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11 years with Wilder could spell 11 yeas with JJ. Thanks Woodie! Maybe Woodie time as AD should also terminate, as quickly as possible. How do you bring a 10-21 team at American, to be head coach at ODU, It's call the buddy system
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(01-29-2021 10:58 AM)bluelight Wrote:  11 years with Wilder could spell 11 yeas with JJ. Thanks Woodie! Maybe Woodie time as AD should also terminate, as quickly as possible. How do you bring a 10-21 team at American, to be head coach at ODU, It's call the buddy system

That same person turned a 5-25 ODU team into 18-18.
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(01-29-2021 11:13 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(01-29-2021 10:58 AM)bluelight Wrote:  11 years with Wilder could spell 11 yeas with JJ. Thanks Woodie! Maybe Woodie time as AD should also terminate, as quickly as possible. How do you bring a 10-21 team at American, to be head coach at ODU, It's call the buddy system

That same person turned a 5-25 ODU team into 18-18.

1. That was nearly a decade ago
2. We all know that team was much closer to an 18-18 team than a 5-25 team under normal circumstances.
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RE: wilder's cantract
(01-29-2021 11:13 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(01-29-2021 10:58 AM)bluelight Wrote:  11 years with Wilder could spell 11 yeas with JJ. Thanks Woodie! Maybe Woodie time as AD should also terminate, as quickly as possible. How do you bring a 10-21 team at American, to be head coach at ODU, It's call the buddy system

That same person turned a 5-25 ODU team into 18-18.

Do we know what Wood's marching orders were? He was not spending a lot on salary, his choice, Broderick's choice? Who knows. ODU has always run a clean program so coaches that had questionable things or NCAA infractions on their resume were not an option. I guess the long story short is we all were not in the interviews nor were we part of the hiring process, so it is easy for us to complain and second guess the hire, but perhaps JJ was the best option at the time. Doesn't mean we need to keep him around, but perhaps he was the only viable option at the time.
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(01-29-2021 12:44 PM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  
(01-29-2021 11:13 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(01-29-2021 10:58 AM)bluelight Wrote:  11 years with Wilder could spell 11 yeas with JJ. Thanks Woodie! Maybe Woodie time as AD should also terminate, as quickly as possible. How do you bring a 10-21 team at American, to be head coach at ODU, It's call the buddy system

That same person turned a 5-25 ODU team into 18-18.

Do we know what Wood's marching orders were? He was not spending a lot on salary, his choice, Broderick's choice? Who knows. ODU has always run a clean program so coaches that had questionable things or NCAA infractions on their resume were not an option. I guess the long story short is we all were not in the interviews nor were we part of the hiring process, so it is easy for us to complain and second guess the hire, but perhaps JJ was the best option at the time. Doesn't mean we need to keep him around, but perhaps he was the only viable option at the time.

I am not sure what exactly happened, but we definitely know that JJ was not our first choice, and that they seemed prepared to pay significantly more money at the outset of the search than they ended up paying JJ. At the time I knew someone in the AD at the Associate AD level who was as surprised and taken aback when JJ was hired as I was.
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RE: wilder's cantract
(01-29-2021 11:50 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(01-29-2021 11:13 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(01-29-2021 10:58 AM)bluelight Wrote:  11 years with Wilder could spell 11 yeas with JJ. Thanks Woodie! Maybe Woodie time as AD should also terminate, as quickly as possible. How do you bring a 10-21 team at American, to be head coach at ODU, It's call the buddy system

That same person turned a 5-25 ODU team into 18-18.

1. That was nearly a decade ago
2. We all know that team was much closer to an 18-18 team than a 5-25 team under normal circumstances.

1. Yes. But, he's bringing up a record from nearly a decade ago as well. So , whether or not you believe JJ should be gone; he did rebound our program from true hardships.

2. No we don't. Some like to say that but that squad was awful.
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RE: wilder's cantract
(01-29-2021 11:13 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(01-29-2021 10:58 AM)bluelight Wrote:  11 years with Wilder could spell 11 yeas with JJ. Thanks Woodie! Maybe Woodie time as AD should also terminate, as quickly as possible. How do you bring a 10-21 team at American, to be head coach at ODU, It's call the buddy system

That same person turned a 5-25 ODU team into 18-18.

Very weak basketball league and BT did beat UVA
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RE: wilder's cantract
(01-29-2021 11:13 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(01-29-2021 10:58 AM)bluelight Wrote:  11 years with Wilder could spell 11 yeas with JJ. Thanks Woodie! Maybe Woodie time as AD should also terminate, as quickly as possible. How do you bring a 10-21 team at American, to be head coach at ODU, It's call the buddy system

That same person turned a 5-25 ODU team into 18-18.

JJ's schedule has always been very easy in a soft league, and OOC
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(01-29-2021 01:40 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(01-29-2021 11:50 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(01-29-2021 11:13 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(01-29-2021 10:58 AM)bluelight Wrote:  11 years with Wilder could spell 11 yeas with JJ. Thanks Woodie! Maybe Woodie time as AD should also terminate, as quickly as possible. How do you bring a 10-21 team at American, to be head coach at ODU, It's call the buddy system

That same person turned a 5-25 ODU team into 18-18.

1. That was nearly a decade ago
2. We all know that team was much closer to an 18-18 team than a 5-25 team under normal circumstances.

1. Yes. But, he's bringing up a record from nearly a decade ago as well. So , whether or not you believe JJ should be gone; he did rebound our program from true hardships.

2. No we don't. Some like to say that but that squad was awful.

Yes we were 5-25 but we beat UVA that year!
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RE: wilder's cantract
(02-04-2021 07:21 PM)bluelight Wrote:  
(01-29-2021 01:40 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(01-29-2021 11:50 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(01-29-2021 11:13 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(01-29-2021 10:58 AM)bluelight Wrote:  11 years with Wilder could spell 11 yeas with JJ. Thanks Woodie! Maybe Woodie time as AD should also terminate, as quickly as possible. How do you bring a 10-21 team at American, to be head coach at ODU, It's call the buddy system

That same person turned a 5-25 ODU team into 18-18.

1. That was nearly a decade ago
2. We all know that team was much closer to an 18-18 team than a 5-25 team under normal circumstances.

1. Yes. But, he's bringing up a record from nearly a decade ago as well. So , whether or not you believe JJ should be gone; he did rebound our program from true hardships.

2. No we don't. Some like to say that but that squad was awful.

Yes we were 5-25 but we beat UVA that year!

What was Jim's record after Blaine was fired? 0.500? Just asking...
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RE: wilder's cantract
(02-05-2021 11:10 AM)ODUODUODU Wrote:  
(02-04-2021 07:21 PM)bluelight Wrote:  
(01-29-2021 01:40 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(01-29-2021 11:50 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(01-29-2021 11:13 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  That same person turned a 5-25 ODU team into 18-18.

1. That was nearly a decade ago
2. We all know that team was much closer to an 18-18 team than a 5-25 team under normal circumstances.

1. Yes. But, he's bringing up a record from nearly a decade ago as well. So , whether or not you believe JJ should be gone; he did rebound our program from true hardships.

2. No we don't. Some like to say that but that squad was awful.

Yes we were 5-25 but we beat UVA that year!

What was Jim's record after Blaine was fired? 0.500? Just asking...

3-5, with wins over Drexel (13-18), UNCW (10-20) and Northeastern (20-13).
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(02-04-2021 07:21 PM)bluelight Wrote:  
(01-29-2021 01:40 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(01-29-2021 11:50 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(01-29-2021 11:13 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(01-29-2021 10:58 AM)bluelight Wrote:  11 years with Wilder could spell 11 yeas with JJ. Thanks Woodie! Maybe Woodie time as AD should also terminate, as quickly as possible. How do you bring a 10-21 team at American, to be head coach at ODU, It's call the buddy system

That same person turned a 5-25 ODU team into 18-18.

1. That was nearly a decade ago
2. We all know that team was much closer to an 18-18 team than a 5-25 team under normal circumstances.

1. Yes. But, he's bringing up a record from nearly a decade ago as well. So , whether or not you believe JJ should be gone; he did rebound our program from true hardships.

2. No we don't. Some like to say that but that squad was awful.

Yes we were 5-25 but we beat UVA that year!

So did GMU and Delaware.
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RE: wilder's cantract
(02-05-2021 11:43 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(02-04-2021 07:21 PM)bluelight Wrote:  
(01-29-2021 01:40 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(01-29-2021 11:50 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(01-29-2021 11:13 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  That same person turned a 5-25 ODU team into 18-18.

1. That was nearly a decade ago
2. We all know that team was much closer to an 18-18 team than a 5-25 team under normal circumstances.

1. Yes. But, he's bringing up a record from nearly a decade ago as well. So , whether or not you believe JJ should be gone; he did rebound our program from true hardships.

2. No we don't. Some like to say that but that squad was awful.

Yes we were 5-25 but we beat UVA that year!

So did GMU and Delaware.
Ouch. I don't remember that, although I'm not sure I knew it at the time. It does seem to tarnish the win a little. I believe a team is what their record says they are. Did they have the potential to be better? Sure, but other than against UVA they weren't. You can blame the coach and not the players if you want but I don't think it's that simple.
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(02-05-2021 12:08 PM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  
(02-05-2021 11:43 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(02-04-2021 07:21 PM)bluelight Wrote:  
(01-29-2021 01:40 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(01-29-2021 11:50 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  1. That was nearly a decade ago
2. We all know that team was much closer to an 18-18 team than a 5-25 team under normal circumstances.

1. Yes. But, he's bringing up a record from nearly a decade ago as well. So , whether or not you believe JJ should be gone; he did rebound our program from true hardships.

2. No we don't. Some like to say that but that squad was awful.

Yes we were 5-25 but we beat UVA that year!

So did GMU and Delaware.
Ouch. I don't remember that, although I'm not sure I knew it at the time. It does seem to tarnish the win a little. I believe a team is what their record says they are. Did they have the potential to be better? Sure, but other than against UVA they weren't. You can blame the coach and not the players if you want but I don't think it's that simple.

This is true in most cases. But in this one, you can put it on all on the coach.

He was coming to practice drunk. This wasn't great for the morale of the team and did little to help them prepare and became a major distraction. He offered zero direction and no gameplanning. And then it started to happen at games.

With the complete lack of coaching going on, they were essentially an AAU team that year playing against D1 competition. Not a great mix.
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RE: wilder's cantract
(02-05-2021 12:44 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  
(02-05-2021 12:08 PM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  
(02-05-2021 11:43 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(02-04-2021 07:21 PM)bluelight Wrote:  
(01-29-2021 01:40 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  1. Yes. But, he's bringing up a record from nearly a decade ago as well. So , whether or not you believe JJ should be gone; he did rebound our program from true hardships.

2. No we don't. Some like to say that but that squad was awful.

Yes we were 5-25 but we beat UVA that year!

So did GMU and Delaware.
Ouch. I don't remember that, although I'm not sure I knew it at the time. It does seem to tarnish the win a little. I believe a team is what their record says they are. Did they have the potential to be better? Sure, but other than against UVA they weren't. You can blame the coach and not the players if you want but I don't think it's that simple.

This is true in most cases. But in this one, you can put it on all on the coach.

He was coming to practice drunk. This wasn't great for the morale of the team and did little to help them prepare and became a major distraction. He offered zero direction and no gameplanning. And then it started to happen at games.

With the complete lack of coaching going on, they were essentially an AAU team that year playing against D1 competition. Not a great mix.

I think so and doubling our total wins in the next few games have he left shows that with a little direction they could have been much better. That wasn't a great team but not a 5 win team either.
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