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(02-10-2021 03:40 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  Yesterday the AZ Senate voted on contempt resolution. One republican, Paul Boyer, voted with the Democrats. Rather than passing 16-14, the resolution failed 15-15. In the video below he explains his vote. He does say that the county must hand over all items but he doesn't want to go with contempt charges and arrests just yet. He wants to give them more time.

We'll see what he does in the future.

They've listed his number for people to text him: 480-577-0078.

Posted February 9, 2021



Just had to get his name in the paper.
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https://wethepeopleazalliance.com adding to the recall list...

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Curious umbluegray, you don't live in Arizona...I assume. What is your interest here? What do you think is going to happen here...that someone is going to magically find that dominion machines switched votes when that's not been once shown in any election, anywhere to date?
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(02-12-2021 09:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious umbluegray, you don't live in Arizona...I assume. What is your interest here? What do you think is going to happen here...that someone is going to magically find that dominion machines switched votes when that's not been once shown in any election, anywhere to date?
Not speaking for him but I would like a heck of a lot more transparency across the board in elections.

Auditing yourself isnt transparency.

Currently any election observation or post election audits are as legitimate as Iranian nuclear inspections.



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(02-12-2021 10:47 AM)maximus Wrote:  
(02-12-2021 09:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious umbluegray, you don't live in Arizona...I assume. What is your interest here? What do you think is going to happen here...that someone is going to magically find that dominion machines switched votes when that's not been once shown in any election, anywhere to date?
Not speaking for him but I would like a heck of a lot more transparency across the board in elections.

Auditing yourself isnt transparency.

Currently any election observation or post election audits are as legitimate as Iranian nuclear inspections.



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Since you quoted him I can see his question.

I don't live in Arizona, but at the moment they seem to be working the hardest to do a forensic audit of the entire election process including the voting machines, software, ballots, and whether illegal votes were cast.

We do know that certain machines did have a failure where votes were incorrectly counted in Antrim County, MI, and now Windham, NH.

I saw a USPS report earlier this week that stated the Post Office processed "a staggering 134,000,000 mail-in ballots."

Mail-in ballots tend to have a failure rate between 3%-6%, yet the 2020 election saw a 0.1% failure rate with significantly more 1st-time mail-in voters.

There are too many issues for them to not have some type of statistical relevance.

We now know that chain of custody laws were violated in all swing states.

An exhaustive list of irregularities by swing state can be found here.

As Arizona state senator Sonny Borrelli and others have said, they want a definitive answer one way or the other regarding the integrity of the Nov 2020 election. They feel it is their duty to either silence the critics and ease the minds of those who believe fraud was involved or to identify systemic problems which need to be corrected before the next election.

They have also stated they've had contact with 16 other states which are monitoring their progress. Depending on the findings, those states may feel the need to take action.
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(02-10-2021 11:21 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-10-2021 10:26 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  I guess I go back to the simple question.... if there is nothing to hide, why are you hiding it?

What is the reason to perpetuate this standoff? Principle? Ego?

According to the County officials, the state is not allowed by law to look at the ballots, yet the state is requesting them. So the County is saying only a judge can require them to turn them over.

Law & Order.

And the county has nothing to hide. They ordered audits and two firms are currently conducting them. They should be done in March. Those results will be made public when done.

The state is not allowed to look at them under normal circumstances. That changes when a subpoena is issued. Just like the state is not allowed to look in your home....until a search warrant is issued. The County is basically claiming that any County wishing to violate the law and commit voter fraud may do that and can cover it up by refusing to give the ballot evidence to state authorities.

Lets be honest---the County officials know their mail in ballot security was a joke and wont pass any real test. Thats why they dont want to cooperate with a full forensic audit. Ive said from the start---while Im am incredibly skeptical of all the Dominion allegations---I am equally certain that any comprehensive forensic audit with find there was widespread fraud within the mail-in ballot component of this election. Officials simply made it too easy to cheat. The mail in system in most states was set up to handle a few thousand ballots---not millions of ballots. Most state mail systems were never designed to deal with that kind of mail in vote volume we saw in 2020 and the changes made to handle that volume with existing equipment meant that security was downgraded in favor of the ability to handle greater volume.
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No point in arguing with the commietoms of the world, they fully support all the cheating.
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(02-12-2021 11:19 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  We do know that certain machines did have a failure where votes were incorrectly counted in Antrim County, MI, and now Windham, NH.

This. Is. Not. Accurate!

The Dominion machines counted correctly. The issue was with other software on another counting machine that was not updated properly, which led to improper results being sent to the state.

Quote:"The erroneous reporting of unofficial results from Antrim county was a result of accidental error on the part of the Antrim County clerk," the state agency that oversees elections said in a news release.

There was no problem with the voting machines or vote totals, which were preserved on tapes printed from the tabulators, the state said. The problem occurred when the totals by precinct were combined into candidate county-wide totals for transfer to the state, using election management system software, the state agency said.
Antrim vote glitch: Expert shares how county mistakenly flipped from red to blue

The GOP county officials all affirmed that this was what happened.
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(02-12-2021 09:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious umbluegray, you don't live in Arizona...I assume. What is your interest here? What do you think is going to happen here...that someone is going to magically find that dominion machines switched votes when that's not been once shown in any election, anywhere to date?



TO RESTORE CONFIDENCE IN THE PROCESS.................


Good god you are dense. I know you don't agree and think everything is cool, but way way too many people do not. As futile an effort as you think it may be and prove nothing happened as claimed, it would be a bridge to restoring some confidence in the process.
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(02-12-2021 10:47 AM)maximus Wrote:  
(02-12-2021 09:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious umbluegray, you don't live in Arizona...I assume. What is your interest here? What do you think is going to happen here...that someone is going to magically find that dominion machines switched votes when that's not been once shown in any election, anywhere to date?
Not speaking for him but I would like a heck of a lot more transparency across the board in elections.

Auditing yourself isnt transparency.

Michigan's risk-limiting audit was just completed. The results have been affirmed the results and the report will be made public shortly. And the audit was done with the assistance of an independent firm as well as election clerks of both parties.

Quote:The Bureau of Elections compiling a full report of the results, which will be published upon completion. Risk-limiting audits are considered the gold standard of post-election audits and provide an extra layer of security when partnered with the traditional audit methods already utilized by election officials. The Bureau of Elections and local clerks across the state began piloting the audits in 2018 and 2019, and also conducted a pilot of the 2020 presidential primary. The process was conducted with the assistance of VotingWorks, a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization. It also drew upon the advice of the Election Security Advisory Commission and an audit task force composed of election clerks.
https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts...ns/2c0f391

Maricopa County, AZ is currently conducting a forensic audit and is using two independent firms. Results are expected in March.
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Senator Borrelli, Majority Whip, discusses Senator Boyer betrayal and issues with the county "audit".
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Az Rep. Finchem to ask Attorney General to file Criminal Charges against Board Of Supervisors.

Posted February 18, 2021






Even thought Republican state senator Paul Boyers voted not to issue contempt charges against the Maricopa County election supervisors, a court can still issue those charges. Hearing set for Thursday, February 25, 2021.

Posted February 21, 2021






Due to concerns that Maricopa County has recalibrated the machines, the AZ Senate is asking for a Grand Jury investigation.

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(02-12-2021 12:42 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-12-2021 10:47 AM)maximus Wrote:  
(02-12-2021 09:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious umbluegray, you don't live in Arizona...I assume. What is your interest here? What do you think is going to happen here...that someone is going to magically find that dominion machines switched votes when that's not been once shown in any election, anywhere to date?
Not speaking for him but I would like a heck of a lot more transparency across the board in elections.

Auditing yourself isnt transparency.

Michigan's risk-limiting audit was just completed. The results have been affirmed the results and the report will be made public shortly. And the audit was done with the assistance of an independent firm as well as election clerks of both parties.

Quote:The Bureau of Elections compiling a full report of the results, which will be published upon completion. Risk-limiting audits are considered the gold standard of post-election audits and provide an extra layer of security when partnered with the traditional audit methods already utilized by election officials. The Bureau of Elections and local clerks across the state began piloting the audits in 2018 and 2019, and also conducted a pilot of the 2020 presidential primary. The process was conducted with the assistance of VotingWorks, a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization. It also drew upon the advice of the Election Security Advisory Commission and an audit task force composed of election clerks.
https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts...ns/2c0f391

Maricopa County, AZ is currently conducting a forensic audit and is using two independent firms. Results are expected in March.

Does MI have a good explanation for the hundreds of thousands of ballots dropped on election night that went almost all for Biden?
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(02-22-2021 03:28 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(02-12-2021 12:42 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-12-2021 10:47 AM)maximus Wrote:  
(02-12-2021 09:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious umbluegray, you don't live in Arizona...I assume. What is your interest here? What do you think is going to happen here...that someone is going to magically find that dominion machines switched votes when that's not been once shown in any election, anywhere to date?
Not speaking for him but I would like a heck of a lot more transparency across the board in elections.

Auditing yourself isnt transparency.

Michigan's risk-limiting audit was just completed. The results have been affirmed the results and the report will be made public shortly. And the audit was done with the assistance of an independent firm as well as election clerks of both parties.

Quote:The Bureau of Elections compiling a full report of the results, which will be published upon completion. Risk-limiting audits are considered the gold standard of post-election audits and provide an extra layer of security when partnered with the traditional audit methods already utilized by election officials. The Bureau of Elections and local clerks across the state began piloting the audits in 2018 and 2019, and also conducted a pilot of the 2020 presidential primary. The process was conducted with the assistance of VotingWorks, a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization. It also drew upon the advice of the Election Security Advisory Commission and an audit task force composed of election clerks.
https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts...ns/2c0f391

Maricopa County, AZ is currently conducting a forensic audit and is using two independent firms. Results are expected in March.

Does MI have a good explanation for the hundreds of thousands of ballots dropped on election night that went almost all for Biden?

Answering RWT: No, Maricopa County is not conducting a forensic audit. They are calling it a forensic audit but does not satisfy the requirements of a forensic audit.
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(02-22-2021 03:31 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(02-22-2021 03:28 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(02-12-2021 12:42 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-12-2021 10:47 AM)maximus Wrote:  
(02-12-2021 09:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious umbluegray, you don't live in Arizona...I assume. What is your interest here? What do you think is going to happen here...that someone is going to magically find that dominion machines switched votes when that's not been once shown in any election, anywhere to date?
Not speaking for him but I would like a heck of a lot more transparency across the board in elections.

Auditing yourself isnt transparency.

Michigan's risk-limiting audit was just completed. The results have been affirmed the results and the report will be made public shortly. And the audit was done with the assistance of an independent firm as well as election clerks of both parties.

Quote:The Bureau of Elections compiling a full report of the results, which will be published upon completion. Risk-limiting audits are considered the gold standard of post-election audits and provide an extra layer of security when partnered with the traditional audit methods already utilized by election officials. The Bureau of Elections and local clerks across the state began piloting the audits in 2018 and 2019, and also conducted a pilot of the 2020 presidential primary. The process was conducted with the assistance of VotingWorks, a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization. It also drew upon the advice of the Election Security Advisory Commission and an audit task force composed of election clerks.
https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts...ns/2c0f391

Maricopa County, AZ is currently conducting a forensic audit and is using two independent firms. Results are expected in March.

Does MI have a good explanation for the hundreds of thousands of ballots dropped on election night that went almost all for Biden?

Answering RWT: No, Maricopa County is not conducting a forensic audit. They are calling it a forensic audit but does not satisfy the requirements of a forensic audit.

Be careful of his spellchecker looking for audits. That show he works.
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(02-12-2021 12:42 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-12-2021 10:47 AM)maximus Wrote:  
(02-12-2021 09:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious umbluegray, you don't live in Arizona...I assume. What is your interest here? What do you think is going to happen here...that someone is going to magically find that dominion machines switched votes when that's not been once shown in any election, anywhere to date?
Not speaking for him but I would like a heck of a lot more transparency across the board in elections.

Auditing yourself isnt transparency.

Michigan's risk-limiting audit was just completed. The results have been affirmed the results and the report will be made public shortly. And the audit was done with the assistance of an independent firm as well as election clerks of both parties.

Good, I'm especially interested in seeing what the audit had to say about missing chain of custody documents. I mean, unless that audit is a complete farce.
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(02-22-2021 03:28 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(02-12-2021 12:42 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-12-2021 10:47 AM)maximus Wrote:  
(02-12-2021 09:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious umbluegray, you don't live in Arizona...I assume. What is your interest here? What do you think is going to happen here...that someone is going to magically find that dominion machines switched votes when that's not been once shown in any election, anywhere to date?
Not speaking for him but I would like a heck of a lot more transparency across the board in elections.

Auditing yourself isnt transparency.

Michigan's risk-limiting audit was just completed. The results have been affirmed the results and the report will be made public shortly. And the audit was done with the assistance of an independent firm as well as election clerks of both parties.

Quote:The Bureau of Elections compiling a full report of the results, which will be published upon completion. Risk-limiting audits are considered the gold standard of post-election audits and provide an extra layer of security when partnered with the traditional audit methods already utilized by election officials. The Bureau of Elections and local clerks across the state began piloting the audits in 2018 and 2019, and also conducted a pilot of the 2020 presidential primary. The process was conducted with the assistance of VotingWorks, a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization. It also drew upon the advice of the Election Security Advisory Commission and an audit task force composed of election clerks.
https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts...ns/2c0f391

Maricopa County, AZ is currently conducting a forensic audit and is using two independent firms. Results are expected in March.

Does MI have a good explanation for the hundreds of thousands of ballots dropped on election night that went almost all for Biden?

Yes, and they always have. They use a centralized mail in counting facility and reported results in large batches. Unsurprisingly the vast majority of mail in votes from detroit were for Biden.

Obama got 97.5% of the vote in Detroit, Hillary got 95% of the vote in Detroit. It isn't some big surprise when mail in voting from Detroit when overwhelmingly for Biden.
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if you've got nothing to hide, then an audit shouldn't be a big deal. Right?
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(02-22-2021 06:54 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(02-22-2021 03:28 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(02-12-2021 12:42 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-12-2021 10:47 AM)maximus Wrote:  
(02-12-2021 09:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Curious umbluegray, you don't live in Arizona...I assume. What is your interest here? What do you think is going to happen here...that someone is going to magically find that dominion machines switched votes when that's not been once shown in any election, anywhere to date?
Not speaking for him but I would like a heck of a lot more transparency across the board in elections.

Auditing yourself isnt transparency.

Michigan's risk-limiting audit was just completed. The results have been affirmed the results and the report will be made public shortly. And the audit was done with the assistance of an independent firm as well as election clerks of both parties.

Quote:The Bureau of Elections compiling a full report of the results, which will be published upon completion. Risk-limiting audits are considered the gold standard of post-election audits and provide an extra layer of security when partnered with the traditional audit methods already utilized by election officials. The Bureau of Elections and local clerks across the state began piloting the audits in 2018 and 2019, and also conducted a pilot of the 2020 presidential primary. The process was conducted with the assistance of VotingWorks, a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization. It also drew upon the advice of the Election Security Advisory Commission and an audit task force composed of election clerks.
https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts...ns/2c0f391

Maricopa County, AZ is currently conducting a forensic audit and is using two independent firms. Results are expected in March.

Does MI have a good explanation for the hundreds of thousands of ballots dropped on election night that went almost all for Biden?

Yes, and they always have. They use a centralized mail in counting facility and reported results in large batches. Unsurprisingly the vast majority of mail in votes from detroit were for Biden.

Obama got 97.5% of the vote in Detroit, Hillary got 95% of the vote in Detroit. It isn't some big surprise when mail in voting from Detroit when overwhelmingly for Biden.

So, previous elections saw a couple of hundred vote drop in the middle of the night for a candidate, of which nearly 100% went to one person?
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(01-18-2021 06:06 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  Cool let's see what the excuse is when they find nothing.

Hey, how about we borrow one of your excuses (there are many so you won’t likely miss one) when nobody has found ANYTHING on President Trump from your phony, BS, Russia crap to your 2 failed ridiculous, political theatre, horseshiiit impeachment’s.

What a hypocrite
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