(02-10-2021 02:50 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-10-2021 02:41 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-10-2021 02:28 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-10-2021 02:13 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-10-2021 01:59 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Have IQ's suddenly dropped over the last month? Yes--A life saving program that is CURRENTLY being used is saving lives. A similar program has been saving lives for years in France. So---I guess the real question is "Did YOU read the article---or did you just vomit out the first worthless propaganda talking point you heard on MSNBC?" The reality? This crisis occurred under Obama and (at the time) Vice President Dumb Dumb. They had 8 years to address it and did NOTHING. So, among his FIRST moves as leader of the free world, President Dumb Dumb goes back to doing nothing and letting people die. Sorry---you voted this drooling dumb dunb into office, thus you get to defend President Dumb Dumb when he literally goes out of his way to make sure more people die. Sorry, your weak sauce defense of this abomination of an administration does nothing to make its actions less ghastly.

Trump had 1,460 days to do something about it and six days before he was on his way out he scribbled some EO without any directives or policies ready to put in place.

But yeah, his 11:59 EO was incredible. Going to be HUGE. Great minds took 1,454 days to craft it. He probably saved millions of lives with the last minute EO that he could have issued on day 1 of his administration.
Or day 2.
Or day 3.
Or day 4.
Or day five.
Or day 105.
Or day 456.
Or day 720.
Or day 912.
Or day 1000.
Or day 1069.
Or day 1222.
Or day 1322.
Or day 1323.
Or day 1360.
Or Day 1400.

Ya'll are just crazy. TDS mutated into BDS.

LOL. Opium related Death rates FELL all through Trumps presidency. They ROSE to epidemic levels during the Obama/DumbDumb administration. The Obama/DumbDumb administration could have done something on day 1....or they could have even done something on day 1400...or day 1765...or day 2130.. or day 2495...or even on day 2859.....but the Obama/DumbDumb administration didnt bother to do anything-----opting to just let opium death rates continue to rocket higher. They are just so super special awesome!!! So---what else ya got to defend President DumbDumb? Hey--how about calling it a President DumbDumb "jobs creation" program for the funeral industry!!

And what the HE LL are you talking about?

Oh Good Lord...congrats on the technicality. Let me amend that to "Prescription Opium Related Deaths". Btw---That STILL has absolutely no bearing of any decent reason as to WHY President DumbDumb would ditch the policy. Of course we ALL know why.

Skyrocketing Fentanyl overdoses during the trump administration way outpaced the small drop in prescription opioid deaths.

(02-10-2021 03:18 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(02-10-2021 02:50 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-10-2021 02:41 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-10-2021 02:28 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-10-2021 02:13 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Trump had 1,460 days to do something about it and six days before he was on his way out he scribbled some EO without any directives or policies ready to put in place.

But yeah, his 11:59 EO was incredible. Going to be HUGE. Great minds took 1,454 days to craft it. He probably saved millions of lives with the last minute EO that he could have issued on day 1 of his administration.
Or day 2.
Or day 3.
Or day 4.
Or day five.
Or day 105.
Or day 456.
Or day 720.
Or day 912.
Or day 1000.
Or day 1069.
Or day 1222.
Or day 1322.
Or day 1323.
Or day 1360.
Or Day 1400.

Ya'll are just crazy. TDS mutated into BDS.

LOL. Opium related Death rates FELL all through Trumps presidency. They ROSE to epidemic levels during the Obama/DumbDumb administration. The Obama/DumbDumb administration could have done something on day 1....or they could have even done something on day 1400...or day 1765...or day 2130.. or day 2495...or even on day 2859.....but the Obama/DumbDumb administration didnt bother to do anything-----opting to just let opium death rates continue to rocket higher. They are just so super special awesome!!! So---what else ya got to defend President DumbDumb? Hey--how about calling it a President DumbDumb "jobs creation" program for the funeral industry!!

And what the HE LL are you talking about?

Oh Good Lord...congrats on the technicality. Let me amend that to "Prescription Opium Related Deaths". Btw---That STILL has absolutely no bearing of any decent reason as to WHY President DumbDumb would ditch the policy. Of course we ALL know why.

Skyrocketing Fentanyl overdoses during the trump administration way outpaced the small drop in prescription opioid deaths.

No, no. He was doing an incredible job. Only the top people in the world were working on the finest plans.

In fact, the rule change that was put into place 1,454 days into his presidency, without any plan for implementation, was the finest piece of rulemaking ever made in the history of rulemaking.

But because the rule that was never put in place didn't get put in place (yet somehow was a life saving program that was saving lives) Biden is to blame for the opiod crisis.

Duh.

(02-10-2021 03:18 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(02-10-2021 02:50 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-10-2021 02:41 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-10-2021 02:28 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-10-2021 02:13 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  Trump had 1,460 days to do something about it and six days before he was on his way out he scribbled some EO without any directives or policies ready to put in place.

But yeah, his 11:59 EO was incredible. Going to be HUGE. Great minds took 1,454 days to craft it. He probably saved millions of lives with the last minute EO that he could have issued on day 1 of his administration.
Or day 2.
Or day 3.
Or day 4.
Or day five.
Or day 105.
Or day 456.
Or day 720.
Or day 912.
Or day 1000.
Or day 1069.
Or day 1222.
Or day 1322.
Or day 1323.
Or day 1360.
Or Day 1400.

Ya'll are just crazy. TDS mutated into BDS.

LOL. Opium related Death rates FELL all through Trumps presidency. They ROSE to epidemic levels during the Obama/DumbDumb administration. The Obama/DumbDumb administration could have done something on day 1....or they could have even done something on day 1400...or day 1765...or day 2130.. or day 2495...or even on day 2859.....but the Obama/DumbDumb administration didnt bother to do anything-----opting to just let opium death rates continue to rocket higher. They are just so super special awesome!!! So---what else ya got to defend President DumbDumb? Hey--how about calling it a President DumbDumb "jobs creation" program for the funeral industry!!

And what the HE LL are you talking about?

Oh Good Lord...congrats on the technicality. Let me amend that to "Prescription Opium Related Deaths". Btw---That STILL has absolutely no bearing of any decent reason as to WHY President DumbDumb would ditch the policy. Of course we ALL know why.

Skyrocketing Fentanyl overdoses during the trump administration way outpaced the small drop in prescription opioid deaths.

And where is the Fentanyl manufactured? China
And how do they get it into the Country? Southern Border(Mexico)
Opium War

(02-10-2021 03:29 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(02-10-2021 03:18 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(02-10-2021 02:50 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-10-2021 02:41 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-10-2021 02:28 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  LOL. Opium related Death rates FELL all through Trumps presidency. They ROSE to epidemic levels during the Obama/DumbDumb administration. The Obama/DumbDumb administration could have done something on day 1....or they could have even done something on day 1400...or day 1765...or day 2130.. or day 2495...or even on day 2859.....but the Obama/DumbDumb administration didnt bother to do anything-----opting to just let opium death rates continue to rocket higher. They are just so super special awesome!!! So---what else ya got to defend President DumbDumb? Hey--how about calling it a President DumbDumb "jobs creation" program for the funeral industry!!

And what the HE LL are you talking about?

Oh Good Lord...congrats on the technicality. Let me amend that to "Prescription Opium Related Deaths". Btw---That STILL has absolutely no bearing of any decent reason as to WHY President DumbDumb would ditch the policy. Of course we ALL know why.

Skyrocketing Fentanyl overdoses during the trump administration way outpaced the small drop in prescription opioid deaths.

And where is the Fentanyl manufactured? China
And how do they get it into the Country? Southern Border(Mexico)
Opium War

Yikes.

By that logic, since Fentanyl use and deaths skyrocketed under Trump, it seems he's been pretty soft on China and Mexico.

Agree with [Hey There Goes] Elvis on this, Saluki.

Gotta stop confusing the sheep by changing out what you feed them with better food every few posts. They can't read anyway.

BDS.

(02-10-2021 03:29 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(02-10-2021 03:18 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(02-10-2021 02:50 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-10-2021 02:41 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-10-2021 02:28 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  LOL. Opium related Death rates FELL all through Trumps presidency. They ROSE to epidemic levels during the Obama/DumbDumb administration. The Obama/DumbDumb administration could have done something on day 1....or they could have even done something on day 1400...or day 1765...or day 2130.. or day 2495...or even on day 2859.....but the Obama/DumbDumb administration didnt bother to do anything-----opting to just let opium death rates continue to rocket higher. They are just so super special awesome!!! So---what else ya got to defend President DumbDumb? Hey--how about calling it a President DumbDumb "jobs creation" program for the funeral industry!!

And what the HE LL are you talking about?

Oh Good Lord...congrats on the technicality. Let me amend that to "Prescription Opium Related Deaths". Btw---That STILL has absolutely no bearing of any decent reason as to WHY President DumbDumb would ditch the policy. Of course we ALL know why.

Skyrocketing Fentanyl overdoses during the trump administration way outpaced the small drop in prescription opioid deaths.

And where is the Fentanyl manufactured? China
And how do they get it into the Country? Southern Border(Mexico)
Opium War

Chinese fentanyl is highly concentrated and primarily enters the country through mail and express packages, it doesn’t come in through Mexico.

There is Mexican and Indian fentanyl coming in as well, but China is the majority and it doesn’t go over the southern border.

(02-10-2021 03:12 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(02-10-2021 03:11 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-10-2021 03:04 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(02-10-2021 02:50 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-10-2021 02:41 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  And what the HE LL are you talking about?

Oh Good Lord...congrats on the technicality. Let me amend that to "Prescription Opium Related Deaths". Btw---That STILL has absolutely no bearing of any decent reason as to WHY President DumbDumb would ditch the policy. Of course we ALL know why.

Ditch the policy?

THERE WAS NO POLICY!

Trump issued it at 11:59 in his presidency. Without any date certain to start.

lol...so, since you ignored giving me a reason why President DumbDumb made this one of the first moves of his presidency---I can assume you either cant defend it or are waiting for MSNBC to tell all the Bidenbots what to say to defend the undefensible.

It says right in the article that they feel there are legal issues with the way trump did it.

Fake news. That argument is rebutted in literally the next sentences.


We hope this about-face wasn’t political. But if the only issue is procedural, why not let the change stand until Congress passes legislation to regularize it? There is every reason to do so: Nearly 130 Americans die of opioid overdoses on an average day, and a bipartisan bill has already been proposed, with plans for reintroduction.

Drs. Barnett and Weleff wrote in the Wall Street Journal editorial:

Perhaps the Biden administration will eliminate the X-waiver in its own manner. But how can it justify further delay with overdose deaths increasing amid the pandemic? If the administration lacks the courage to act now, we implore Congress to do so. It should use the next Covid-19 [coronavirus disease] relief package as an opportunity to end the X-waiver’s deadly reign.


Thus I continue to ask---why get rid of the policy until you have a better one ready to go? Nobody has an answer other than---"Thats just how President DumbDumb rolls."

(02-10-2021 03:47 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(02-10-2021 03:29 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(02-10-2021 03:18 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(02-10-2021 02:50 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(02-10-2021 02:41 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  And what the HE LL are you talking about?

Oh Good Lord...congrats on the technicality. Let me amend that to "Prescription Opium Related Deaths". Btw---That STILL has absolutely no bearing of any decent reason as to WHY President DumbDumb would ditch the policy. Of course we ALL know why.

Skyrocketing Fentanyl overdoses during the trump administration way outpaced the small drop in prescription opioid deaths.

And where is the Fentanyl manufactured? China
And how do they get it into the Country? Southern Border(Mexico)
Opium War

Chinese fentanyl is highly concentrated and primarily enters the country through mail and express packages, it doesn’t come in through Mexico.

There is Mexican and Indian fentanyl coming in as well, but China is the majority and it doesn’t go over the southern border.

MEXICO CITY, Mexico – From nondescript buildings in the industrial nucleus of Wuhan, across wavy seas to dusty tented super laboratories in the heart of Mexico, and then across the jagged southwest border and dispersing like a wild bomb ripping through every crevice of the United States, the growing presence of Chinese drug lords and cartels below the southern border is one that is killing an unprecedented amount of Americans.

According to multiple Mexico-based security and intelligence professionals, the bulk of the deadly work is carried out by the "Los Zheng" wing, identified as having "the largest presence in Mexico for the trafficking of fentanyl and methamphetamine."

As per intelligence findings by security firm Fortress Risk Management, obtained exclusively by Fox News, the Zhengs operate through seemingly legitimate shell companies that offer veterinary services, clothing sales, clinical laboratories and maintenance of computer systems in Mexico. They use the ports of Lázaro Cárdenas, Michoacán, Manzanillo Colima in Mexico and Ensenada Baja, Calif., for the commercialization of their products in the country.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/chinese-ca...rug-crisis

Fentanyl has taken over America’s drug market. Where is it coming from?

Multiple fronts.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/new...story.html