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RE: Election Update from Arizona
(02-25-2021 10:12 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Simply recounting already counted votes is idiotic

You find a source yet for your claim that 6% rejected ballots is the normal rate?
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RE: Election Update from Arizona
(02-25-2021 10:12 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Simply recounting already counted votes is idiotic

Can you even read?

That was only a tiny portion of what one of these firms did.

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RE: Election Update from Arizona
(02-25-2021 11:30 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-25-2021 10:12 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Simply recounting already counted votes is idiotic

Can you even read?

That was only a tiny portion of what one of these firms did.

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RE: Election Update from Arizona
https://www.theepochtimes.com/where-do-w...ce=partner

This is why we need to continue to fight the distortions of the law in the 2020 election.

"...The cases concern who makes the election rules: state legislators, or nonlegislative officials, including judges. The Constitution would seem to indicate the former, given that it’s state legislatures tasked with determining the “The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives,” as well as the “Manner” by which electors are appointed.

Yet Pennsylvania, like several other states who conferred the power to make the rules upon non-legislators, believed otherwise. As Justice Clarence Thomas recounted in his dissenting opinion:

“The Pennsylvania Legislature established an unambiguous deadline for receiving mail-in ballots: 8 p.m. on Election Day. Dissatisfied, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court extended that deadline by three days. The court also ordered officials to count ballots received by the new deadline even if there was no evidence—such as a postmark—that the ballots were mailed by Election Day.”

“These cases provide us,” Thomas asserted, “with an ideal opportunity to address just what authority nonlegislative officials have to set election rules, and to do so well before the next election cycle...."
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RE: Election Update from Arizona
(02-25-2021 12:07 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(02-25-2021 11:30 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-25-2021 10:12 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Simply recounting already counted votes is idiotic

Can you even read?

That was only a tiny portion of what one of these firms did.

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Another reason why I have clowns like this on ignore. They can't even do the slightest due diligence before resorting to childish idiocy. So what's the point to even trying to engage posters when they're just obtuse ********?

Did you even the read the article I linked?

Here's the only thing they did that involved ballots:

Quote:Pro V&V performed a logic and accuracy test on the voting machines to ensure the software "correctly captures, stores, consolidates, and reports the specific ballot selections and absences of selections for each ballot position."

Volunteers with the League of Women Voters scanned the ballots for this test, and election staff acted as poll workers if the volunteers had any issues.

The tests reviewed "1.5 million ballot positions," according to a county report, found "no evidence of vote switching" and "concluded that the equipment tabulated and adjudicated ballots accurately."

Pro V&V's report identified two times that a ballot jammed during the test, but no miscounted votes came from that.

Some questioned the depth of the county's audit, but the county has said that it was comprehensive and more in-depth than any previous audit it had done.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/pol...fsFzjySxfk

The rest of their audit dealt with stuff like verifying that source code had not changed and that machines were never connected to an internet nor were hacked.
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RE: Election Update from Arizona
(02-25-2021 01:41 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-25-2021 12:07 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(02-25-2021 11:30 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-25-2021 10:12 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Simply recounting already counted votes is idiotic

Can you even read?

That was only a tiny portion of what one of these firms did.

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Another reason why I have clowns like this on ignore. They can't even do the slightest due diligence before resorting to childish idiocy. So what's the point to even trying to engage posters when they're just obtuse ********?

Did you even the read the article I linked?

Here's the only thing they did that involved ballots:

Quote:Pro V&V performed a logic and accuracy test on the voting machines to ensure the software "correctly captures, stores, consolidates, and reports the specific ballot selections and absences of selections for each ballot position."

Volunteers with the League of Women Voters scanned the ballots for this test, and election staff acted as poll workers if the volunteers had any issues.

The tests reviewed "1.5 million ballot positions," according to a county report, found "no evidence of vote switching" and "concluded that the equipment tabulated and adjudicated ballots accurately."

Pro V&V's report identified two times that a ballot jammed during the test, but no miscounted votes came from that.

Some questioned the depth of the county's audit, but the county has said that it was comprehensive and more in-depth than any previous audit it had done.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/pol...fsFzjySxfk

The rest of their audit dealt with stuff like verifying that source code had not changed and that machines were never connected to an internet nor were hacked.

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RE: Election Update from Arizona
(02-25-2021 09:49 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(02-25-2021 09:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-25-2021 09:10 AM)Claw Wrote:  Great. Now turn it all over to the Senate and let them confirm the results independently. Then we are done - or not.

Did you read the story. There's next to no other firms qualified to do such an audit. The Senate would have a hard time finding anyone else to conduct it outside of these two firms.

And what would be the point? These firms don't work for anyone but themselves. Why would they both fabricate results?

Give it up...there still has to date not been one proven vote changed by a dominion machine in an election. Not. One.


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Again fool, from the linked article:

Quote:County officials also emphasized the importance of hiring independent firms to perform the audit.

The county hired the only two firms accredited by the U.S. Election Assistance Commission to certify voting machines across the country, with officials saying they were the only companies that could be trusted with looking at the machines and their source code.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/pol...fsFzjySxfk
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RE: Election Update from Arizona
(02-25-2021 01:42 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-25-2021 09:49 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(02-25-2021 09:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-25-2021 09:10 AM)Claw Wrote:  Great. Now turn it all over to the Senate and let them confirm the results independently. Then we are done - or not.

Did you read the story. There's next to no other firms qualified to do such an audit. The Senate would have a hard time finding anyone else to conduct it outside of these two firms.

And what would be the point? These firms don't work for anyone but themselves. Why would they both fabricate results?

Give it up...there still has to date not been one proven vote changed by a dominion machine in an election. Not. One.


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Again fool, from the linked article:

Quote:County officials also emphasized the importance of hiring independent firms to perform the audit.

The county hired the only two firms accredited by the U.S. Election Assistance Commission to certify voting machines across the country, with officials saying they were the only companies that could be trusted with looking at the machines and their source code.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/pol...fsFzjySxfk

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RE: Election Update from Arizona
Don't worry commietom, I'll put you back on ignore once this novelty wears off for me.
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RE: Election Update from Arizona
(02-25-2021 08:25 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(02-25-2021 07:40 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And as expected, the audits conducted by Maricopa County by two INDEPENDENT firms find that that the election equipment was sound.

Quote:The results of Maricopa County's independent audit of 2020 election results are in.

The verdict: The election was sound.

Maricopa County on Tuesday released the results of election audits from two independent auditors it hired to verify that voting machines were not hacked, were not connected to the internet and counted votes properly during the 2020 general election.

The auditors found that the county used certified equipment and software, no malicious hardware was found on voting machines, the machines were not connected to the internet, and the machines were programmed to tabulate ballots accurately, according to a letter from county election directors to the supervisors.

Quote:The supervisors hired the two outside firms, Pro V&V and SLI Compliance, to offer an independent look at the county's voting machines and election results.

Here is what the county-hired auditors examined and found in the two weeks they spent in Phoenix earlier this month:

Pro V&V performed another logic and accuracy test on the tabulation machines to see that the “system correctly captures, stores, consolidates, and reports the specific ballot selections, and absence of selections, for each ballot position."Pro V&V found no issues.

Both firms checked to see if the county is using certified hardware and software.The auditors inspected and verified the software and said it was certified.
The firms examined what's called “hash values” — the code that dictates how the machine functions — to see if they were the same as when the machines were certified. If the hash code is different, that may indicate tampering. No hash value discrepancies were noted.

The auditors also checked that hackers didn’t install any software or hardware onto the machines by running malware tests and opening up the machines. They also conducted a network analysis to “ensure the network is a ‘closed network’ and can’t reach the internet.” No malicious hardware and software discrepancies were identified, and the firms did not see any proof of internet connectivity.
The auditors examined all nine of the large tabulators that count ballots at the election center, a random selection of 20% of the county’s precinct-based tabulators and a random selection of 40% of the county’s adjudication stations. No issues were found with the machines.

Quote:SLI Compliance was much more thorough in the way it reported results, compared with Pro V&V. SLI Compliance called its audit a "forensic audit," while Pro V&V said its audit was a "field audit."

SLI Compliance's 18-page report shows every step that the auditors took, including a timeline of what was done each day.

SLI Compliance gave details on how it checked to see whether any connection was made to the internet on the machines from July 6 to Nov. 20.

This is key because some claimed that this could have been how votes could have been switched after the election — although previous audits had found no proof of vote switching.

This included checking whether there were any instances of the systems being connected to an internet-routed network, including manually inspecting system data, files, logs and settings.

One test found one log entry of a connection attempt on Aug. 26 — someone had attempted to search for how to adjust screen brightness. But the auditors did not find any evidence that the machine successfully connected to the internet, this time or any other time.

SLI Compliance also listed five malware programs, including a digital forensic tool, it ran to check whether malicious software had been installed — in other words, whether the machines had been hacked. The team also manually checked for any malware programs on the machines.

The auditors found no malware.
Maricopa County's 2020 election votes were counted correctly, more county audits show

Surprise, Surprise. Who could have expected that.

During an audit your don't audit yourself. I audit you. Or you audit me.

The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors knows this. And that's why they don't want a different body auditing them.


I bet Enron would have loved to have been able to audit itself.
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(02-25-2021 02:40 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(02-25-2021 08:25 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(02-25-2021 07:40 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  And as expected, the audits conducted by Maricopa County by two INDEPENDENT firms find that that the election equipment was sound.

Quote:The results of Maricopa County's independent audit of 2020 election results are in.

The verdict: The election was sound.

Maricopa County on Tuesday released the results of election audits from two independent auditors it hired to verify that voting machines were not hacked, were not connected to the internet and counted votes properly during the 2020 general election.

The auditors found that the county used certified equipment and software, no malicious hardware was found on voting machines, the machines were not connected to the internet, and the machines were programmed to tabulate ballots accurately, according to a letter from county election directors to the supervisors.

Quote:The supervisors hired the two outside firms, Pro V&V and SLI Compliance, to offer an independent look at the county's voting machines and election results.

Here is what the county-hired auditors examined and found in the two weeks they spent in Phoenix earlier this month:

Pro V&V performed another logic and accuracy test on the tabulation machines to see that the “system correctly captures, stores, consolidates, and reports the specific ballot selections, and absence of selections, for each ballot position."Pro V&V found no issues.

Both firms checked to see if the county is using certified hardware and software.The auditors inspected and verified the software and said it was certified.
The firms examined what's called “hash values” — the code that dictates how the machine functions — to see if they were the same as when the machines were certified. If the hash code is different, that may indicate tampering. No hash value discrepancies were noted.

The auditors also checked that hackers didn’t install any software or hardware onto the machines by running malware tests and opening up the machines. They also conducted a network analysis to “ensure the network is a ‘closed network’ and can’t reach the internet.” No malicious hardware and software discrepancies were identified, and the firms did not see any proof of internet connectivity.
The auditors examined all nine of the large tabulators that count ballots at the election center, a random selection of 20% of the county’s precinct-based tabulators and a random selection of 40% of the county’s adjudication stations. No issues were found with the machines.

Quote:SLI Compliance was much more thorough in the way it reported results, compared with Pro V&V. SLI Compliance called its audit a "forensic audit," while Pro V&V said its audit was a "field audit."

SLI Compliance's 18-page report shows every step that the auditors took, including a timeline of what was done each day.

SLI Compliance gave details on how it checked to see whether any connection was made to the internet on the machines from July 6 to Nov. 20.

This is key because some claimed that this could have been how votes could have been switched after the election — although previous audits had found no proof of vote switching.

This included checking whether there were any instances of the systems being connected to an internet-routed network, including manually inspecting system data, files, logs and settings.

One test found one log entry of a connection attempt on Aug. 26 — someone had attempted to search for how to adjust screen brightness. But the auditors did not find any evidence that the machine successfully connected to the internet, this time or any other time.

SLI Compliance also listed five malware programs, including a digital forensic tool, it ran to check whether malicious software had been installed — in other words, whether the machines had been hacked. The team also manually checked for any malware programs on the machines.

The auditors found no malware.
Maricopa County's 2020 election votes were counted correctly, more county audits show

Surprise, Surprise. Who could have expected that.

During an audit your don't audit yourself. I audit you. Or you audit me.

The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors knows this. And that's why they don't want a different body auditing them.


I bet Enron would have loved to have been able to audit itself.

What in the actual **** are you talking about?

There were two audits done, by the only 2 independent accredited firms in this field of expertise able to do such an audit per the county. Elvis found a doc saying there may be as many 6 firms in the entire country total, including these two, who could do such an audit.

They did not audit themselves here!
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RE: Election Update from Arizona
(02-25-2021 03:46 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-25-2021 02:40 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  During an audit your don't audit yourself. I audit you. Or you audit me.

The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors knows this. And that's why they don't want a different body auditing them.


I bet Enron would have loved to have been able to audit itself.

What in the actual **** are you talking about?

There were two audits done, by the only 2 independent accredited firms in this field of expertise able to do such an audit per the county. Elvis found a doc saying there may be as many 6 firms in the entire country total, including these two, who could do such an audit.

They did not audit themselves here!

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RE: Election Update from Arizona
(02-25-2021 05:46 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(02-25-2021 03:46 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-25-2021 02:40 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  During an audit your don't audit yourself. I audit you. Or you audit me.

The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors knows this. And that's why they don't want a different body auditing them.


I bet Enron would have loved to have been able to audit itself.

What in the actual **** are you talking about?

There were two audits done, by the only 2 independent accredited firms in this field of expertise able to do such an audit per the county. Elvis found a doc saying there may be as many 6 firms in the entire country total, including these two, who could do such an audit.

They did not audit themselves here!

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The audit firms were hired by the board of supervisors, not the general assembly (senate or house). We can debate their qualifications but that doesn't change what was "audited".
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RE: Election Update from Arizona
RULING
Judge Rules in FAVOR of Az. Senate
Maricopa County must turn over November 2020 ballots to Arizona Senate



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France watched our elections, and decided to change their laws.


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So... Who thinks they destroy the evidence before they turn it over?
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(Yesterday 05:19 PM)Claw Wrote:  So... Who thinks they destroy the evidence before they turn it over?

That would be a crime. In Arizona they have to maintain the actual ballots, all logs, etc for 22 months.

While it would prevent us from getting to the bottom of things, people would go to jail.


I think they'll appeal to the state supreme court.
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