With bluebloods like Duke, Kentucky and North Carolina all appearing rather ordinary this year, one has to wonder. How much has COVID impacted college basketball recruiting? How much will changes to the G League (or whatever its called now) impact it? Or will NIL legislation give one and done a new life?

I think the one and done era will only officially be done until the NBA changes its draft rules, and/or the NIL officially takes effect. This year is incredibly unique for a variety of reasons. While this year's champion will be celebrated and remembered as such, I think the masses will overlook all of the teams that struggled this year and simply chalk it up to the COVID-related circumstance. The reality that we do have college basketball this year, albeit in a modified and limited form, is the highlighted success. I'd imagine Duke, Kentucky, UNC, etc. will be back to themselves next year, with a number of one-and-dones, and with an entire summer and preseason together for development and team-building reasons.

There was a discussion on one of the Sirius Channels. They were saying this year was unique because of the limited time. The coaches had to pick and choose what to teach. It was a huge advantage for experienced teams who knew how to get open, how to move the ball, how to bounce back after negative plays....

They simply have not had the time to build a group of freshmen who never played together before. In basketball it makes a big difference when you know where your teammates will be and what they will do.

As said above, until the NBA changes its rules, the blue uniformed bluebloods (UK, KU, UNC, Duke) will continue to heavily use one and dones.

(01-20-2021 10:21 AM)bullet Wrote:  There was a discussion on one of the Sirius Channels. They were saying this year was unique because of the limited time. The coaches had to pick and choose what to teach. It was a huge advantage for experienced teams who knew how to get open, how to move the ball, how to bounce back after negative plays....

They simply have not had the time to build a group of freshmen who never played together before. In basketball it makes a big difference when you know where your teammates will be and what they will do.

As said above, until the NBA changes its rules, the blue uniformed bluebloods (UK, KU, UNC, Duke) will continue to heavily use one and dones.

Yes, and not only that, the season isn't over. We've seen in the past that sometimes these one-and-done teams look bad early, but then gel as the season progresses, such that by tournament time, it's "watch out".

I would not put it past UNC, Duke or even Kentucky to pull it together and make a run in March.

(01-20-2021 10:25 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-20-2021 10:21 AM)bullet Wrote:  There was a discussion on one of the Sirius Channels. They were saying this year was unique because of the limited time. The coaches had to pick and choose what to teach. It was a huge advantage for experienced teams who knew how to get open, how to move the ball, how to bounce back after negative plays....

They simply have not had the time to build a group of freshmen who never played together before. In basketball it makes a big difference when you know where your teammates will be and what they will do.

As said above, until the NBA changes its rules, the blue uniformed bluebloods (UK, KU, UNC, Duke) will continue to heavily use one and dones.

Yes, and not only that, the season isn't over. We've seen in the past that sometimes these one-and-done teams look bad early, but then gel as the season progresses, such that by tournament time, it's "watch out".

I would not put it past UNC, Duke or even Kentucky to pull it together and make a run in March.

Kentucky has the worst overall record in the SEC, but is one of 4 teams with 2 losses in conference play, behind only unbeaten Alabama.

(01-20-2021 10:34 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-20-2021 10:25 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-20-2021 10:21 AM)bullet Wrote:  There was a discussion on one of the Sirius Channels. They were saying this year was unique because of the limited time. The coaches had to pick and choose what to teach. It was a huge advantage for experienced teams who knew how to get open, how to move the ball, how to bounce back after negative plays....

They simply have not had the time to build a group of freshmen who never played together before. In basketball it makes a big difference when you know where your teammates will be and what they will do.

As said above, until the NBA changes its rules, the blue uniformed bluebloods (UK, KU, UNC, Duke) will continue to heavily use one and dones.

Yes, and not only that, the season isn't over. We've seen in the past that sometimes these one-and-done teams look bad early, but then gel as the season progresses, such that by tournament time, it's "watch out".

I would not put it past UNC, Duke or even Kentucky to pull it together and make a run in March.

Kentucky has the worst overall record in the SEC, but is one of 4 teams with 2 losses in conference play, behind only unbeaten Alabama.

UK will be dangerous in March. I wouldn't count them out.

(01-20-2021 09:24 AM)ken d Wrote:  With bluebloods like Duke, Kentucky and North Carolina all appearing rather ordinary this year, one has to wonder. How much has COVID impacted college basketball recruiting? How much will changes to the G League (or whatever its called now) impact it? Or will NIL legislation give one and done a new life?

Given the unique and multiple circumstances, it would be interesting to know for this past year, and the current one, if recruiting results will show a gravitation toward more local, state, and regional campuses.

(01-20-2021 11:06 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-20-2021 10:34 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-20-2021 10:25 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-20-2021 10:21 AM)bullet Wrote:  There was a discussion on one of the Sirius Channels. They were saying this year was unique because of the limited time. The coaches had to pick and choose what to teach. It was a huge advantage for experienced teams who knew how to get open, how to move the ball, how to bounce back after negative plays....

They simply have not had the time to build a group of freshmen who never played together before. In basketball it makes a big difference when you know where your teammates will be and what they will do.

As said above, until the NBA changes its rules, the blue uniformed bluebloods (UK, KU, UNC, Duke) will continue to heavily use one and dones.

Yes, and not only that, the season isn't over. We've seen in the past that sometimes these one-and-done teams look bad early, but then gel as the season progresses, such that by tournament time, it's "watch out".

I would not put it past UNC, Duke or even Kentucky to pull it together and make a run in March.

Kentucky has the worst overall record in the SEC, but is one of 4 teams with 2 losses in conference play, behind only unbeaten Alabama.

UK will be dangerous in March. I wouldn't count them out.

Depends on whether those freshmen can get their heads on straight. No guarantee of that. They probably aren't used to losing. Neither are UK fans. One losing season since before Adolph Rupp started in the 20s. (1920s!).

(01-20-2021 09:24 AM)ken d Wrote:  With bluebloods like Duke, Kentucky and North Carolina all appearing rather ordinary this year, one has to wonder. How much has COVID impacted college basketball recruiting? How much will changes to the G League (or whatever its called now) impact it? Or will NIL legislation give one and done a new life?

Given the unique and multiple circumstances, it would be interesting to know for this past year, and the current one, if recruiting results will show a gravitation toward more local, state, and regional campuses.

It depends on how much players can make from the NIL to be honest. The NCAA already can be viewed more on TV then G league games can. It might be worth staying in 2-3 years if a player can avoid a lot of G league time and potentially make more money then in the G league. (Assuming scholarships are counted as income for housing and the like) the G league may turn into the home of the FA or undrafted. Players who don't make enough money in the NIL could be one and done or go directly overseas.

(01-20-2021 10:25 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(01-20-2021 10:21 AM)bullet Wrote:  There was a discussion on one of the Sirius Channels. They were saying this year was unique because of the limited time. The coaches had to pick and choose what to teach. It was a huge advantage for experienced teams who knew how to get open, how to move the ball, how to bounce back after negative plays....

They simply have not had the time to build a group of freshmen who never played together before. In basketball it makes a big difference when you know where your teammates will be and what they will do.

As said above, until the NBA changes its rules, the blue uniformed bluebloods (UK, KU, UNC, Duke) will continue to heavily use one and dones.

Yes, and not only that, the season isn't over. We've seen in the past that sometimes these one-and-done teams look bad early, but then gel as the season progresses, such that by tournament time, it's "watch out".

I would not put it past UNC, Duke or even Kentucky to pull it together and make a run in March.

Duke will ramp up the cheating in March.

(01-20-2021 01:28 PM)46566 Wrote:  It depends on how much players can make from the NIL to be honest. The NCAA already can be viewed more on TV then G league games can.

That's not the most important issue with college hoops vs. overseas or the G League. Whether a player can make more money in a year or two one way or the other is a short-term issue. The long-term issue is, which way will turn out to be more likely to propel a player into a long NBA career that pays far more than any college Nike endorsement or G League salary.

Europe or Australia might be the best path for players who are potentially good enough out of high school to be lottery picks within a year or two. LaMelo Ball was the third pick in the draft after playing well in Australia and is playing well as an NBA rookie. Luka Doncic is even better, and playing for a couple of years in EuroLeague was huge for him, because EuroLeague is much closer in competition level to the NBA than college basketball is.

Scoochoo: for example?

(01-20-2021 09:24 AM)ken d Wrote:  With bluebloods like Duke, Kentucky and North Carolina all appearing rather ordinary this year, one has to wonder. How much has COVID impacted college basketball recruiting? How much will changes to the G League (or whatever its called now) impact it? Or will NIL legislation give one and done a new life?

Greed, pure and simple.
Kids are being bred to play football and basketball with the idea of cashing in on athletic ability.
College coaches spend most of their time trying to get players to unlearn what they have been taught earlier.
Carolina's last championship team was comprised of "lesser" players that stayed in the program for multiple years, instead of players that have only enrolled to be seen on TV and secure larger contracts by showing their skills rather that learning to play on a team.
Athletics are just a reflection of the country as a whole........we're going the way of the Roman Empire.

(01-21-2021 06:02 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(01-20-2021 09:24 AM)ken d Wrote:  With bluebloods like Duke, Kentucky and North Carolina all appearing rather ordinary this year, one has to wonder. How much has COVID impacted college basketball recruiting? How much will changes to the G League (or whatever its called now) impact it? Or will NIL legislation give one and done a new life?

Greed, pure and simple.
Kids are being bred to play football and basketball with the idea of cashing in on athletic ability.
College coaches spend most of their time trying to get players to unlearn what they have been taught earlier.
Carolina's last championship team was comprised of "lesser" players that stayed in the program for multiple years, instead of players that have only enrolled to be seen on TV and secure larger contracts by showing their skills rather that learning to play on a team.
Athletics are just a reflection of the country as a whole........we're going the way of the Roman Empire.

Yep. True!