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(02-05-2021 07:01 AM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  

(02-05-2021 01:18 AM)blazr Wrote:  

(02-04-2021 11:44 AM)biglizard Wrote:  

(02-04-2021 10:48 AM)WesternBlazer Wrote:  

(02-04-2021 10:39 AM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  I never said they did. Neither did BlazinBham. Like I said before, we've been recruiting well enough to win CUSA, that is indisputable. The flip side is we haven't performed well against the decent or better OOC opponents we've faced.

I thought spending many 10's of $millions on a practice facility and stadium would have yielded more positive recruiting results. So far it hasn't and that is what is disappointing. Hopefully a couple of seasons in Protective will at least get us in the Top 100.

I think COVID has had some affect as recruits can't visit. Its one thing to say we have these great facilities, a new stadium, great coaches, great atmosphere, etc, but another to actually see it. The Srs that are staying are all excited to hang around UAB for another year and play in the new stadium - they have seen all these things that recruits have only been told about.

I think this plays a big role. These kids are 18-19 years old. For the in state kids the first time they probably ever heard of UAB was when we shut down. I know in Huntsville they had relatively extensive coverage of that misadventure but about a 15sec blurb about the return. If you can't visit and see the physical changes on campus it's a little hard to imagine what we've done.

Kids haven't heard of UAB's storied "Return"? Do they not have ESPN? We've become a media darling for them and it's going to pay off immensely sooner than later.

blue font right?

Yeah, really. They matched their media darlings up with a 3-7 team in a bowl and then didn't find us a replacement when they inevitably bailed. ESPN doesn't give a **** about UAB. That's downright delusional.

(02-05-2021 08:07 AM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  

(02-05-2021 07:01 AM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  

(02-05-2021 01:18 AM)blazr Wrote:  

(02-04-2021 11:44 AM)biglizard Wrote:  

(02-04-2021 10:48 AM)WesternBlazer Wrote:  I think COVID has had some affect as recruits can't visit. Its one thing to say we have these great facilities, a new stadium, great coaches, great atmosphere, etc, but another to actually see it. The Srs that are staying are all excited to hang around UAB for another year and play in the new stadium - they have seen all these things that recruits have only been told about.

I think this plays a big role. These kids are 18-19 years old. For the in state kids the first time they probably ever heard of UAB was when we shut down. I know in Huntsville they had relatively extensive coverage of that misadventure but about a 15sec blurb about the return. If you can't visit and see the physical changes on campus it's a little hard to imagine what we've done.

Kids haven't heard of UAB's storied "Return"? Do they not have ESPN? We've become a media darling for them and it's going to pay off immensely sooner than later.

blue font right?

Yeah, really. They matched their media darlings up with a 3-7 team in a bowl and then didn't find us a replacement when they inevitably bailed. ESPN doesn't give a **** about UAB. That's downright delusional.

ESPN only cares about the teams that makes ESPN the most $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ (or the ones that help some political agenda). Sad, but true!

(02-03-2021 08:03 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  Wanna talk about for-real godforsaken? That's CSUK. If winning division and conference titles in the worst league in college football is our primary objective as a program, we need to move the tarps directly from Legion Field to Protective Stadium because we're gonna need them.

It's indisputable that we can win CSUK with the recruiting classes we've been putting together. We have to look beyond winning this FCS+ conference and measure ourselves against the top of the G5. If the best teams we can beat are from CSUK, we'll be looking at November crowds in the sub 20,000 range for the foreseeable future.

UAB didn't sign a single Top 50 kid in Alabama but these teams did:

Memphis (2 - 19, 41)
WKU (21)
Ark St (23)
Troy (2 - 34, 44))
UCA (37)
USM (38)
Ga St (43)
ECU (49)

So 10 out of Alabama's Top 50, 20%, go to the G5 but UAB doesn't get one of them. Can't blame the league when conference teams are signing higher rated players in your own state. Luckily we got the late flip by Richey or we would've been whipped in-state by freaking Rice. Considering our investment in facilites, our recruiting is disappointing.

FYI
Brad Powers@BradPowers7
Number of 5-star recruits signed in the 2021 class:

Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia, LSU and Clemson: 22
The other 125 teams: 12

The talent gap is only growing in college football.

(02-05-2021 01:18 AM)blazr Wrote:  

(02-04-2021 11:44 AM)biglizard Wrote:  

(02-04-2021 10:48 AM)WesternBlazer Wrote:  

(02-04-2021 10:39 AM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  

(02-04-2021 09:16 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  The ranking of this recruiting class is disappointing but it doesn't mean these new recruits will suck.

I never said they did. Neither did BlazinBham. Like I said before, we've been recruiting well enough to win CUSA, that is indisputable. The flip side is we haven't performed well against the decent or better OOC opponents we've faced.

I thought spending many 10's of $millions on a practice facility and stadium would have yielded more positive recruiting results. So far it hasn't and that is what is disappointing. Hopefully a couple of seasons in Protective will at least get us in the Top 100.

I think COVID has had some affect as recruits can't visit. Its one thing to say we have these great facilities, a new stadium, great coaches, great atmosphere, etc, but another to actually see it. The Srs that are staying are all excited to hang around UAB for another year and play in the new stadium - they have seen all these things that recruits have only been told about.

I think this plays a big role. These kids are 18-19 years old. For the in state kids the first time they probably ever heard of UAB was when we shut down. I know in Huntsville they had relatively extensive coverage of that misadventure but about a 15sec blurb about the return. If you can't visit and see the physical changes on campus it's a little hard to imagine what we've done.

Kids haven't heard of UAB's storied "Return"? Do they not have ESPN? We've become a media darling for them and it's going to pay off immensely sooner than later.

I think you're overestimating the effect "the Return" has on recruiting. Yeah, it was a big deal for the UAB community, and especially fans of UAB athletics. The story was significant locally, ESPN did some nice pieces on it in 2017, and it is mentioned on the rare occasion one of our games is on National TV. But the kids we are recruiting today were 14 and 15 years old when it happened. Do you think a story about us shutting down football for two years, coming back going 8-5, and getting blown out in a bowl game against Ohio is something they will remember the rest of their life? The way kids that grew up in the 70's remember the 1980 US Olympic Hockey Team? Hollywood isn't going to make a movie about it. I'd be shocked if there is even a 30 for 30 made about it. If anything, I think other coaches can spin it and use it against us.

What will excite these young guys is an exciting style of play and wins over nationally significant programs. I'm not knocking what Bill Clark and this program have accomplished on the field since the Return. I think it's incredible. But let's be real about it.

(02-05-2021 09:54 AM)WesternBlazer Wrote:  

(02-03-2021 08:03 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  Wanna talk about for-real godforsaken? That's CSUK. If winning division and conference titles in the worst league in college football is our primary objective as a program, we need to move the tarps directly from Legion Field to Protective Stadium because we're gonna need them.

It's indisputable that we can win CSUK with the recruiting classes we've been putting together. We have to look beyond winning this FCS+ conference and measure ourselves against the top of the G5. If the best teams we can beat are from CSUK, we'll be looking at November crowds in the sub 20,000 range for the foreseeable future.

UAB didn't sign a single Top 50 kid in Alabama but these teams did:

Memphis (2 - 19, 41)
WKU (21)
Ark St (23)
Troy (2 - 34, 44))
UCA (37)
USM (38)
Ga St (43)
ECU (49)

So 10 out of Alabama's Top 50, 20%, go to the G5 but UAB doesn't get one of them. Can't blame the league when conference teams are signing higher rated players in your own state. Luckily we got the late flip by Richey or we would've been whipped in-state by freaking Rice. Considering our investment in facilites, our recruiting is disappointing.

FYI
Brad Powers@BradPowers7
Number of 5-star recruits signed in the 2021 class:

Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia, LSU and Clemson: 22
The other 125 teams: 12

The talent gap is only growing in college football.

Looking at the national rankings, it's interesting what's happening at Jackson State, eh? THREE 4 star players? Wow. They already have FBS level support and looks like they'll have FBS talent level soon. An FCS class ranked 86th. Pretty impressive. JS becoming a contender in recruiting has gotta hurt for the Golden Buzzards.

Yeah, but that's Deion. He can make a media splash, and it looks like he got decent assistants. The other side of it is that when Deion does something wrong somehow the scrutiny will be that much greater. We'll know in a couple of years how successful this move really was. Maybe he really can attract elite Black players to a HBCU program, or maybe he takes chances on 4 stars that have academic or behavior issues. Those can pay off big or blow up on you.

(02-05-2021 09:54 AM)WesternBlazer Wrote:  

(02-03-2021 08:03 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  Wanna talk about for-real godforsaken? That's CSUK. If winning division and conference titles in the worst league in college football is our primary objective as a program, we need to move the tarps directly from Legion Field to Protective Stadium because we're gonna need them.

It's indisputable that we can win CSUK with the recruiting classes we've been putting together. We have to look beyond winning this FCS+ conference and measure ourselves against the top of the G5. If the best teams we can beat are from CSUK, we'll be looking at November crowds in the sub 20,000 range for the foreseeable future.

UAB didn't sign a single Top 50 kid in Alabama but these teams did:

Memphis (2 - 19, 41)
WKU (21)
Ark St (23)
Troy (2 - 34, 44))
UCA (37)
USM (38)
Ga St (43)
ECU (49)

So 10 out of Alabama's Top 50, 20%, go to the G5 but UAB doesn't get one of them. Can't blame the league when conference teams are signing higher rated players in your own state. Luckily we got the late flip by Richey or we would've been whipped in-state by freaking Rice. Considering our investment in facilites, our recruiting is disappointing.

FYI
Brad Powers@BradPowers7
Number of 5-star recruits signed in the 2021 class:

Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia, LSU and Clemson: 22
The other 125 teams: 12

The talent gap is only growing in college football.

Another factor to UAB being shut out for many in state players may be that they are the ones most aware of the anti-UAB FB prejudice among many in Alabama for most of their lives. For players elsewhere, UAB is jut another G5 school recruiting them. We have gotten some of these in state players back by transfer once they are older and wiser, but the "fiefdom mentality" in Alabama may work against UAB among the youngest recruits.

(02-05-2021 03:27 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(02-05-2021 09:54 AM)WesternBlazer Wrote:  

(02-03-2021 08:03 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  Wanna talk about for-real godforsaken? That's CSUK. If winning division and conference titles in the worst league in college football is our primary objective as a program, we need to move the tarps directly from Legion Field to Protective Stadium because we're gonna need them.

It's indisputable that we can win CSUK with the recruiting classes we've been putting together. We have to look beyond winning this FCS+ conference and measure ourselves against the top of the G5. If the best teams we can beat are from CSUK, we'll be looking at November crowds in the sub 20,000 range for the foreseeable future.

UAB didn't sign a single Top 50 kid in Alabama but these teams did:

Memphis (2 - 19, 41)
WKU (21)
Ark St (23)
Troy (2 - 34, 44))
UCA (37)
USM (38)
Ga St (43)
ECU (49)

So 10 out of Alabama's Top 50, 20%, go to the G5 but UAB doesn't get one of them. Can't blame the league when conference teams are signing higher rated players in your own state. Luckily we got the late flip by Richey or we would've been whipped in-state by freaking Rice. Considering our investment in facilites, our recruiting is disappointing.

FYI
Brad Powers@BradPowers7
Number of 5-star recruits signed in the 2021 class:

Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia, LSU and Clemson: 22
The other 125 teams: 12

The talent gap is only growing in college football.

Another factor to UAB being shut out for many in state players may be that they are the ones most aware of the anti-UAB FB prejudice among many in Alabama for most of their lives. For players elsewhere, UAB is jut another G5 school recruiting them. We have gotten some of these in state players back by transfer once they are older and wiser, but the "fiefdom mentality" in Alabama may work against UAB among the youngest recruits.

good post

(02-05-2021 08:05 AM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  You didn't show your face on this board for many years after the "crow served cold" debacle in 2011. You lurked in purgatory on the CUSA board. Then you bailed on the team after the shutdown: "it's gone for good". Finally, you slither back when we start winning. What a POS. Way better UAB fans have been banned from this board.

Good points. My apologies.


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(02-06-2021 01:08 PM)BlazeOn Wrote:  Signed:

Antwan Massie, DB, Miami, FL
@Ballhawk_Twan

Tim Burns, Jr., DB, Miami, FL
@TimBurnsJr1

Brody Dalton, TE, Fyffe, AL
@brody_dalton

Dylan Mehrotra, QB, Baton Rouge, LA
@dylan_mehrotra

Keegan Vaughan, OL, Independence C.C. (KS)
@Keegan_Va

Brett Johnson, OL, Maplesville, AL
@BrettJohnsonOL

Devin Manigault, DL, Mobile, AL
@DevinManigault

Xander Echols, LS, Chelsea, AL
@XanderEchols

Charles Daniels, LB, Plano, TX
@Kingcharless3

Kybo Jamerson, LB, Longview, TX
@Kybo3x

Eli Richey, OL, Greensboro, AL
@EliRichey1

Jordan Palmer, WR, (Alpharetta, GA)
@JordanNewtonP

Fred Farrier II, WR, Frankfort, KY
@FFarrier2

Quincy McGee, OL, Mississippi Gulf Coast C.C.
@qjm_55


Probable PWO/Gray Shirt/Blue Shirt:

Therion Cannon. OL, Ridgeland, SC
@CannonTherion

Clay Smelley, Tuscaloosa, AL
@ClaySmelley

Caden Long, K, Roswell, GA
@CadenLong12

Charles Trumbull, DL, Panama City, FL
@CharlesTrumbull

Dawson Ray, OL, Vestavia Hills, AL
@DawsonRay5

Javonte Graves-Billips, ATH, Mobile, AL
@javonte_4

Ike Rowell, ATH, Fyffe, AL
@IkeRowell

Adan Lepkowski, OL, Hoover, AL
@LepkowskiAdam

Jalen Williams, DL, Mobile, AL
@jalmalwill

Bryce Littleton, DL, Vestavia Hills, AL
@littleton_bryce

Michael Crawford, OL, Spanish Fort, AL
@MCRAW_55

Teddy Davenport, WR, Alpharetta, GA
@DavTeddy

Javonte Graves-Billips signed with The Citadel.