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What Fuels Our Rivalries?
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01-13-2021 11:29 AM
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This is sad. I took this survey and could not think of a single legit rival for ODU football. Looking at the results after I completed my survey, confirmed that we do not have anything that could be called a rival. We have got to find a way to get to a conference that is entirely regionally focused. CUSA is sucking the life out of our athletic program.
01-13-2021 02:09 PM
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RE: What Fuels Our Rivalries?
(01-13-2021 02:09 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  This is sad. I took this survey and could not think of a single legit rival for ODU football. Looking at the results after I completed my survey, confirmed that we do not have anything that could be called a rival. We have got to find a way to get to a conference that is entirely regionally focused. CUSA is sucking the life out of our athletic program.

I put Charlotte, Marshall, ECU, LU, and JMU. Then it started asking a ton of questions about Marshall and I gave up.
01-13-2021 05:08 PM
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RE: What Fuels Our Rivalries?
[Image: newrr.jpg]

when it comes to basketball... nothing makes me more angry than just thinking about everything this school stands for.

The hate is real.



LOL

tired of cusa
01-13-2021 10:16 PM
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RE: What Fuels Our Rivalries?
ECU was the only 'rival' I could be truthful about
01-14-2021 12:21 PM
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(01-13-2021 10:16 PM)Petey Hodge Wrote:  [Image: newrr.jpg]

when it comes to basketball... nothing makes me more angry than just thinking about everything this school stands for.

The hate is real.



LOL

tired of cusa

Can hate really travel 1,500 miles?
01-14-2021 12:29 PM
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(01-14-2021 12:21 PM)HeadsetGuy Wrote:  ECU was the only 'rival' I could be truthful about

I have a hard time calling ECU a rival. We have played them what 2 or 3 times in a decade?
01-14-2021 01:04 PM
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(01-14-2021 01:04 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(01-14-2021 12:21 PM)HeadsetGuy Wrote:  ECU was the only 'rival' I could be truthful about

I have a hard time calling ECU a rival. We have played them what 2 or 3 times in a decade?

Yeah. But they are the closest FBS program to us, a fellow G5, similar academic level, and a lot of interaction between alumni and fans socially due to geography. If we were in a conference with them, I could see it being similar to the VCU rivalry only in football. Speaking of which, VCU, GMU and JMU are our only true rivals. Just none of them play FBS football.
01-14-2021 01:35 PM
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(01-14-2021 01:04 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(01-14-2021 12:21 PM)HeadsetGuy Wrote:  ECU was the only 'rival' I could be truthful about

I have a hard time calling ECU a rival. We have played them what 2 or 3 times in a decade?

And we've never beaten them.
01-14-2021 02:05 PM
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(01-14-2021 01:35 PM)monarx Wrote:  
(01-14-2021 01:04 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(01-14-2021 12:21 PM)HeadsetGuy Wrote:  ECU was the only 'rival' I could be truthful about

I have a hard time calling ECU a rival. We have played them what 2 or 3 times in a decade?

Yeah. But they are the closest FBS program to us, a fellow G5, similar academic level, and a lot of interaction between alumni and fans socially due to geography. If we were in a conference with them, I could see it being similar to the VCU rivalry only in football. Speaking of which, VCU, GMU and JMU are our only true rivals. Just none of them play FBS football.

So, I think they are the FBS program best situated to be a rival, but I would really struggle to call it a rivalry right now. I would struggle to call anything that currently exists a a rivalry. I do not believe ODU Football has one, which is really the point of my original post, and should be a major concern for those running our athletic dept. I don't think the importance of rivalries in college sports can be overstated.

Sadly, I would probably argue that Liberty is the closest thing ODU currently has to a rivalry, and I don't think either side WANTS that to even be a rivalry.
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01-14-2021 02:06 PM
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RE: What Fuels Our Rivalries?
Obviously, VCU vs ODU was a true rivalry in the day.

I think a rivalry must be acknowledged by both schools. I would think nobody considers us their "Rival" in these days. Maybe UNCC, WKU and Marshall.
01-14-2021 03:00 PM
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RE: What Fuels Our Rivalries?
(01-14-2021 03:00 PM)ODUODUODU Wrote:  Obviously, VCU vs ODU was a true rivalry in the day.

I think a rivalry must be acknowledged by both schools. I would think nobody considers us their "Rival" in these days. Maybe UNCC, WKU and Marshall.

My posts are in reference to football since the study is focused on football. I do agree that VCU is certainly still a rival, and we have some lower level rivalries in basketball as well. WKU, Marshall, JMU, and even W&M and NSU qualify on some level I think. UNCC seems like it should be a rivalry, but I just don't sense anything there, probably because we haven't both been good at the same while in CUSA together.
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01-14-2021 03:15 PM
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RE: What Fuels Our Rivalries?
Georgia Southern had the makings of a rivalry before we went FBS.
01-14-2021 05:42 PM
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(01-14-2021 05:42 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  Georgia Southern had the makings of a rivalry before we went FBS.

If both us and GaSo had stayed FCS for another ten years, I think we'd be valuating our seasons based on "Did GaSo beat us in the playoffs or not?". Especially if we stayed Air Raid, it would have been a "worlds collide" kind of rivalry.
01-14-2021 05:52 PM
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