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RE: Just cancel the season
If they have a tourney, will COVID cause a forfeit or will they just re-bracket you?

Or will that depend on who you are?
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(01-13-2021 07:37 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  that's a boldface lie

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NCAA has to have the tournament. If they don't, you may see many athletic departments disappear.
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(01-14-2021 09:50 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  
(01-14-2021 09:31 AM)Unionman76 Wrote:  how is the ncaa going to reconcile the disparity in games played for determining invites to the tournament?

you are going to have teams that played 10 more games than other teams in the same conference

They didn't have a problem letting Ohio State into the CFP. They had five wins and had to get a special exemption to play in their conference championship to make it to six games.

Yep---and what only 1-2 months earlier the conference set the rule---and then changed it and SCREWED MINN
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(01-13-2021 10:12 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(01-13-2021 07:23 PM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  Won't happen ncaa can sustain another lost tournament

NCAA just gets operation costs from these tournament games and a fee for rainy say operation such as when season it hit with a pandemic.

The vast majority of the money is returned to the member schools. That is why our check this past year was much lower than usual years.

The NCAA is not getting rich on the tournament.

Are you simple or just stone cold stupid?
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(01-14-2021 12:56 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  
(01-13-2021 10:12 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(01-13-2021 07:23 PM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  Won't happen ncaa can sustain another lost tournament

NCAA just gets operation costs from these tournament games and a fee for rainy say operation such as when season it hit with a pandemic.

The vast majority of the money is returned to the member schools. That is why our check this past year was much lower than usual years.

The NCAA is not getting rich on the tournament.

Are you simple or just stone cold stupid?

both?
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(01-14-2021 01:26 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  How much are we spending covid testing...Is that expensive?

I'm not sure about Memphis, but this article about Coastal Carolina and East Carolina says $100 per test. Or they can use pool tests that breakdown to like $15 per negative test.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/stor...ic-budgets

(01-14-2021 09:50 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  
(01-14-2021 09:31 AM)Unionman76 Wrote:  how is the ncaa going to reconcile the disparity in games played for determining invites to the tournament?

you are going to have teams that played 10 more games than other teams in the same conference

They didn't have a problem letting Ohio State into the CFP. They had five wins and had to get a special exemption to play in their conference championship to make it to six games.

Don't forget the NCAA has nothing to do with the CFP.
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(01-14-2021 03:02 PM)Alanda Wrote:  
(01-14-2021 01:26 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  How much are we spending covid testing...Is that expensive?

I'm not sure about Memphis, but this article about Coastal Carolina and East Carolina says $100 per test. Or they can use pool tests that breakdown to like $15 per negative test.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/stor...ic-budgets

(01-14-2021 09:50 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  
(01-14-2021 09:31 AM)Unionman76 Wrote:  how is the ncaa going to reconcile the disparity in games played for determining invites to the tournament?

you are going to have teams that played 10 more games than other teams in the same conference

They didn't have a problem letting Ohio State into the CFP. They had five wins and had to get a special exemption to play in their conference championship to make it to six games.

Don't forget the NCAA has nothing to do with the CFP.

While true, the NCAA does determine bowl-eligibility. Six wins would have been enough to get in even if they hadn't relaxed that this year though...
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(01-14-2021 03:05 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  
(01-14-2021 03:02 PM)Alanda Wrote:  
(01-14-2021 01:26 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  How much are we spending covid testing...Is that expensive?

I'm not sure about Memphis, but this article about Coastal Carolina and East Carolina says $100 per test. Or they can use pool tests that breakdown to like $15 per negative test.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/stor...ic-budgets

(01-14-2021 09:50 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  
(01-14-2021 09:31 AM)Unionman76 Wrote:  how is the ncaa going to reconcile the disparity in games played for determining invites to the tournament?

you are going to have teams that played 10 more games than other teams in the same conference

They didn't have a problem letting Ohio State into the CFP. They had five wins and had to get a special exemption to play in their conference championship to make it to six games.

Don't forget the NCAA has nothing to do with the CFP.

While true, the NCAA does determine bowl-eligibility. Six wins would have been enough to get in even if they hadn't relaxed that this year though...

Yeah the bowl system is a much better example since the NCAA deals with that. And it shows that the potential discrepancy won't matter that much, if at all like you mention.
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(01-13-2021 10:12 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  
(01-13-2021 07:23 PM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  Won't happen ncaa can sustain another lost tournament

The NCAA is not getting rich on the tournament.

The NCAA is surviving economically because of the tournament.
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RE: Just cancel the season
(01-14-2021 03:02 PM)Alanda Wrote:  
(01-14-2021 01:26 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  How much are we spending covid testing...Is that expensive?

I'm not sure about Memphis, but this article about Coastal Carolina and East Carolina says $100 per test. Or they can use pool tests that breakdown to like $15 per negative test.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/stor...ic-budgets

I recall AD Veatch saying late summer that the university had struck a deal with one of the local medical groups for testing at about half the normal rate, ~$50/test. That was before the batch or pool testing concept. Not sure if the university is employing that or not.

I believe we are testing about 3 times per week.

Penny seemed frustrated yesterday with all the cancellations. He said programs needed to do a better job with "bubbles". School, practice, home. After their initial "outbreak" this summer after they first reported back to school, the program seems to be doing pretty good.
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(01-14-2021 04:06 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(01-14-2021 03:02 PM)Alanda Wrote:  
(01-14-2021 01:26 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  How much are we spending covid testing...Is that expensive?

I'm not sure about Memphis, but this article about Coastal Carolina and East Carolina says $100 per test. Or they can use pool tests that breakdown to like $15 per negative test.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/stor...ic-budgets

I recall AD Veatch saying late summer that the university had struck a deal with one of the local medical groups for testing at about half the normal rate, ~$50/test. That was before the batch or pool testing concept. Not sure if the university is employing that or not.

I believe we are testing about 3 times per week.

Penny seemed frustrated yesterday with all the cancellations. He said programs needed to do a better job with "bubbles". School, practice, home. After their initial "outbreak" this summer after they first reported back to school, the program seems to be doing pretty good.

Well he said 9 of the guys already had it...That really lowers the risk.
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(01-14-2021 09:50 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  
(01-14-2021 09:31 AM)Unionman76 Wrote:  how is the ncaa going to reconcile the disparity in games played for determining invites to the tournament?

you are going to have teams that played 10 more games than other teams in the same conference

They didn't have a problem letting Ohio State into the CFP. They had five wins and had to get a special exemption to play in their conference championship to make it to six games.

NCAA has no say in the CFP the CFP committee runs that
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(01-14-2021 04:06 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(01-14-2021 03:02 PM)Alanda Wrote:  
(01-14-2021 01:26 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  How much are we spending covid testing...Is that expensive?

I'm not sure about Memphis, but this article about Coastal Carolina and East Carolina says $100 per test. Or they can use pool tests that breakdown to like $15 per negative test.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/stor...ic-budgets

I recall AD Veatch saying late summer that the university had struck a deal with one of the local medical groups for testing at about half the normal rate, ~$50/test. That was before the batch or pool testing concept. Not sure if the university is employing that or not.

I believe we are testing about 3 times per week.

Penny seemed frustrated yesterday with all the cancellations. He said programs needed to do a better job with "bubbles". School, practice, home. After their initial "outbreak" this summer after they first reported back to school, the program seems to be doing pretty good.

That was nice to get that deal. Hopefully at this point pool testing is commonplace for all teams.

I bet he's frustrated. We're turning into the basketball version of Houston.
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Good news yesterday, the WHO announced new, lower PCR scores to determine COVID positivity. We should see an immediate drop in positive cases, meaning less restrictions locally and drastic reduction in postponed sporting events.

Find your own link.
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(01-21-2021 09:02 AM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  Good news yesterday, the WHO announced new, lower PCR scores to determine COVID positivity. We should see an immediate drop in positive cases, meaning less restrictions locally and drastic reduction in postponed sporting events.

Find your own link.

I tried but got nothing.
Is this addressing what many have been claiming - the high rate of false positives?
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(01-21-2021 12:45 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(01-21-2021 09:02 AM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  Good news yesterday, the WHO announced new, lower PCR scores to determine COVID positivity. We should see an immediate drop in positive cases, meaning less restrictions locally and drastic reduction in postponed sporting events.

Find your own link.

I tried but got nothing.
Is this addressing what many have been claiming - the high rate of false positives?

.....coupled with the fact TRUMP is now out of office. The country will now open back up
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(01-21-2021 12:45 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(01-21-2021 09:02 AM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  Good news yesterday, the WHO announced new, lower PCR scores to determine COVID positivity. We should see an immediate drop in positive cases, meaning less restrictions locally and drastic reduction in postponed sporting events.

Find your own link.

I tried but got nothing.
Is this addressing what many have been claiming - the high rate of false positives?

https://www.who.int/news/item/20-01-2021...rs-2020-05

Quote:On Inauguration Day, the W.H.O. issued the new directives for the commonly used PCR testing in the form of a “medical product alert,” indicating that a patient who comes out positive may need to take a second test and present symptoms to be considered infected.

“Where test results do not correspond with the clinical presentation, a new specimen should be taken and retested using the same or different [PCR test],” W.H.O. officials wrote. W.H.O. officials now say that the PCR tests that have been used across the U.S. and elsewhere to detect coronavirus infections are a mere “aid for diagnosis,”

Up until COVID hit in 2020, neither WHO nor the CDC had ever considered a single positive PCR test sufficient for diagnosing viral infection.

W.H.O. officials now explain:
"Disease prevalence alters the predictive value of test results; as disease prevalence decreases, the risk of false positive increases. …. This means that the probability that a person who has a positive result (SARS-CoV-2 detected) is truly infected with SARS-CoV-2 decreases as prevalence decreases, irrespective of the claimed specificity."

SARS-CoV-2 is the official name of the coronavirus.
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(01-22-2021 07:05 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  
(01-21-2021 12:45 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(01-21-2021 09:02 AM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  Good news yesterday, the WHO announced new, lower PCR scores to determine COVID positivity. We should see an immediate drop in positive cases, meaning less restrictions locally and drastic reduction in postponed sporting events.

Find your own link.

I tried but got nothing.
Is this addressing what many have been claiming - the high rate of false positives?

https://www.who.int/news/item/20-01-2021...rs-2020-05

Quote:On Inauguration Day, the W.H.O. issued the new directives for the commonly used PCR testing in the form of a “medical product alert,” indicating that a patient who comes out positive may need to take a second test and present symptoms to be considered infected.

“Where test results do not correspond with the clinical presentation, a new specimen should be taken and retested using the same or different [PCR test],” W.H.O. officials wrote. W.H.O. officials now say that the PCR tests that have been used across the U.S. and elsewhere to detect coronavirus infections are a mere “aid for diagnosis,”

Up until COVID hit in 2020, neither WHO nor the CDC had ever considered a single positive PCR test sufficient for diagnosing viral infection.

W.H.O. officials now explain:
"Disease prevalence alters the predictive value of test results; as disease prevalence decreases, the risk of false positive increases. …. This means that the probability that a person who has a positive result (SARS-CoV-2 detected) is truly infected with SARS-CoV-2 decreases as prevalence decreases, irrespective of the claimed specificity."

SARS-CoV-2 is the official name of the coronavirus.

Positive COVID rates fall 44% in US since Inauguration*

*source not fact checked
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(01-21-2021 09:02 AM)BandwagonJumper Wrote:  Good news yesterday, the WHO announced new, lower PCR scores to determine COVID positivity. We should see an immediate drop in positive cases, meaning less restrictions locally and drastic reduction in postponed sporting events.

Find your own link.

Thanks Joe Biden!! He has single handedly defeated the threat! Pshhhhh
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