(01-21-2021 03:33 PM)smudge12 Wrote:  

(01-21-2021 03:03 PM)No2rdame Wrote:  

(01-21-2021 02:39 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  This shouldn't be that difficult. If you were born with a p-en-is, then your pronouns are he/him/his. If you were born with a va-JJ then your pronouns are she/her/hers. Very simple. So simple, kids just learning to speak the English language understand it.

Yep. Born with an outie? You're a boy. Innie? You're a girl. So simple even a caveman can do it.

The objective science is that human beings can be intersex, have multiple sexes, or even be non-binary. This is now fact in the study of cytogenetics.

The discovery of these chromosome variations is very new and we are the first generations of human to know about them. The only thing all of human history has ever known were male and female, so I understand why the sudden emergence of multiple (or no) genders is a weird idea to accept.

But that's how science works: it challenges our ideas with objective facts.

When a she can copulate with another she, or a he with another he and create a human being then I'll believe your bullSchiff. But, not until then...and I'm not talking about getting a male sperm from a bank or a baby from an orphanage.

(01-21-2021 03:36 PM)fsquid Wrote:  King/sir

I thought you would prefer god-king most high.

(01-21-2021 03:52 PM)smudge12 Wrote:  

(01-21-2021 03:37 PM)No2rdame Wrote:  Do your objective facts point out that chromosomal abnormalities of the sex genes are exceedingly rare and most of this whole "gender spectrum" garbage is just a bunch of people that want to pretend they're something they're not?

I don't know these people to decide what pronoun they are. If someone says they're a "she" or "he" or "they" or "non-binary" or whatever, I'm not going to act as medical gestapo and figure out what chromosome variation they are. But people who do have the variations should have options to say they're not male or female, and if others want to identify with it too, I don't really care.

This is America after all...you have the right to pursue happiness if it doesn't infringe on my Constitutional rights.

Its my constitutional right not to accept someone's idiotic mutilation of Webster's dictionary.

(01-21-2021 05:58 PM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  

(01-21-2021 05:16 PM)banker Wrote:  So a million to one genetic disorder is a good reason to change the English language? Good to know.

Which "genetic disorder" do you mean? Klinefelter syndrome alone is 1 in 650 boys.

Who are still totally boys. Not something in-between. They just have an extra X, which may or may not cause them difficulties. But it doesn't make them girls.

(01-21-2021 03:33 PM)smudge12 Wrote:  

(01-21-2021 03:03 PM)No2rdame Wrote:  

(01-21-2021 02:39 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  This shouldn't be that difficult. If you were born with a p-en-is, then your pronouns are he/him/his. If you were born with a va-JJ then your pronouns are she/her/hers. Very simple. So simple, kids just learning to speak the English language understand it.

Yep. Born with an outie? You're a boy. Innie? You're a girl. So simple even a caveman can do it.

The objective science is that human beings can be intersex, have multiple sexes, or even be non-binary. This is now fact in the study of cytogenetics.

The discovery of these chromosome variations is very new and we are the first generations of human to know about them. The only thing all of human history has ever known were male and female, so I understand why the sudden emergence of multiple (or no) genders is a weird idea to accept.

But that's how science works: it challenges our ideas with objective facts.

"chromosome variations" is certainly not objective. That's a vague way of discussing how unusual (abnormal) levels of hormones affects those chromosomes during fetal development. Certainly there are variations, but it is not an objective fact that it is normal.

If something is caused by abnormal levels of hormones we call that pathology/pathophysiology. We certainly aren't arguing if Trisomy or Klinfelters is normal because they have an abnormal chromosome number. That doesn't mean that "variations" in normal chromosomes due to abnormal hormone levels is normal either.

(01-21-2021 09:19 PM)bullet Wrote:  Its my constitutional right not to accept someone's idiotic mutilation of Webster's dictionary.

This

Now, I personally have never run across one of these misguided confused freaks. However, if I do and it appears to be a woman, then I’ll call her female pronouns. If it seems to be male, then I’ll say male pronouns. If it’s Rachel Maddow and therefore a coin flip, I’ll just point and laugh.