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RE: Future Men's & Women's Basketball Schedules - Western Athletic Conference
(08-24-2021 01:22 PM)SammyH Wrote:  The ASUN.

The ASUN had invited us, along with Lamar, the latter per request of the TSUS system. The ASUN complied. The board of regents approved the move. A move that would’ve put us in a significantly better FCS football conference (with more “FBS ready” teams, in the sport our fans generally care more about). A move that would’ve put us in a significantly better baseball conference (WAC baseball blows, and again, this is along with football is a sport our casual fans care about, unlike basketball). A move that would’ve put us in an similar basketball conference that’s had a higher RPI rating for years now. A move that would’ve kept us in the southeast. We did deserve better. I don’t hate any of the schools in the WAC. I hate we joined them.

But alas, Stephen F. Austin wanted the WAC. And we’re tied at the hip. And I won’t suck it up and stop complaining. The little FBS charter thing probably helped, not that it will ever happen. This move is worse for football, worse for baseball, and not much different for basketball.

There’s your real, serious answer.

Got it, this helps me understand better. The ASUN would have some advantages, but some disadvantages as well. I appreciate the response.

This is the RPI from 2021 for baseball, a very down year by the WAC.
22 - ASUN
26 - WAC

https://www.warrennolan.com/baseball/202...conference

Both conferences had their bad teams:
WAC had 6 RPI above 200 (some mitigated by the lack of non conference games for some teams, and NMSU being unusually bad last year)
ASUN had 3 teams above 200

For what it was worth - the Southland was 19th with 4 schools above 200.
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(08-24-2021 12:54 PM)DZ1 Wrote:  
(08-24-2021 12:34 AM)SammyH Wrote:  
(08-22-2021 01:40 AM)DZ1 Wrote:  
(08-21-2021 09:40 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  
(08-21-2021 07:57 PM)SammyH Wrote:  Which statement I made was inaccurate? Did NMSU not just finish third in a weak conference? Have they won an ncaa tournament game more recently than 1993?

Near misses. Shiver me timbers.

Not inaccurate but incomplete. You are quick to point out that NMSU finished 3rd on the WAC this past season; glossing over the fact that NMSU has been dominant in the WAC the last 10-15 years. Yet, you acknowledge Kentucky blue blood prominence without pointing out they finished 7th in the SEC last season with a LOSING record. You pick and choose your facts to suit your needs simply to be an irritant. Stop being obtuse.
Thanks Pistol. Wanted to say something similar. Not a NMSU fan, but no one can deny they are one of the best mid-major programs out there. Well, no sane person can deny it.
Mid-Major? 01-wingedeagle This is a low-major conference if I’ve ever seen one.
Even though you seem to be just trolling or are genuinely obtuse as Pistol says, I will agree with you that the WAC has not done well the past few years. However, we should see improvement with the addition of the Texas 4 and Southern Utah plus the loss of Chicago State.
Below is a list of the WAC's standing among the 32 conferences since NMSU joined in 2006 (according to KenPom). Southland's ranking is in parenthesis. While you might argue that the WAC is not a good conference, it is hard to argue that the Texas 4 took a step down by joining the WAC, at least when it comes to men's basketball.
Second, since GCU has joined the WAC in 2014, NMSU has been the team to beat. They have finished with a top 100 ranking in KenPom 6 out of those 9 years with last year (ranked 150) being their lowest. Typically, P5 schools do not want to play mid-major schools ranked between 70 to 150 (especially on the mid-majors home court) since there is a legitimate chance they may lose the OOC game which may cost them an NCAA tournament invite down the road.
Okay, I have made my case. Not much more I can do. If you still feel the WAC is a low-major and NMSU is not a team the P5 schools would try to avoid, then I guess we will just need to agree to disagree.

Year WAC (Southland)
2021 23rd (30th) - end of WAC 2.0
2020 24th (28th)
2019 17th (29th)
2018 18th (28th)
2017 17th (27th)
2016 24th (29th)
2015 31st (30th) -
2014 22nd (29th) - transition to WAC 2.0
2013 13th (26th) - end of WAC 1.0
2012 12th (27th)
2011 14th (28th)
2010 11th (23rd)
2009 12th (18th)
2008 17th (22nd)
2007 9th (25th)
2006 10th (20th)
You preface this by saying I’m trolling or stupid, then agree with me? Not a good look.

Maybe you’ve misconstrued my complaints about the WAC as me wanting to stay in the Southland? I’m fine with leaving. I’ve come around to it, specifically in basketball, and understand that WAC basketball is better than the Southland. Both conferences are low majors, although as you point out one is certainly better. What’s infuriating about this is that we had an offer on the table to move to a conference that’s INCREDIBLY similar to (if not better than) the WAC in the big $$ making sport, and is significantly better in the sports that SHSU is historically competitive in.

Not that the ASUN isn’t also a low major. It is. Just like the WAC. And just like the Southland.
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(08-24-2021 03:19 PM)SammyH Wrote:  
(08-24-2021 12:54 PM)DZ1 Wrote:  
(08-24-2021 12:34 AM)SammyH Wrote:  
(08-22-2021 01:40 AM)DZ1 Wrote:  
(08-21-2021 09:40 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  Not inaccurate but incomplete. You are quick to point out that NMSU finished 3rd on the WAC this past season; glossing over the fact that NMSU has been dominant in the WAC the last 10-15 years. Yet, you acknowledge Kentucky blue blood prominence without pointing out they finished 7th in the SEC last season with a LOSING record. You pick and choose your facts to suit your needs simply to be an irritant. Stop being obtuse.
Thanks Pistol. Wanted to say something similar. Not a NMSU fan, but no one can deny they are one of the best mid-major programs out there. Well, no sane person can deny it.
Mid-Major? 01-wingedeagle This is a low-major conference if I’ve ever seen one.
Even though you seem to be just trolling or are genuinely obtuse as Pistol says, I will agree with you that the WAC has not done well the past few years. However, we should see improvement with the addition of the Texas 4 and Southern Utah plus the loss of Chicago State.
Below is a list of the WAC's standing among the 32 conferences since NMSU joined in 2006 (according to KenPom). Southland's ranking is in parenthesis. While you might argue that the WAC is not a good conference, it is hard to argue that the Texas 4 took a step down by joining the WAC, at least when it comes to men's basketball.
Second, since GCU has joined the WAC in 2014, NMSU has been the team to beat. They have finished with a top 100 ranking in KenPom 6 out of those 9 years with last year (ranked 150) being their lowest. Typically, P5 schools do not want to play mid-major schools ranked between 70 to 150 (especially on the mid-majors home court) since there is a legitimate chance they may lose the OOC game which may cost them an NCAA tournament invite down the road.
Okay, I have made my case. Not much more I can do. If you still feel the WAC is a low-major and NMSU is not a team the P5 schools would try to avoid, then I guess we will just need to agree to disagree.

Year WAC (Southland)
2021 23rd (30th) - end of WAC 2.0
2020 24th (28th)
2019 17th (29th)
2018 18th (28th)
2017 17th (27th)
2016 24th (29th)
2015 31st (30th) -
2014 22nd (29th) - transition to WAC 2.0
2013 13th (26th) - end of WAC 1.0
2012 12th (27th)
2011 14th (28th)
2010 11th (23rd)
2009 12th (18th)
2008 17th (22nd)
2007 9th (25th)
2006 10th (20th)
You preface this by saying I’m trolling or stupid, then agree with me? Not a good look.

Maybe you’ve misconstrued my complaints about the WAC as me wanting to stay in the Southland? I’m fine with leaving. I’ve come around to it, specifically in basketball, and understand that WAC basketball is better than the Southland. Both conferences are low majors, although as you point out one is certainly better. What’s infuriating about this is that we had an offer on the table to move to a conference that’s INCREDIBLY similar to (if not better than) the WAC in the big $$ making sport, and is significantly better in the sports that SHSU is historically competitive in.

Not that the ASUN isn’t also a low major. It is. Just like the WAC. And just like the Southland.

I am not sure why you think the ASUN is a better basketball conference - It is Liberty and the occasional team that makes a run. The Top of the WAC is far more consistent and supported than new look ASUN. Adding SFA to either conference would be a bonus
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(08-24-2021 03:30 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(08-24-2021 03:19 PM)SammyH Wrote:  
(08-24-2021 12:54 PM)DZ1 Wrote:  
(08-24-2021 12:34 AM)SammyH Wrote:  
(08-22-2021 01:40 AM)DZ1 Wrote:  Thanks Pistol. Wanted to say something similar. Not a NMSU fan, but no one can deny they are one of the best mid-major programs out there. Well, no sane person can deny it.
Mid-Major? 01-wingedeagle This is a low-major conference if I’ve ever seen one.
Even though you seem to be just trolling or are genuinely obtuse as Pistol says, I will agree with you that the WAC has not done well the past few years. However, we should see improvement with the addition of the Texas 4 and Southern Utah plus the loss of Chicago State.
Below is a list of the WAC's standing among the 32 conferences since NMSU joined in 2006 (according to KenPom). Southland's ranking is in parenthesis. While you might argue that the WAC is not a good conference, it is hard to argue that the Texas 4 took a step down by joining the WAC, at least when it comes to men's basketball.
Second, since GCU has joined the WAC in 2014, NMSU has been the team to beat. They have finished with a top 100 ranking in KenPom 6 out of those 9 years with last year (ranked 150) being their lowest. Typically, P5 schools do not want to play mid-major schools ranked between 70 to 150 (especially on the mid-majors home court) since there is a legitimate chance they may lose the OOC game which may cost them an NCAA tournament invite down the road.
Okay, I have made my case. Not much more I can do. If you still feel the WAC is a low-major and NMSU is not a team the P5 schools would try to avoid, then I guess we will just need to agree to disagree.

Year WAC (Southland)
2021 23rd (30th) - end of WAC 2.0
2020 24th (28th)
2019 17th (29th)
2018 18th (28th)
2017 17th (27th)
2016 24th (29th)
2015 31st (30th) -
2014 22nd (29th) - transition to WAC 2.0
2013 13th (26th) - end of WAC 1.0
2012 12th (27th)
2011 14th (28th)
2010 11th (23rd)
2009 12th (18th)
2008 17th (22nd)
2007 9th (25th)
2006 10th (20th)
You preface this by saying I’m trolling or stupid, then agree with me? Not a good look.

Maybe you’ve misconstrued my complaints about the WAC as me wanting to stay in the Southland? I’m fine with leaving. I’ve come around to it, specifically in basketball, and understand that WAC basketball is better than the Southland. Both conferences are low majors, although as you point out one is certainly better. What’s infuriating about this is that we had an offer on the table to move to a conference that’s INCREDIBLY similar to (if not better than) the WAC in the big $$ making sport, and is significantly better in the sports that SHSU is historically competitive in.

Not that the ASUN isn’t also a low major. It is. Just like the WAC. And just like the Southland.

I am not sure why you think the ASUN is a better basketball conference - It is Liberty and the occasional team that makes a run. The Top of the WAC is far more consistent and supported than new look ASUN. Adding SFA to either conference would be a bonus
Because the ASUN had a higher RPI last year? Regardless, there’s no denying that the two are similar basketball leagues.
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(08-24-2021 03:44 PM)SammyH Wrote:  
(08-24-2021 03:30 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(08-24-2021 03:19 PM)SammyH Wrote:  
(08-24-2021 12:54 PM)DZ1 Wrote:  
(08-24-2021 12:34 AM)SammyH Wrote:  Mid-Major? 01-wingedeagle This is a low-major conference if I’ve ever seen one.
Even though you seem to be just trolling or are genuinely obtuse as Pistol says, I will agree with you that the WAC has not done well the past few years. However, we should see improvement with the addition of the Texas 4 and Southern Utah plus the loss of Chicago State.
Below is a list of the WAC's standing among the 32 conferences since NMSU joined in 2006 (according to KenPom). Southland's ranking is in parenthesis. While you might argue that the WAC is not a good conference, it is hard to argue that the Texas 4 took a step down by joining the WAC, at least when it comes to men's basketball.
Second, since GCU has joined the WAC in 2014, NMSU has been the team to beat. They have finished with a top 100 ranking in KenPom 6 out of those 9 years with last year (ranked 150) being their lowest. Typically, P5 schools do not want to play mid-major schools ranked between 70 to 150 (especially on the mid-majors home court) since there is a legitimate chance they may lose the OOC game which may cost them an NCAA tournament invite down the road.
Okay, I have made my case. Not much more I can do. If you still feel the WAC is a low-major and NMSU is not a team the P5 schools would try to avoid, then I guess we will just need to agree to disagree.

Year WAC (Southland)
2021 23rd (30th) - end of WAC 2.0
2020 24th (28th)
2019 17th (29th)
2018 18th (28th)
2017 17th (27th)
2016 24th (29th)
2015 31st (30th) -
2014 22nd (29th) - transition to WAC 2.0
2013 13th (26th) - end of WAC 1.0
2012 12th (27th)
2011 14th (28th)
2010 11th (23rd)
2009 12th (18th)
2008 17th (22nd)
2007 9th (25th)
2006 10th (20th)
You preface this by saying I’m trolling or stupid, then agree with me? Not a good look.

Maybe you’ve misconstrued my complaints about the WAC as me wanting to stay in the Southland? I’m fine with leaving. I’ve come around to it, specifically in basketball, and understand that WAC basketball is better than the Southland. Both conferences are low majors, although as you point out one is certainly better. What’s infuriating about this is that we had an offer on the table to move to a conference that’s INCREDIBLY similar to (if not better than) the WAC in the big $$ making sport, and is significantly better in the sports that SHSU is historically competitive in.

Not that the ASUN isn’t also a low major. It is. Just like the WAC. And just like the Southland.

I am not sure why you think the ASUN is a better basketball conference - It is Liberty and the occasional team that makes a run. The Top of the WAC is far more consistent and supported than new look ASUN. Adding SFA to either conference would be a bonus
Because the ASUN had a higher RPI last year? Regardless, there’s no denying that the two are similar basketball leagues.

Barely ahead. One place, and a minor difference. Not really enough to make a difference.
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(08-24-2021 12:30 AM)SammyH Wrote:  
(08-23-2021 07:47 PM)KINGALLISON Wrote:  
(08-22-2021 12:11 PM)SammyH Wrote:  
(08-22-2021 11:33 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  
(08-22-2021 09:17 AM)SammyH Wrote:  “Until proven otherwise” ya like last year when NMSU went 7-6 in conference play?

Basically what I’m hearing is NMSU is SFA without the tournament success.

Then your ears are plugged but I suspect the problem is between the eardrums... obtuse

NMSU has been to 25 NCAA tournaments with 5 sweet sixteens and 1 Final four. Stephen F. Austin has only been to 5 NCAA tournaments , with 2 Round of 32 appearances. If you want to argue recency, then yes SFA made it out of the 1st round twice since NMSU last Sweet Sixteen appearance. But keep in mind, outside of Cincinnati, Temple, and BYU, no Non-Power 6 school (the Power 5 + the Big East) has gone to the NCAA tournament more times than NMSU; 25 total and 7 times in the last 10 years. NMSU is a tough out if a conference member wants/expects to go to the NCAA tourney. And, you can mention NMSU 3rd place finish last season all you want but we all know as Aggie fans, it was marred by COVID. GCU might have very well won the WAC last season anyway but it would have been a much tougher obstacle in the Championship game if NMSU hadn't had two almost one month stoppages (playing only one game between December 1st and January 25th) last season. Jans lost a lot of time to develop his players and team chemistry. If this is a fairly normal basketball season, NMSU will be a juggernaut in the WAC come March.
If you think I’m about to read all that to learn what NMSU did pre-1970, you’re out of your mind sir!


Sam Houston basketball program isn't even on the level as New Mexico State so not sure why you're even speaking man.
I’m speaking because NMSU fans are claiming P5 schools are scared to schedule them. No P5 schools are scared to schedule the third place team in the 27th ranked conference in the country. Hope this helps you understand.

Being better than SHSU’s sorry program isn’t much of an accomplishment, but you can run with it. I was hoping we’d join a strong basketball conference eventually and see some improvements, but we moved to the WAC.

I never said they were scared, I said NMSU was having trouble scheduling P-5's because they didn't want the smoke, which is true according to our AD. I'm pretty sure he knows a lot more then you do.
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Interesting to me that Chicago State is playing St. Thomas in the first game of the season, in what will presumably be St. Thomas' first D1 game. Can't help but think that St. Thomas scheduled that looking for a strong start.
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(08-24-2021 04:15 PM)KINGALLISON Wrote:  
(08-24-2021 12:30 AM)SammyH Wrote:  
(08-23-2021 07:47 PM)KINGALLISON Wrote:  
(08-22-2021 12:11 PM)SammyH Wrote:  
(08-22-2021 11:33 AM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  Then your ears are plugged but I suspect the problem is between the eardrums... obtuse

NMSU has been to 25 NCAA tournaments with 5 sweet sixteens and 1 Final four. Stephen F. Austin has only been to 5 NCAA tournaments , with 2 Round of 32 appearances. If you want to argue recency, then yes SFA made it out of the 1st round twice since NMSU last Sweet Sixteen appearance. But keep in mind, outside of Cincinnati, Temple, and BYU, no Non-Power 6 school (the Power 5 + the Big East) has gone to the NCAA tournament more times than NMSU; 25 total and 7 times in the last 10 years. NMSU is a tough out if a conference member wants/expects to go to the NCAA tourney. And, you can mention NMSU 3rd place finish last season all you want but we all know as Aggie fans, it was marred by COVID. GCU might have very well won the WAC last season anyway but it would have been a much tougher obstacle in the Championship game if NMSU hadn't had two almost one month stoppages (playing only one game between December 1st and January 25th) last season. Jans lost a lot of time to develop his players and team chemistry. If this is a fairly normal basketball season, NMSU will be a juggernaut in the WAC come March.
If you think I’m about to read all that to learn what NMSU did pre-1970, you’re out of your mind sir!


Sam Houston basketball program isn't even on the level as New Mexico State so not sure why you're even speaking man.
I’m speaking because NMSU fans are claiming P5 schools are scared to schedule them. No P5 schools are scared to schedule the third place team in the 27th ranked conference in the country. Hope this helps you understand.

Being better than SHSU’s sorry program isn’t much of an accomplishment, but you can run with it. I was hoping we’d join a strong basketball conference eventually and see some improvements, but we moved to the WAC.

I never said they were scared, I said NMSU was having trouble scheduling P-5's because they didn't want the smoke, which is true according to our AD. I'm pretty sure he knows a lot more then you do.
He doesn’t.
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(08-24-2021 04:00 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(08-24-2021 03:44 PM)SammyH Wrote:  
(08-24-2021 03:30 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(08-24-2021 03:19 PM)SammyH Wrote:  
(08-24-2021 12:54 PM)DZ1 Wrote:  Even though you seem to be just trolling or are genuinely obtuse as Pistol says, I will agree with you that the WAC has not done well the past few years. However, we should see improvement with the addition of the Texas 4 and Southern Utah plus the loss of Chicago State.
Below is a list of the WAC's standing among the 32 conferences since NMSU joined in 2006 (according to KenPom). Southland's ranking is in parenthesis. While you might argue that the WAC is not a good conference, it is hard to argue that the Texas 4 took a step down by joining the WAC, at least when it comes to men's basketball.
Second, since GCU has joined the WAC in 2014, NMSU has been the team to beat. They have finished with a top 100 ranking in KenPom 6 out of those 9 years with last year (ranked 150) being their lowest. Typically, P5 schools do not want to play mid-major schools ranked between 70 to 150 (especially on the mid-majors home court) since there is a legitimate chance they may lose the OOC game which may cost them an NCAA tournament invite down the road.
Okay, I have made my case. Not much more I can do. If you still feel the WAC is a low-major and NMSU is not a team the P5 schools would try to avoid, then I guess we will just need to agree to disagree.

Year WAC (Southland)
2021 23rd (30th) - end of WAC 2.0
2020 24th (28th)
2019 17th (29th)
2018 18th (28th)
2017 17th (27th)
2016 24th (29th)
2015 31st (30th) -
2014 22nd (29th) - transition to WAC 2.0
2013 13th (26th) - end of WAC 1.0
2012 12th (27th)
2011 14th (28th)
2010 11th (23rd)
2009 12th (18th)
2008 17th (22nd)
2007 9th (25th)
2006 10th (20th)
You preface this by saying I’m trolling or stupid, then agree with me? Not a good look.

Maybe you’ve misconstrued my complaints about the WAC as me wanting to stay in the Southland? I’m fine with leaving. I’ve come around to it, specifically in basketball, and understand that WAC basketball is better than the Southland. Both conferences are low majors, although as you point out one is certainly better. What’s infuriating about this is that we had an offer on the table to move to a conference that’s INCREDIBLY similar to (if not better than) the WAC in the big $$ making sport, and is significantly better in the sports that SHSU is historically competitive in.

Not that the ASUN isn’t also a low major. It is. Just like the WAC. And just like the Southland.

I am not sure why you think the ASUN is a better basketball conference - It is Liberty and the occasional team that makes a run. The Top of the WAC is far more consistent and supported than new look ASUN. Adding SFA to either conference would be a bonus
Because the ASUN had a higher RPI last year? Regardless, there’s no denying that the two are similar basketball leagues.

Barely ahead. One place, and a minor difference. Not really enough to make a difference.
Okay dbackjon, fine. The ASUN is comparatively equal in every sense to the WAC in basketball, while lagging being significantly in football and lagging behind slightly less in baseball. I truly hope you can sleep better at night.
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(08-24-2021 05:01 PM)SammyH Wrote:  
(08-24-2021 04:00 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(08-24-2021 03:44 PM)SammyH Wrote:  
(08-24-2021 03:30 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(08-24-2021 03:19 PM)SammyH Wrote:  You preface this by saying I’m trolling or stupid, then agree with me? Not a good look.

Maybe you’ve misconstrued my complaints about the WAC as me wanting to stay in the Southland? I’m fine with leaving. I’ve come around to it, specifically in basketball, and understand that WAC basketball is better than the Southland. Both conferences are low majors, although as you point out one is certainly better. What’s infuriating about this is that we had an offer on the table to move to a conference that’s INCREDIBLY similar to (if not better than) the WAC in the big $$ making sport, and is significantly better in the sports that SHSU is historically competitive in.

Not that the ASUN isn’t also a low major. It is. Just like the WAC. And just like the Southland.

I am not sure why you think the ASUN is a better basketball conference - It is Liberty and the occasional team that makes a run. The Top of the WAC is far more consistent and supported than new look ASUN. Adding SFA to either conference would be a bonus
Because the ASUN had a higher RPI last year? Regardless, there’s no denying that the two are similar basketball leagues.

Barely ahead. One place, and a minor difference. Not really enough to make a difference.
Okay dbackjon, fine. The ASUN is comparatively equal in every sense to the WAC in basketball, while lagging being significantly in football and lagging behind slightly less in baseball. I truly hope you can sleep better at night.
I don't have a dog in the fight, but you are not giving the new conference enough credit.
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A little more clarity

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UC - San Diego @ Seattle; likely the beginning of a home-and-home?

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(08-24-2021 04:59 PM)SammyH Wrote:  
(08-24-2021 04:15 PM)KINGALLISON Wrote:  
(08-24-2021 12:30 AM)SammyH Wrote:  
(08-23-2021 07:47 PM)KINGALLISON Wrote:  
(08-22-2021 12:11 PM)SammyH Wrote:  If you think I’m about to read all that to learn what NMSU did pre-1970, you’re out of your mind sir!


Sam Houston basketball program isn't even on the level as New Mexico State so not sure why you're even speaking man.
I’m speaking because NMSU fans are claiming P5 schools are scared to schedule them. No P5 schools are scared to schedule the third place team in the 27th ranked conference in the country. Hope this helps you understand.

Being better than SHSU’s sorry program isn’t much of an accomplishment, but you can run with it. I was hoping we’d join a strong basketball conference eventually and see some improvements, but we moved to the WAC.

I never said they were scared, I said NMSU was having trouble scheduling P-5's because they didn't want the smoke, which is true according to our AD. I'm pretty sure he knows a lot more then you do.
He doesn’t.

I'm pretty sure he does, since he makes the schedule. It's you who don't know chit. You're just a troll.
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Some women's games...







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https://www.thehrr.com/NCAAW/News_and_in...edule.html
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Grand Canyon!



Going to presume that the below four games are start of two-year home-and-home agreements; can't imagine North Florida is anything more than a 'buy game'...???
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Not sure what this 'Van Chancellor Classic' is as I have not seen much on it, but sounds like it's three days of great women's basketball. Believe Old Dominion is in it as well though not playing Ball State who happens to play SFA...

Under Sallee, the Cardinals have participated in many tournaments across the country like Las Vegas, Nev., Boulder, Colo., Savannah, Ga., Estero, Fla., Albuquerque, N.M. and the Bahamas. This year BSU will spend its Thanksgiving holiday at the Van Chancellor Classic in Katy, Texas where the Cardinals will face Texas Tech (Nov. 26), Stephen F. Austin (Nov. 27) and Saint Joseph's (Nov. 28).

https://ballstatesports.com/news/2021/8/...edule.aspx
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Dixie State has released their slate

The Dixie State women have too as has Grand Canyon
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(08-27-2021 03:42 PM)TexasTerror Wrote:  Dixie State has released their slate

The Dixie State women have too as has Grand Canyon

GCU Men's schedule can be found here along with an article discussing it. I found it interesting that the games between NMSU were not even mentioned once in the article. I hope GCU is not foolishly overlooking the Aggies. The was an emphasis on the new teams in the WAC so perhaps there was no space to mention our main rivals. Hmm....
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