNC platform doesn't help them.

Black Americans are by and large slowly understanding that they are being had at every level, and continue to slowly but surely explore new options. You already see some members of the greater community quietly bringing up some very right-of-center opinions. That used to be unheard of.

Asian Americans are already 51/49 Republican - and that should surprise absolutely no one.

LGB (just talking about those "OG" three) actually out-earn straight people - I kid you not. As society slowly blends them in, they'll continue to defect and vote as closet Trump/conservative voters that put their economic security first. They didn't gentrify those neighborhoods only to have their galleries and coffee houses taxed to bankruptcy!

One of the vendors I work with is gay. His business partner is straight. The gay guy is Libertarian-Right, fiscally conservative, free market and small government minded. He frequently clashes with what he describes as his “bleeding heart” business partner who thinks there are government solutions for everything.

(02-14-2021 09:35 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(02-14-2021 05:15 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-14-2021 05:11 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  A lot of hispanics fled from socialism and communism. Probably a reason why they vote against it here.

I have no data to back it up but they seem to be religious, hard working and value traditional families.

The are conservative.

You are absolutely right. Fundamentally they are conservative except when it comes to party lines. Like I've said a quadrillion times in El Paso even though they are catholic and many of the ideas of the Demoncraptic Party conflict with their religion they still are brainwashed into voting for them. It's not that they are dumb it's that they have had that mindset for decades and as brainwashing goes it is something that they don't want to let go and the media keeps giving them the false narratives that they swallow wholehardedly. I think they think that they are being unAmerican by voting for (as some see it) the Rich Peoples Party even though it's the Demons who tax them unceasingly, not to forget issues that even the Pope is against. The trouble there also is that the majority are buffet catholics. I know it because I was one of them for many years. I used to root everytime someone converted to catholicism not now.

The Catholic church , so many conflicting emotions. I was raised in the Catholic church by a devout mother and still haven't found any answers as to what made her so devoted to the church. It certainly wasn't passed down to me. Many of my family are devout and don't seem to be able to address the inconsistencies they display by supporting the church and the democrats at the same time.

By and large the GOP has to begin to change the narrative of Dems have ideas and the GOP just wants to say no.

This was not helped by the fact that the GOP did zero legislatively to change Obamacare.

It won't easy with the biased media and corruptocrats that permeate the GOP like Senator Burr