(06-10-2021 04:27 PM)Claw Wrote: (06-10-2021 04:22 PM)umbluegray Wrote: (06-10-2021 11:48 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (06-10-2021 11:40 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: But this points to a bigger issue...elections are expensive, and if you want to cry for more integrity, you need to be willing to pony up the dough to make that happen.
Absolutely. Including a reliable voter ID with photo, signature, and thumb prints embedded electronically, to be verified at the polls. Expensive? Yes. Cheaper than making the kind of mistake that voter fraud can lead to? Absolutely.
My thoughts exactly! The very fact that we hold elections mean they should be as secure as possible. If they are not secure then why even hold them at all? To pacify the sheeple?
Nope! Fair elections - PERIOD.
However, the assumption that they would be more expensive may not necessarily be correct.
One voting day.
Smaller precincts efficiently sized to be able to complete counting that day.
Paper ballots -- no machines.
Ditching electronic voting machines and tabulators should significant money per city/county.
Don't assume paper ballots are less prone to fraud. They aren't.
Right, I agree.
Technology isn't the culprit here. It's what people do with the technology that's the problem.
Just like "guns don't kill people -- people do."
Whether the technology is computerized or paper, safeguards must be put in place to prevent bad people from causing problems.
But one thing we do know, paper can never be connected to the internet.
There would be strict safeguards in place to ensure each person is: 1. eligible to vote and 2. votes only once.
After marking the paper ballot, the voter should put the ballot in a secured box (like a mailbox).
The voting hall should be thoroughly monitored by live video cameras.
The voting box should require 3 keys to open: the precinct coordinator, the Republican precinct watch lead and the Democratic precinct watch lead.
This could be expanded to other party representatives as well.
Once the ballots have been collected from the box the move to the counting station.
They can use the same system that has been used during the AZ audit -- Precinct Coordinator places ballot on carrousel, ballot is counted by Dem, Rep, any others.
After every 100 ballots (or 50, 25, etc) counting totals are compared among the Dem, Rep & others. They must agree before moving on.
Once this batch has been confirmed the ballots go back in to another secured box with the appropriate chain-of-custody documentation.
Granted, this is not a finalized process, but the appropriate secure process can be identified and implemented.
But there is no way in heck that computers should be counting ballots for us and we simply accept their totals as fact.
After counted ballot goes in secure box.