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Only a matter of time until the Furman University Paladin's are going to change then. If you want to know what a Paladin is, one definition is a Christian Knight.

So Furman University Christian Knights.

That always raises an eyebrow.
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NW Indiana isn't the epitome of charm, but Valpo is a nice little college in a cute enough small town. Unfortunately SJW nonsense has no limits however, complete idiocy across almost all modern universities.
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(02-11-2021 08:30 PM)Arch Stanton Wrote:  
(02-11-2021 08:15 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(02-11-2021 08:11 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  If they must rebrand, just make it Knights and call it a day 07-coffee3

Due to similarity, I image that mascot is next. The Crusaders were all members of the Knight Templar for the most part.

Most crusaders were not knights and the majority were peasants. Knights Templar were the largest religious knights but there were the Teutonic Knights and Hospitaller Knights (St Johns). Many knights were under direction of Nobles who took up the crusade and not afiliated with a religious order like the Knights Templar.

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The Valparaiso "Beige."
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(02-11-2021 02:50 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(02-11-2021 02:33 PM)mikeinsec127 Wrote:  So let me get this strait. A university sponsored by and affiliated with the Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod has changed its nickmane and mascot to that of a pagan, tribal, invading horde. That makes complete sence.

I took Vandals as a joke...

Ah thanks for the update Mark. You going to the RU/Cuse game 9/11/21?
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As a fan/alumnus that changed its school athletic nickname to be more inclusive and not politically incorrect, I can say the most amusing aspect to whomever is offended by said name that pursues a school to change is that it does not change the association nor does it change the nickname's usage. Even today, more than 20 years later, sportscasters and announcers still refer to Marquette University as the "Warriors". It happens regularly and routinely. I also know that is happens with many other schools and teams across the country. Changing a nickname does not change the history and/or the association. Students and fans still purchase and create unaffiliated shirts and merchandise with the former name. Thus, the "official" connection might be removed, but it does not remove a fan base's usage or memory from it. Changing a nickname doesn’t change behaviors, such as using a nickname as part of vernacular, which is the goal and pursuit of all name changes. If anything, it only strengthens and affirms it, in a weird way.

We are approaching a very slippery slope in regards to mascots and nicknames. I'm genuinely surprised that PETA has not become more vocal and involved in teams that are named after animals, or have real-life animals as mascots. If you collect a group of 100 people, you will undoubtedly find 100 different sources that cause offence. And if we cancel out everything that is deemed offensive, what will we have left? Food for thought, I guess.
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(02-12-2021 11:21 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  As a fan/alumnus that changed its school athletic nickname to be more inclusive and not politically incorrect, I can say the most amusing aspect to whomever is offended by said name that pursues a school to change is that it does not change the association nor does it change the nickname's usage. Even today, more than 20 years later, sportscasters and announcers still refer to Marquette University as the "Warriors". It happens regularly and routinely. I also know that is happens with many other schools and teams across the country. Changing a nickname does not change the history and/or the association. Students and fans still purchase and create unaffiliated shirts and merchandise with the former name. Thus, the "official" connection might be removed, but it does not remove a fan base's usage or memory from it. Changing a nickname does change behaviors, such as using a nickname as part of vernacular, which is the goal and pursuit of all name changes. If anything, it only strengthens and affirms it, in a weird way.

We are approaching a very slippery slope in regards to mascots and nicknames. I'm genuinely surprised that PETA has not become more vocal and involved in teams that are named after animals, or have real-life animals as mascots. If you collect a group of 100 people, you will undoubtedly find 100 different sources that cause offence. And if we cancel out everything that is deemed offensive, what will we have left? Food for thought, I guess.


Warriors are used as a name of a military. Are men and women who serves in the US military are warriors to defend our country. There is really nothing wrong with that term or word.
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(02-12-2021 11:21 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  As a fan/alumnus that changed its school athletic nickname to be more inclusive and not politically incorrect, I can say the most amusing aspect to whomever is offended by said name that pursues a school to change is that it does not change the association nor does it change the nickname's usage. Even today, more than 20 years later, sportscasters and announcers still refer to Marquette University as the "Warriors". It happens regularly and routinely. I also know that is happens with many other schools and teams across the country. Changing a nickname does not change the history and/or the association. Students and fans still purchase and create unaffiliated shirts and merchandise with the former name. Thus, the "official" connection might be removed, but it does not remove a fan base's usage or memory from it. Changing a nickname does change behaviors, such as using a nickname as part of vernacular, which is the goal and pursuit of all name changes. If anything, it only strengthens and affirms it, in a weird way.

We are approaching a very slippery slope in regards to mascots and nicknames. I'm genuinely surprised that PETA has not become more vocal and involved in teams that are named after animals, or have real-life animals as mascots. If you collect a group of 100 people, you will undoubtedly find 100 different sources that cause offence. And if we cancel out everything that is deemed offensive, what will we have left? Food for thought, I guess.

The funny thing is schools think they can “erase” the history and no one will know it ever existed. Valpo is even mass-purging all past social media posts that makes any reference to the Crusader.


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I'm likely one of the more socio-politically progressive posters on this board. But I must admit: Most of these name changes border on absurd.

I recall when Belmont changed its nickname to Bruins from Rebels. The latter offered (university officials contended) an Old South/Confederacy vibe. I get it. But not all "rebels" are Confederates. Belmont could have kept the Rebel nickname and created a new mascot and theme. Could have made it playful. Too late now.

Don't run away from your history (but don't embrace the ugly elements either). There is a compromise to be found. Sadly, many universities are failing to see that.
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(02-12-2021 11:33 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(02-12-2021 11:21 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  As a fan/alumnus that changed its school athletic nickname to be more inclusive and not politically incorrect, I can say the most amusing aspect to whomever is offended by said name that pursues a school to change is that it does not change the association nor does it change the nickname's usage. Even today, more than 20 years later, sportscasters and announcers still refer to Marquette University as the "Warriors". It happens regularly and routinely. I also know that is happens with many other schools and teams across the country. Changing a nickname does not change the history and/or the association. Students and fans still purchase and create unaffiliated shirts and merchandise with the former name. Thus, the "official" connection might be removed, but it does not remove a fan base's usage or memory from it. Changing a nickname does change behaviors, such as using a nickname as part of vernacular, which is the goal and pursuit of all name changes. If anything, it only strengthens and affirms it, in a weird way.

We are approaching a very slippery slope in regards to mascots and nicknames. I'm genuinely surprised that PETA has not become more vocal and involved in teams that are named after animals, or have real-life animals as mascots. If you collect a group of 100 people, you will undoubtedly find 100 different sources that cause offence. And if we cancel out everything that is deemed offensive, what will we have left? Food for thought, I guess.


Warriors are used as a name of a military. Are men and women who serves in the US military are warriors to defend our country. There is really nothing wrong with that term or word.


Very true. However, our (Marquette) branding utilized Native American imagery. It could have been the easiest thing to just change the logo (to a Spartan, to an Army logo, etc.). Alas, the school wanted ALL associations erased. The Golden State Warriors made it work. No reason Marquette could not have too.
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(02-11-2021 04:26 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  
(02-11-2021 02:14 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  I mean the whole point of a mascot is to instill fear in your opponent or look big and bad. There is a reason schools picked tigers, vikings, pirates, etc... and it isn't because they were perceived as good people or nice animals. Or better yet why it is Fighting Okra and not just Okra.

Columbia College, SC, is known as the Koalas. :D Of course, they were a women's college up until this year.

That only works if Koala Kai is their training facility.
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(02-12-2021 12:45 PM)whittx Wrote:  
(02-11-2021 04:26 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  
(02-11-2021 02:14 PM)Titans3775 Wrote:  I mean the whole point of a mascot is to instill fear in your opponent or look big and bad. There is a reason schools picked tigers, vikings, pirates, etc... and it isn't because they were perceived as good people or nice animals. Or better yet why it is Fighting Okra and not just Okra.

Columbia College, SC, is known as the Koalas. :D Of course, they were a women's college up until this year.

That only works if Koala Kai is their training facility.

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Valparaiso Virgins has a nice ring to it.
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Valparaiso Virtue Signalers

Their costumed mascot will be a non-gender binary, anthropomorphic blob with no distinguishable ethic or racial connection, will use the pronoun zee, and ride into the stadium in an electric car.
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I will say I never liked the nickname "Redskins." References to physical traits given at birth ... off limits. In poor taste.

On this theme, and as a chinless gentleman, I would feel bad for all the other chin- and jawline-lacking fellows were the Washington Football Team to be renamed the Washington Chinless Men. Of course, I would take great glee in such if the franchise's logo was the visage of a lasciviously smiling Bill Dazzle.
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Tigers or Cardinals. Has to be.
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(02-12-2021 04:54 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  I will say I never liked the nickname "Redskins." References to physical traits given at birth ... off limits. In poor taste.

On this theme, and as a chinless gentleman, I would feel bad for all the other chin- and jawline-lacking fellows were the Washington Football Team to be renamed the Washington Chinless Men. Of course, I would take great glee in such if the franchise's logo was the visage of a lasciviously smiling Bill Dazzle.


The term Redskin actually was a term froman actual Native American chief who fought in the Revolutionary War on our side against the British. The speech said whiteskins and redskins are friends. It was was until after the civil war under Grant administration that the cavalry used the term redskins as a racial slur when the Natives were being genocide and forced onto reservations at the time. When you had the cavalry slaughtering women, children, the disabled and the elderly at the time? It was a dark period of our history which made the term Redskin being bad.
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(02-12-2021 11:21 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  As a fan/alumnus that changed its school athletic nickname to be more inclusive and not politically incorrect, I can say the most amusing aspect to whomever is offended by said name that pursues a school to change is that it does not change the association nor does it change the nickname's usage. Even today, more than 20 years later, sportscasters and announcers still refer to Marquette University as the "Warriors". It happens regularly and routinely. I also know that is happens with many other schools and teams across the country. Changing a nickname does not change the history and/or the association. Students and fans still purchase and create unaffiliated shirts and merchandise with the former name. Thus, the "official" connection might be removed, but it does not remove a fan base's usage or memory from it. Changing a nickname doesn’t change behaviors, such as using a nickname as part of vernacular, which is the goal and pursuit of all name changes. If anything, it only strengthens and affirms it, in a weird way.

We are approaching a very slippery slope in regards to mascots and nicknames. I'm genuinely surprised that PETA has not become more vocal and involved in teams that are named after animals, or have real-life animals as mascots. If you collect a group of 100 people, you will undoubtedly find 100 different sources that cause offence. And if we cancel out everything that is deemed offensive, what will we have left? Food for thought, I guess.

As a lurker for some time your posts are always a great read and I usually agree with you. With this post I think you are spot on again.

The Vikings raped and pillaged should we change the Minnesota Vikings name? As you said were does it end?

As Dazzle (another great poster) posts below I also thought the Redskins name was derogatory and had native Americans had any financial clout the name would have been changed years ago so I agree with the cancelation of their name but really disagree with the whole cancel culture our country is in.

Are the Ole Miss Rebels safe? No more col Reb but the name rebels and colors of the Virginia BattleFlag?
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(02-11-2021 06:05 PM)Arch Stanton Wrote:  
(02-11-2021 04:24 PM)ODUODUODU Wrote:  So who is offended or a victim by the use of the Crusaders name? Trying to educate my self here...

There were instances when the Crusaders slaughtered innocent people. If I recall the 1st or 2nd time they took Jerusalem the Crusaders slaughtered all the inhabitants of Jurusalem including noncombatants of Muslim and jewish faith. It was war fueled by the capture of the Holy Land from Muslim rule.

And the Muslims slaughtered those in Crusader cities as well. Wars were fought differently then.
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(02-11-2021 09:03 PM)RobtheAggie Wrote:  Only a matter of time until the Furman University Paladin's are going to change then. If you want to know what a Paladin is, one definition is a Christian Knight.

So Furman University Christian Knights.

That always raises an eyebrow.

Do you think any of these cancel mobs have any people intelligent enough to figure that out?
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