Since Pro V&V were *NOT* a Federally Accredited Test Lab in 2020 when they audited & certified Dominion machines in #Arizona #Georgia #Pennsylvania, among other states, does this make the audits and certification VOID??
#AuditGeorgiaNOW
#AZAudit
#ArizonaAudit
(05-10-2021 10:45 AM)bullet Wrote: You should have a CPA firm with IT experts review the process. But most of them are probably scared to touch it.
Consultants are paid to reach the result the client wants. They are only slightly less mercenary than lawyers. CPAs are trained to be objective, not that they are perfect, their training is not as an advocate. CPAs are also trained to review internal controls and the controls on our vote count process are beyond pathetic.
Not sure what you're referring to, but the two firms who did the Maricopa County audits are not "consultants". They're two of the very few firms in the entire country qualified to do such an audit...and they're independent and accredited.
Quote:Pro V&V, Inc. was founded in 2011 by individuals possessing a combined testing experience of over 30 years. Pro V&V received its Certificate of Accreditation to ISO/IEC 17025:2005 from National Voluntary Laboratory Accreditation Program (NVLAP) on April 2, 2012. On February 24, 2015, Pro V&V achieved accreditation by the Election Assistance Commission (EAC) for the EAC Voting System Test Laboratory (VSTL) accreditation set forth in the EAC Voting System Testing and Certification Program and Laboratory Accreditation Program. All Senior Pro V&V employees maintain internationally recognized software testing certifications.
Quote:SLI Compliance is an independent division under parent organization GLI LLC.
As an accredited lab under the National Voluntary Accreditation Program (NVLAP) of the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) (NVLAP Lab Code 200733-0: TESTING), SLI Compliance offers high-quality compliance testing and certification services to some of the most regulated industries. As an Office of the National Coordinator Authorized Test Lab (ONC-ATL) and Authorized Certification Body (ONC-ACB), SLI Compliance is authorized to perform Health IT testing and certification for the ONC's Health IT Certification Program. In addition to the Health IT industry, SLI Compliance is accredited by the U.S. Election Assistance Commission as a Voting System Test Lab (VSTL) qualified to test voting systems to Federal standards. SLI Compliance provides a full range of Voting System Testing Services and Election Support Services to international, state, and local governing bodies.
They hadn't been certified since 2017. But to be fair, the EAC jumped on that certification within hours that the news reported they weren't certified.
(05-10-2021 10:45 AM)bullet Wrote: You should have a CPA firm with IT experts review the process. But most of them are probably scared to touch it.
Consultants are paid to reach the result the client wants. They are only slightly less mercenary than lawyers. CPAs are trained to be objective, not that they are perfect, their training is not as an advocate. CPAs are also trained to review internal controls and the controls on our vote count process are beyond pathetic.
Not sure what you're referring to, but the two firms who did the Maricopa County audits are not "consultants". They're two of the very few firms in the entire country qualified to do such an audit...and they're independent and accredited.
Quote:Pro V&V, Inc. was founded in 2011 by individuals possessing a combined testing experience of over 30 years. Pro V&V received its Certificate of Accreditation to ISO/IEC 17025:2005 from National Voluntary Laboratory Accreditation Program (NVLAP) on April 2, 2012. On February 24, 2015, Pro V&V achieved accreditation by the Election Assistance Commission (EAC) for the EAC Voting System Test Laboratory (VSTL) accreditation set forth in the EAC Voting System Testing and Certification Program and Laboratory Accreditation Program. All Senior Pro V&V employees maintain internationally recognized software testing certifications.
Quote:SLI Compliance is an independent division under parent organization GLI LLC.
As an accredited lab under the National Voluntary Accreditation Program (NVLAP) of the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) (NVLAP Lab Code 200733-0: TESTING), SLI Compliance offers high-quality compliance testing and certification services to some of the most regulated industries. As an Office of the National Coordinator Authorized Test Lab (ONC-ATL) and Authorized Certification Body (ONC-ACB), SLI Compliance is authorized to perform Health IT testing and certification for the ONC's Health IT Certification Program. In addition to the Health IT industry, SLI Compliance is accredited by the U.S. Election Assistance Commission as a Voting System Test Lab (VSTL) qualified to test voting systems to Federal standards. SLI Compliance provides a full range of Voting System Testing Services and Election Support Services to international, state, and local governing bodies.
They hadn't been certified since 2017. But to be fair, the EAC jumped on that certification within hours that the news reported they weren't certified.
US Election Assistance Commission (EAC) certifies Voting System Test Labs (VSTL), the certification is good for 2 years. The 1st time they were certified according to EAC, was in 2012, renewed in 2015 (1 year lapse in certification), then NOTHING until Jan & Feb 2021!
(05-10-2021 11:19 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: Not sure what you're referring to, but the two firms who did the Maricopa County audits are not "consultants". They're two of the very few firms in the entire country qualified to do such an audit...and they're independent and accredited.
They hadn't been certified since 2017. But to be fair, the EAC jumped on that certification within hours that the news reported they weren't certified.
US Election Assistance Commission (EAC) certifies Voting System Test Labs (VSTL), the certification is good for 2 years. The 1st time they were certified according to EAC, was in 2012, renewed in 2015 (1 year lapse in certification), then NOTHING until Jan & Feb 2021!
Correct. PdfElvis misread the statute. During the active TERM, certification can not be revoked without a vote of the EAC. But certifications arent "forever". They have a term.
They hadn't been certified since 2017. But to be fair, the EAC jumped on that certification within hours that the news reported they weren't certified.
US Election Assistance Commission (EAC) certifies Voting System Test Labs (VSTL), the certification is good for 2 years. The 1st time they were certified according to EAC, was in 2012, renewed in 2015 (1 year lapse in certification), then NOTHING until Jan & Feb 2021!
Correct. PdfElvis misread the statute. During the active TERM, certification can not be revoked without a vote of the EAC. But certifications arent "forever". They have a term.
So what happens now? Is the AZ audit still ongoing?
(05-10-2021 11:19 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: Not sure what you're referring to, but the two firms who did the Maricopa County audits are not "consultants". They're two of the very few firms in the entire country qualified to do such an audit...and they're independent and accredited.
They hadn't been certified since 2017. But to be fair, the EAC jumped on that certification within hours that the news reported they weren't certified.
US Election Assistance Commission (EAC) certifies Voting System Test Labs (VSTL), the certification is good for 2 years. The 1st time they were certified according to EAC, was in 2012, renewed in 2015 (1 year lapse in certification), then NOTHING until Jan & Feb 2021!
The current cert doesn't have an expiration date, and has that where the expiration date used to be. So when did they change it?
They hadn't been certified since 2017. But to be fair, the EAC jumped on that certification within hours that the news reported they weren't certified.
US Election Assistance Commission (EAC) certifies Voting System Test Labs (VSTL), the certification is good for 2 years. The 1st time they were certified according to EAC, was in 2012, renewed in 2015 (1 year lapse in certification), then NOTHING until Jan & Feb 2021!
Correct. PdfElvis misread the statute. During the active TERM, certification can not be revoked without a vote of the EAC. But certifications arent "forever". They have a term.
I didn't misread anything, moron. Go read the current cert again and try and find the expiration date.
(05-10-2021 02:32 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: The software used by Antrim county has been found not to be in compliance. Turns out you can go straight into MS Sql database server and flip votes straight in the database.
hmmmmm...that does sound kinda important? Maybe everything will be okay if they just reboot and it will magically go away?
(05-10-2021 10:45 AM)bullet Wrote: You should have a CPA firm with IT experts review the process. But most of them are probably scared to touch it.
Consultants are paid to reach the result the client wants. They are only slightly less mercenary than lawyers. CPAs are trained to be objective, not that they are perfect, their training is not as an advocate. CPAs are also trained to review internal controls and the controls on our vote count process are beyond pathetic.
Not sure what you're referring to, but the two firms who did the Maricopa County audits are not "consultants". They're two of the very few firms in the entire country qualified to do such an audit...and they're independent and accredited.
Quote:Pro V&V, Inc. was founded in 2011 by individuals possessing a combined testing experience of over 30 years. Pro V&V received its Certificate of Accreditation to ISO/IEC 17025:2005 from National Voluntary Laboratory Accreditation Program (NVLAP) on April 2, 2012. On February 24, 2015, Pro V&V achieved accreditation by the Election Assistance Commission (EAC) for the EAC Voting System Test Laboratory (VSTL) accreditation set forth in the EAC Voting System Testing and Certification Program and Laboratory Accreditation Program. All Senior Pro V&V employees maintain internationally recognized software testing certifications.
Quote:SLI Compliance is an independent division under parent organization GLI LLC.
As an accredited lab under the National Voluntary Accreditation Program (NVLAP) of the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) (NVLAP Lab Code 200733-0: TESTING), SLI Compliance offers high-quality compliance testing and certification services to some of the most regulated industries. As an Office of the National Coordinator Authorized Test Lab (ONC-ATL) and Authorized Certification Body (ONC-ACB), SLI Compliance is authorized to perform Health IT testing and certification for the ONC's Health IT Certification Program. In addition to the Health IT industry, SLI Compliance is accredited by the U.S. Election Assistance Commission as a Voting System Test Lab (VSTL) qualified to test voting systems to Federal standards. SLI Compliance provides a full range of Voting System Testing Services and Election Support Services to international, state, and local governing bodies.
Any organization can "certify" people. An "enrolled agent" can represent taxpayers before the IRS, but that doesn't mean that much. So these firms have certifications nobody has ever heard of.
(05-10-2021 02:32 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: The software used by Antrim county has been found not to be in compliance. Turns out you can go straight into MS Sql database server and flip votes straight in the database.
hmmmmm...that does sound kinda important? Maybe everything will be okay if they just reboot and it will magically go away?
If it's an MS SQL Server and I can get to the database, I can change anything I want to. I don't need to know the database structure, the table layouts, the column names, none of it. I can write a quick script to find all that out, and then even quicker change anything in it. Piece of cake.
(05-10-2021 05:38 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote: The Antrim County hearing today revealed that the state never did an actual audit. That’s their own admission! Public record.
That's not what commietom said. He said they did two. Or was it three.
(05-10-2021 05:38 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote: The Antrim County hearing today revealed that the state never did an actual audit. That’s their own admission! Public record.
That's not what commietom said. He said they did two. Or was it three.
When was the last Time he was right about anything ?
(05-10-2021 05:38 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote: The Antrim County hearing today revealed that the state never did an actual audit. That’s their own admission! Public record.
That's not what commietom said. He said they did two. Or was it three.
(05-10-2021 05:38 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote: The Antrim County hearing today revealed that the state never did an actual audit. That’s their own admission! Public record.
That's not what commietom said. He said they did two. Or was it three.
ya'll reminded me of...commietom's bald acting career:
(05-10-2021 05:38 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote: The Antrim County hearing today revealed that the state never did an actual audit. That’s their own admission! Public record.
That's not what commietom said. He said they did two. Or was it three.
When was the last Time he was right about anything ?
Antrim County is in Michigan you ******* clowns!
Not surprising you're relying on the sham "audit" firm in Michigan that doesn't know the difference between Minnesota and Michigan!
