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RE: New Marshall HC - Charles Huff (Alabama RB Coach). Congrats!
Fresh enthusiasm can do wonders!
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RE: New Marshall HC - Charles Huff (Alabama RB Coach). Congrats!
(01-17-2021 12:31 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  
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(01-16-2021 08:20 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  Have you been to Huntington?

Have you?

Yes

I live in Lexington, and I get the Huntington hate.

But for a small town, Huntington has a lot to offer.

Besides, Huntington or location isn't what makes the Marshall job attractive. It's a proven commodity. Boca can't be beat for location, but FAU has a LONG way to go to achieve the kind of name recognition of Marshall.

The proven commodity is it has won TWO conference championship in the last 20 years. Living on your accomplishments of the 90's sounds like Hurricane fans. What have you done for us lately, the answer...not much. Now go act like a flagship!

That's why we're happy we got a new coach. Doc wasn't getting it done even with a decent record every year. Unless it was against FAU...he always seemed to get that done.
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(01-17-2021 12:58 PM)USM@FTL Wrote:  Fresh enthusiasm can do wonders!

Agreed. The problem is, fresh enthusiasm only works for a short period of time. Maybe a year or two. I'm sure the UTSA folks will admit that fresh enthusiasm carried UTSA fans for the first 2 years of Frank Wilson's tenure.
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RE: New Marshall HC - Charles Huff (Alabama RB Coach). Congrats!
(01-17-2021 01:25 PM)MUther Wrote:  
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(01-16-2021 08:25 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Have you?

Yes

I live in Lexington, and I get the Huntington hate.

But for a small town, Huntington has a lot to offer.

Besides, Huntington or location isn't what makes the Marshall job attractive. It's a proven commodity. Boca can't be beat for location, but FAU has a LONG way to go to achieve the kind of name recognition of Marshall.

The proven commodity is it has won TWO conference championship in the last 20 years. Living on your accomplishments of the 90's sounds like Hurricane fans. What have you done for us lately, the answer...not much. Now go act like a flagship!

That's why we're happy we got a new coach. Doc wasn't getting it done even with a decent record every year. Unless it was against FAU...he always seemed to get that done.

I don't think anyone here on CUSABBS really believes it was a bad idea for Marshall to make a coaching change. Some of us are just wondering why the Herd didn't hire a more experienced coach with a better track record. Or maybe even a guy with a coaching "system" that already works. (For a system, think Mike Leach (passing), Sonny Dykes (passing), Bill Clark (smash mouth), Lane Kiffin (risk taker), etc... Nobody is suggesting hiring these guys (which would be impossible anyway), but rather hire an "up and comer" with a particular, proven, style like this.

The problem with Huff is, he's never been a head coach, or an OC or a DC, so he's never called plays offensively or defensively. So, he really doesn't have a style. Nobody really knows what to expect.
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RE: New Marshall HC - Charles Huff (Alabama RB Coach). Congrats!
(01-17-2021 02:00 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(01-17-2021 01:25 PM)MUther Wrote:  
(01-17-2021 12:31 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  
(01-16-2021 08:29 PM)rileylives Wrote:  
(01-16-2021 08:26 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  Yes

I live in Lexington, and I get the Huntington hate.

But for a small town, Huntington has a lot to offer.

Besides, Huntington or location isn't what makes the Marshall job attractive. It's a proven commodity. Boca can't be beat for location, but FAU has a LONG way to go to achieve the kind of name recognition of Marshall.

The proven commodity is it has won TWO conference championship in the last 20 years. Living on your accomplishments of the 90's sounds like Hurricane fans. What have you done for us lately, the answer...not much. Now go act like a flagship!

That's why we're happy we got a new coach. Doc wasn't getting it done even with a decent record every year. Unless it was against FAU...he always seemed to get that done.

I don't think anyone here on CUSABBS really believes it was a bad idea for Marshall to make a coaching change. Some of us are just wondering why the Herd didn't hire a more experienced coach with a better track record. Or maybe even a guy with a coaching "system" that already works. (For a system, think Mike Leach (passing), Sonny Dykes (passing), Bill Clark (smash mouth), Lane Kiffin (risk taker), etc... Nobody is suggesting hiring these guys (which would be impossible anyway), but rather hire an "up and comer" with a particular, proven, style like this.

The problem with Huff is, he's never been a head coach, or an OC or a DC, so he's never called plays offensively or defensively. So, he really doesn't have a style. Nobody really knows what to expect.

High Risk High Reward...he has some mitigating factors. He's not a slam dunk.
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RE: New Marshall HC - Charles Huff (Alabama RB Coach). Congrats!
Everyone on both sides are providing valid points.

If we fail with Huff, we achieve Mark Snyder levels. And those who say this was a bad hire will be validated, and sure let us Marshall fans know it.

If Huff is a home run, we'll get no credit here, and the naysayers will never admit they may have been wrong.

Marshall fans are pumped though. An older retread HC or DC experience (Brad Lambert) or established OC (Dwayne Ledford OC from Louisville) did not get this job. So that tells me Huff impressed the right people, and it's absolutely reasonable to believe he has what it takes.
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RE: New Marshall HC - Charles Huff (Alabama RB Coach). Congrats!
(01-17-2021 02:00 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
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(01-17-2021 12:31 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  
(01-16-2021 08:29 PM)rileylives Wrote:  
(01-16-2021 08:26 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  Yes

I live in Lexington, and I get the Huntington hate.

But for a small town, Huntington has a lot to offer.

Besides, Huntington or location isn't what makes the Marshall job attractive. It's a proven commodity. Boca can't be beat for location, but FAU has a LONG way to go to achieve the kind of name recognition of Marshall.

The proven commodity is it has won TWO conference championship in the last 20 years. Living on your accomplishments of the 90's sounds like Hurricane fans. What have you done for us lately, the answer...not much. Now go act like a flagship!

That's why we're happy we got a new coach. Doc wasn't getting it done even with a decent record every year. Unless it was against FAU...he always seemed to get that done.

I don't think anyone here on CUSABBS really believes it was a bad idea for Marshall to make a coaching change. Some of us are just wondering why the Herd didn't hire a more experienced coach with a better track record. Or maybe even a guy with a coaching "system" that already works. (For a system, think Mike Leach (passing), Sonny Dykes (passing), Bill Clark (smash mouth), Lane Kiffin (risk taker), etc... Nobody is suggesting hiring these guys (which would be impossible anyway), but rather hire an "up and comer" with a particular, proven, style like this.

The problem with Huff is, he's never been a head coach, or an OC or a DC, so he's never called plays offensively or defensively. So, he really doesn't have a style. Nobody really knows what to expect.

That's my worry hiring someone who's only been a position coach, he's advanced to better programs but never to a higher level position. He may be the next PJ FLeck, or Urban Meyer but he could be the next Mark Snyder or Doc Holiday as well, he's an unproven commodity.
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(01-16-2021 08:26 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  Yes

I live in Lexington, and I get the Huntington hate.

But for a small town, Huntington has a lot to offer.

Besides, Huntington or location isn't what makes the Marshall job attractive. It's a proven commodity. Boca can't be beat for location, but FAU has a LONG way to go to achieve the kind of name recognition of Marshall.

The proven commodity is it has won TWO conference championship in the last 20 years. Living on your accomplishments of the 90's sounds like Hurricane fans. What have you done for us lately, the answer...not much. Now go act like a flagship!

That's why we're happy we got a new coach. Doc wasn't getting it done even with a decent record every year. Unless it was against FAU...he always seemed to get that done.

I don't think anyone here on CUSABBS really believes it was a bad idea for Marshall to make a coaching change. Some of us are just wondering why the Herd didn't hire a more experienced coach with a better track record. Or maybe even a guy with a coaching "system" that already works. (For a system, think Mike Leach (passing), Sonny Dykes (passing), Bill Clark (smash mouth), Lane Kiffin (risk taker), etc... Nobody is suggesting hiring these guys (which would be impossible anyway), but rather hire an "up and comer" with a particular, proven, style like this.

The problem with Huff is, he's never been a head coach, or an OC or a DC, so he's never called plays offensively or defensively. So, he really doesn't have a style. Nobody really knows what to expect.

I’m curious as to what Skip Holtz coaching “system” is?
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RE: New Marshall HC - Charles Huff (Alabama RB Coach). Congrats!
(01-17-2021 02:03 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  
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(01-16-2021 08:29 PM)rileylives Wrote:  I live in Lexington, and I get the Huntington hate.

But for a small town, Huntington has a lot to offer.

Besides, Huntington or location isn't what makes the Marshall job attractive. It's a proven commodity. Boca can't be beat for location, but FAU has a LONG way to go to achieve the kind of name recognition of Marshall.

The proven commodity is it has won TWO conference championship in the last 20 years. Living on your accomplishments of the 90's sounds like Hurricane fans. What have you done for us lately, the answer...not much. Now go act like a flagship!

That's why we're happy we got a new coach. Doc wasn't getting it done even with a decent record every year. Unless it was against FAU...he always seemed to get that done.

I don't think anyone here on CUSABBS really believes it was a bad idea for Marshall to make a coaching change. Some of us are just wondering why the Herd didn't hire a more experienced coach with a better track record. Or maybe even a guy with a coaching "system" that already works. (For a system, think Mike Leach (passing), Sonny Dykes (passing), Bill Clark (smash mouth), Lane Kiffin (risk taker), etc... Nobody is suggesting hiring these guys (which would be impossible anyway), but rather hire an "up and comer" with a particular, proven, style like this.

The problem with Huff is, he's never been a head coach, or an OC or a DC, so he's never called plays offensively or defensively. So, he really doesn't have a style. Nobody really knows what to expect.

High Risk High Reward...he has some mitigating factors. He's not a slam dunk.

Ok from the fan who’s probably feeling good about having ol’ punk azz Taggart as HC
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ANYONE....literally ANYONE can come to Marshall and do what Doc has done in this ****** conference.

I fully expect Coach Huff to do better than Doc, whether that happens or not I don't know, but he can't do any worse.
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Looks like a good hire if the Bama fans are upset to lose him.

Now, I think he needs to ease into it, take it slow. First season take your time to feel things out...get the team peaking at the end of the season...
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(01-17-2021 05:28 PM)herdfan129 Wrote:  ANYONE....literally ANYONE can come to Marshall and do what Doc has done in this ****** conference.

I fully expect Coach Huff to do better than Doc, whether that happens or not I don't know, but he can't do any worse.

Doc was solid. We could have absolutely done worse. Much worse.

I think some forget how bad we were under Snyder. I don't think Doc lost to an FCS.

His worst season we were 3-9 in 2016. However, the locker room was lost. If anything, Doc's weaknesses (losing the locker room at times, ultra conservative nature) is what did him in this past 2020 season.

Give it 5-10 years, and we could be pleasantly reminiscing the Doc year's. Doc was crock pot chicken Solid, but not exciting.
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(01-17-2021 05:45 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Looks like a good hire if the Bama fans are upset to lose him.

Now, I think he needs to ease into it, take it slow. First season take your time to feel things out...get the team peaking at the end of the season...

Agreed.
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(01-17-2021 02:45 PM)ThunderDrunk304 Wrote:  
(01-17-2021 02:00 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(01-17-2021 01:25 PM)MUther Wrote:  
(01-17-2021 12:31 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  
(01-16-2021 08:29 PM)rileylives Wrote:  I live in Lexington, and I get the Huntington hate.

But for a small town, Huntington has a lot to offer.

Besides, Huntington or location isn't what makes the Marshall job attractive. It's a proven commodity. Boca can't be beat for location, but FAU has a LONG way to go to achieve the kind of name recognition of Marshall.

The proven commodity is it has won TWO conference championship in the last 20 years. Living on your accomplishments of the 90's sounds like Hurricane fans. What have you done for us lately, the answer...not much. Now go act like a flagship!

That's why we're happy we got a new coach. Doc wasn't getting it done even with a decent record every year. Unless it was against FAU...he always seemed to get that done.

I don't think anyone here on CUSABBS really believes it was a bad idea for Marshall to make a coaching change. Some of us are just wondering why the Herd didn't hire a more experienced coach with a better track record. Or maybe even a guy with a coaching "system" that already works. (For a system, think Mike Leach (passing), Sonny Dykes (passing), Bill Clark (smash mouth), Lane Kiffin (risk taker), etc... Nobody is suggesting hiring these guys (which would be impossible anyway), but rather hire an "up and comer" with a particular, proven, style like this.

The problem with Huff is, he's never been a head coach, or an OC or a DC, so he's never called plays offensively or defensively. So, he really doesn't have a style. Nobody really knows what to expect.

I’m curious as to what Skip Holtz coaching “system” is?

Obviously, it's to disappoint his LA Tech fans. 03-wink Because that's really all he's good at.

I'm no fan of Holtz (in case you haven't figure it out ). I'm a LA Tech fan, not a Holtz fan. Frankly, I think we could win SUPER Big without Holtz, if we got a good coach. LA Tech was winning before Holtz got here. Holtz is just a "place holder" or a "hired gun" as far as I'm concerned. Unfortunately, it will take the folks in Ruston another 3 years of football program deterioration to figure out that Holtz is killing us.

But you just made my point. Back in 2011 and 2012, LA Tech won a WAC football title and earned Top 25 national rankings when Sonny Dykes was our Head Coach. And Sonny Dykes has a "system". And that system works! Skip Holtz does not have a "system" and he couldn't buy a conference title if he robbed a bank in advance.
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(01-17-2021 04:18 PM)IslandHerd1 Wrote:  
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(01-17-2021 12:31 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  The proven commodity is it has won TWO conference championship in the last 20 years. Living on your accomplishments of the 90's sounds like Hurricane fans. What have you done for us lately, the answer...not much. Now go act like a flagship!

That's why we're happy we got a new coach. Doc wasn't getting it done even with a decent record every year. Unless it was against FAU...he always seemed to get that done.

I don't think anyone here on CUSABBS really believes it was a bad idea for Marshall to make a coaching change. Some of us are just wondering why the Herd didn't hire a more experienced coach with a better track record. Or maybe even a guy with a coaching "system" that already works. (For a system, think Mike Leach (passing), Sonny Dykes (passing), Bill Clark (smash mouth), Lane Kiffin (risk taker), etc... Nobody is suggesting hiring these guys (which would be impossible anyway), but rather hire an "up and comer" with a particular, proven, style like this.

The problem with Huff is, he's never been a head coach, or an OC or a DC, so he's never called plays offensively or defensively. So, he really doesn't have a style. Nobody really knows what to expect.

High Risk High Reward...he has some mitigating factors. He's not a slam dunk.

Ok from the fan who’s probably feeling good about having ol’ punk azz Taggart as HC

We have obviously found our new keyboard tough guy.
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(01-17-2021 07:24 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
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(01-17-2021 02:00 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
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(01-17-2021 12:31 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  The proven commodity is it has won TWO conference championship in the last 20 years. Living on your accomplishments of the 90's sounds like Hurricane fans. What have you done for us lately, the answer...not much. Now go act like a flagship!

That's why we're happy we got a new coach. Doc wasn't getting it done even with a decent record every year. Unless it was against FAU...he always seemed to get that done.

I don't think anyone here on CUSABBS really believes it was a bad idea for Marshall to make a coaching change. Some of us are just wondering why the Herd didn't hire a more experienced coach with a better track record. Or maybe even a guy with a coaching "system" that already works. (For a system, think Mike Leach (passing), Sonny Dykes (passing), Bill Clark (smash mouth), Lane Kiffin (risk taker), etc... Nobody is suggesting hiring these guys (which would be impossible anyway), but rather hire an "up and comer" with a particular, proven, style like this.

The problem with Huff is, he's never been a head coach, or an OC or a DC, so he's never called plays offensively or defensively. So, he really doesn't have a style. Nobody really knows what to expect.

I’m curious as to what Skip Holtz coaching “system” is?

Obviously, it's to disappoint his LA Tech fans. 03-wink Because that's really all he's good at.

I'm no fan of Holtz (in case you haven't figure it out ). I'm a LA Tech fan, not a Holtz fan. Frankly, I think we could win SUPER Big without Holtz. We were winning before he got here. Holtz is just a "place holder" or "hired gun" as far as I'm concerned. Unfortunately, it will take the folks in Ruston another 3 years of football program deterioration to figure out that Holtz is killing us. The folks in Ruston don't like change much.

But you just made my point. Back in 2011 and 2012, LA Tech won a WAC football title and earned Top 25 national rankings when Sonny Dykes was our Head Coach. And Sonny Dykes has a "system". And that system works! Skip Holtz does not have a "system" and he couldn't buy a conference title if he robbed a bank in advance.

Systems get figured out. Leadership is hard to come by.

This is why I am pumped for Huff. I wanted the complete opposite of a system playcaller. Those cats get figured out real quick.

If Huff is as strong of a recruiter the Alabama fans say he is, and if he is a portion of that lit fire personality he shows online, we just got a dude.

Coaches that stick to a system don't work in my opinion. The best coaches coach up their players, and call the game that puts it's players in their best light.
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(01-16-2021 08:29 PM)rileylives Wrote:  I live in Lexington, and I get the Huntington hate.

But for a small town, Huntington has a lot to offer.

Besides, Huntington or location isn't what makes the Marshall job attractive. It's a proven commodity. Boca can't be beat for location, but FAU has a LONG way to go to achieve the kind of name recognition of Marshall.

The proven commodity is it has won TWO conference championship in the last 20 years. Living on your accomplishments of the 90's sounds like Hurricane fans. What have you done for us lately, the answer...not much. Now go act like a flagship!

That's why we're happy we got a new coach. Doc wasn't getting it done even with a decent record every year. Unless it was against FAU...he always seemed to get that done.

I don't think anyone here on CUSABBS really believes it was a bad idea for Marshall to make a coaching change. Some of us are just wondering why the Herd didn't hire a more experienced coach with a better track record. Or maybe even a guy with a coaching "system" that already works. (For a system, think Mike Leach (passing), Sonny Dykes (passing), Bill Clark (smash mouth), Lane Kiffin (risk taker), etc... Nobody is suggesting hiring these guys (which would be impossible anyway), but rather hire an "up and comer" with a particular, proven, style like this.

The problem with Huff is, he's never been a head coach, or an OC or a DC, so he's never called plays offensively or defensively. So, he really doesn't have a style. Nobody really knows what to expect.

I’m curious as to what Skip Holtz coaching “system” is?

If you figure it out let us know especially on offense... 8 years are we are still trying to figure it out
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(01-17-2021 05:45 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Looks like a good hire if the Bama fans are upset to lose him.

Now, I think he needs to ease into it, take it slow. First season take your time to feel things out...get the team peaking at the end of the season...

You dont know Marshall fans....

take it slow my ass, let Marshall get curd stomped @Notre Dame, then lose at home vs Appy St, fans will be ready to say Doc 2.0

Anything less than 8 wins and be in the running for a eastern title the last week of the season. Not going to heard very many says "got to give coach a couple years to "take it slow"
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RE: New Marshall HC - Charles Huff (Alabama RB Coach). Congrats!
(01-17-2021 07:38 PM)rileylives Wrote:  
(01-17-2021 07:24 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(01-17-2021 02:45 PM)ThunderDrunk304 Wrote:  
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(01-17-2021 01:25 PM)MUther Wrote:  That's why we're happy we got a new coach. Doc wasn't getting it done even with a decent record every year. Unless it was against FAU...he always seemed to get that done.

I don't think anyone here on CUSABBS really believes it was a bad idea for Marshall to make a coaching change. Some of us are just wondering why the Herd didn't hire a more experienced coach with a better track record. Or maybe even a guy with a coaching "system" that already works. (For a system, think Mike Leach (passing), Sonny Dykes (passing), Bill Clark (smash mouth), Lane Kiffin (risk taker), etc... Nobody is suggesting hiring these guys (which would be impossible anyway), but rather hire an "up and comer" with a particular, proven, style like this.

The problem with Huff is, he's never been a head coach, or an OC or a DC, so he's never called plays offensively or defensively. So, he really doesn't have a style. Nobody really knows what to expect.

I’m curious as to what Skip Holtz coaching “system” is?

Obviously, it's to disappoint his LA Tech fans. 03-wink Because that's really all he's good at.

I'm no fan of Holtz (in case you haven't figure it out ). I'm a LA Tech fan, not a Holtz fan. Frankly, I think we could win SUPER Big without Holtz. We were winning before he got here. Holtz is just a "place holder" or "hired gun" as far as I'm concerned. Unfortunately, it will take the folks in Ruston another 3 years of football program deterioration to figure out that Holtz is killing us. The folks in Ruston don't like change much.

But you just made my point. Back in 2011 and 2012, LA Tech won a WAC football title and earned Top 25 national rankings when Sonny Dykes was our Head Coach. And Sonny Dykes has a "system". And that system works! Skip Holtz does not have a "system" and he couldn't buy a conference title if he robbed a bank in advance.

Systems get figured out. Leadership is hard to come by.

This is why I am pumped for Huff. I wanted the complete opposite of a system playcaller. Those cats get figured out real quick.

If Huff is as strong of a recruiter the Alabama fans say he is, and if he is a portion of that lit fire personality he shows online, we just got a dude.

Coaches that stick to a system don't work in my opinion. The best coaches coach up their players, and call the game that puts it's players in their best light.

LOL! You sound just like Skip Holtz with all that "coach speak"......03-lmfao
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RE: New Marshall HC - Charles Huff (Alabama RB Coach). Congrats!
(01-17-2021 07:38 PM)rileylives Wrote:  
(01-17-2021 07:24 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(01-17-2021 02:45 PM)ThunderDrunk304 Wrote:  
(01-17-2021 02:00 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  
(01-17-2021 01:25 PM)MUther Wrote:  That's why we're happy we got a new coach. Doc wasn't getting it done even with a decent record every year. Unless it was against FAU...he always seemed to get that done.

I don't think anyone here on CUSABBS really believes it was a bad idea for Marshall to make a coaching change. Some of us are just wondering why the Herd didn't hire a more experienced coach with a better track record. Or maybe even a guy with a coaching "system" that already works. (For a system, think Mike Leach (passing), Sonny Dykes (passing), Bill Clark (smash mouth), Lane Kiffin (risk taker), etc... Nobody is suggesting hiring these guys (which would be impossible anyway), but rather hire an "up and comer" with a particular, proven, style like this.

The problem with Huff is, he's never been a head coach, or an OC or a DC, so he's never called plays offensively or defensively. So, he really doesn't have a style. Nobody really knows what to expect.

I’m curious as to what Skip Holtz coaching “system” is?

Obviously, it's to disappoint his LA Tech fans. 03-wink Because that's really all he's good at.

I'm no fan of Holtz (in case you haven't figure it out ). I'm a LA Tech fan, not a Holtz fan. Frankly, I think we could win SUPER Big without Holtz. We were winning before he got here. Holtz is just a "place holder" or "hired gun" as far as I'm concerned. Unfortunately, it will take the folks in Ruston another 3 years of football program deterioration to figure out that Holtz is killing us. The folks in Ruston don't like change much.

But you just made my point. Back in 2011 and 2012, LA Tech won a WAC football title and earned Top 25 national rankings when Sonny Dykes was our Head Coach. And Sonny Dykes has a "system". And that system works! Skip Holtz does not have a "system" and he couldn't buy a conference title if he robbed a bank in advance.

Systems get figured out. Leadership is hard to come by.

This is why I am pumped for Huff. I wanted the complete opposite of a system playcaller. Those cats get figured out real quick.

If Huff is as strong of a recruiter the Alabama fans say he is, and if he is a portion of that lit fire personality he shows online, we just got a dude.

Coaches that stick to a system don't work in my opinion. The best coaches coach up their players, and call the game that puts it's players in their best light.

Coaches that dont have a system recruit to ratings and that is a disaster waiting to happen.

A coach should be willing to tweak his system to the players already there but you have to recruit the players that best fit into YOUR system.

Western's, cheerleader, friend of the players, good recruiter...

ran a championship program, back to back and picked for a 3 pete, into the ground. He did it because he thought the star system was the same in the G5 as it was at ND....

This level is always going to be able finding that QB that stands out with his play and decision making. Not his star rating because a school getting 18 3 star players vs one getting 10. Well its really not as important as finding players that fit your system...like a glove.

Doc had a system and for the most part it worked. Boring as hell but it worked. Just not good enough to beat another system that was exciting and wide open.

One wins conference championships. One keeps you in the race longer
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