This will probably eventually need to go to the Quad. But I thought I'd start here, for those who remember him - as a student or on the basketball court.

I cannot find a campaign website for him yet, but he announced yesterday he is going to seek the Republican nomination for Governor of VA this year.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/vir...story.html

EDIT: to clarify his sports tie-in

His son also played for Rice in 2016-17 and 2017-18 but transferred to SMU.

Glenn was and is a good guy, and he's clearly level-headed enough to be on the right side. He'd be a nice change of scenery for that state.

I have long noticed that Rice graduates are way more honest, ethical, and open-minded than the majority of people in this country. Hopefully many more Rice graduates will run for office.

He cannot have my vote as I do not live in that state (and I won't cheat), but I will contribute money to his campaign.

Maybe he can challenge his opponent to a dunk contest?

(01-12-2021 05:19 PM)gsloth Wrote:  This will probably eventually need to go to the Quad. But I thought I'd start here, for those who remember him - as a student or on the basketball court.

I cannot find a campaign website for him yet, but he announced yesterday he is going to seek the Republican nomination for Governor of VA this year.

He has a website now. This is a promising development, as Rice's men's basketball lost all of its political influence when Pete Olson retired from Congress.

Youngkin looks to be the favorite to win the nomination as he won the 1st round of voting (it is ranked choice so they will keep counting until someone has a majority).

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/13...88992?s=20

I was going to wait until closer to the actual final tally to post, but since it's been brought up, this page has the live tally as it comes in.

https://www.vpap.org/electionresults/20210508/

Delegate Cox (the current 4th place) is a former Speaker of the House and probably most moderate of the top 4. How his delegates get spread out may decide it (in the 5th round). I don't see a lot of his delegates preferring Chase over the other 2.

If it gets to needing Chase's delegates, who knows what will happen. She's tried to wrap herself in the Trump mantle for a while, while Snyder has tried running as Trump-lite. Her delegates could swing things to Snyder, though, given how they've run.

But results will probably slow down a bit now. It's easier to distribute 50 delegates than it is to distribute 800+ delegates in a round.

Seems awfully complicated with the weighting and all. Seems like a runoff between the top 2 vote-getters and letting the voters decide how to redistribute or change their votes would be simpler/cleaner. But, hey, I respect the rights of VA and all states to hold elections as they wish.

(05-10-2021 04:07 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  Seems awfully complicated with the weighting and all. Seems like a runoff between the top 2 vote-getters and letting the voters decide how to redistribute or change their votes would be simpler/cleaner. But, hey, I respect the rights of VA and all states to hold elections as they wish.

This wasn't a state decision - this was the Republican Party of Virginia that decided on doing a ranked choice voting approach, with county weighting (which I do not begin to really understand) tossed on top of the results.

Traditionally, the party has done either primaries (which the Democratic Party of Virginia is doing in June) or conventions for their statewide nominations.

The story I heard is that the party originally wanted to do a convention and assumed that they could do it at Liberty University. Excepting that Liberty never agreed to it - I had heard that it conflicted with graduation, but that's next weekend, so not sure what the conflict was.

But the GOP wound up publicly announcing the convention at Liberty, only to be told - NO, you can't do it here. And we aren't changing our plans to accommodate you. And with 6 weeks to go, the GOP of VA had to come up with a county-by-county voting location instead of a centralized convention.

The possible moral to this story (besides how the GOP of VA continues to be run by clowns) is that Liberty may be taking back certain levels of independence now.

(05-10-2021 04:07 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  Seems awfully complicated with the weighting and all. Seems like a runoff between the top 2 vote-getters and letting the voters decide how to redistribute or change their votes would be simpler/cleaner. But, hey, I respect the rights of VA and all states to hold elections as they wish.

I agree about the weighting system. I can see an argument for it in cases where there's concern over whether voters are acting in good faith, an issue that we have to some extent in Texas primaries when the Republican slate is mostly uncontested and some Republican voters try to get the Democratic Party to nominate whomever they believe is a worse candidate. At the same time, it also has the effect of cementing power in the constituencies that have historically voted for the party. If that's not a majority (and it was not in either of the most recent elections the Virginia GOP is using in this calculation), the party runs the risk of nominating insular candidates that can't win the general election.

The ranked choice system is a bit more complicated than first past the post or instant runoff, especially in counting, but it also gets outcomes closer to what people want and is cheaper than running a later runoff. Here's an example:


Here, we would have a runoff between Red and Green in a Texas-style election, but ranked-choice would take Blue's fifteen second choice votes like this:


This shows that Blue supporters would much rather have Yellow than either Red or Green. Now, Yellow leads overall with 31 votes to Green's 26 and Red's 21. Instead of eliminating Yellow, we eliminate Red and distribute their votes to either Yellow or Green, whichever each voter named higher, after which one of the remaining two will have a majority.

(05-10-2021 04:26 PM)gsloth Wrote:  

(05-10-2021 04:07 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  Seems awfully complicated with the weighting and all. Seems like a runoff between the top 2 vote-getters and letting the voters decide how to redistribute or change their votes would be simpler/cleaner. But, hey, I respect the rights of VA and all states to hold elections as they wish.

This wasn't a state decision - this was the Republican Party of Virginia that decided on doing a ranked choice voting approach, with county weighting (which I do not begin to really understand) tossed on top of the results.

Traditionally, the party has done either primaries (which the Democratic Party of Virginia is doing in June) or conventions for their statewide nominations.

The story I heard is that the party originally wanted to do a convention and assumed that they could do it at Liberty University. Excepting that Liberty never agreed to it - I had heard that it conflicted with graduation, but that's next weekend, so not sure what the conflict was.

But the GOP wound up publicly announcing the convention at Liberty, only to be told - NO, you can't do it here. And we aren't changing our plans to accommodate you. And with 6 weeks to go, the GOP of VA had to come up with a county-by-county voting location instead of a centralized convention.

The possible moral to this story (besides how the GOP of VA continues to be run by clowns) is that Liberty may be taking back certain levels of independence now.

Thanks for the clarification. My point still stands. It’s a local decision ... even if made by clowns.

(05-10-2021 04:38 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(05-10-2021 04:26 PM)gsloth Wrote:  

(05-10-2021 04:07 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  Seems awfully complicated with the weighting and all. Seems like a runoff between the top 2 vote-getters and letting the voters decide how to redistribute or change their votes would be simpler/cleaner. But, hey, I respect the rights of VA and all states to hold elections as they wish.

This wasn't a state decision - this was the Republican Party of Virginia that decided on doing a ranked choice voting approach, with county weighting (which I do not begin to really understand) tossed on top of the results.

Traditionally, the party has done either primaries (which the Democratic Party of Virginia is doing in June) or conventions for their statewide nominations.

The story I heard is that the party originally wanted to do a convention and assumed that they could do it at Liberty University. Excepting that Liberty never agreed to it - I had heard that it conflicted with graduation, but that's next weekend, so not sure what the conflict was.

But the GOP wound up publicly announcing the convention at Liberty, only to be told - NO, you can't do it here. And we aren't changing our plans to accommodate you. And with 6 weeks to go, the GOP of VA had to come up with a county-by-county voting location instead of a centralized convention.

The possible moral to this story (besides how the GOP of VA continues to be run by clowns) is that Liberty may be taking back certain levels of independence now.

Thanks for the clarification. My point still stands. It’s a local decision ... even if made by clowns.

The weighted county thing is easy to understand ---

For a county that voted more heavily for Trump in the presidential election, that county gets more votes at the nomination.

Works the same way for national presidential nominations as well. The delegates to the Republican national convention are not a pro rata slice of the national population, but a state gets a delegate boost of some factor for voting for the Republican for President in the last election and another boost on the number of Republican Senators from that state. Smaller bonuses for Republican governor and bonuses for Republican majorities in the state legislative bodies.

(05-10-2021 03:43 PM)gsloth Wrote:  I was going to wait until closer to the actual final tally to post, but since it's been brought up, this page has the live tally as it comes in.

https://www.vpap.org/electionresults/20210508/

Delegate Cox (the current 4th place) is a former Speaker of the House and probably most moderate of the top 4. How his delegates get spread out may decide it (in the 5th round). I don't see a lot of his delegates preferring Chase over the other 2.

If it gets to needing Chase's delegates, who knows what will happen. She's tried to wrap herself in the Trump mantle for a while, while Snyder has tried running as Trump-lite. Her delegates could swing things to Snyder, though, given how they've run.

But results will probably slow down a bit now. It's easier to distribute 50 delegates than it is to distribute 800+ delegates in a round.

It will get to Chase's delegates.

One needs about 6500 votes for the majority. The leader (Youngkin) has 4300 or so, and Cox distributes 1800. No way for a majority winner in round 4.

Snyder needs a split of about 1300 to 500 to pull even with Glenn. That will be a hard thing to do.

Honestly, the best to Glenn. I was in his college when he was at Rice --- an amazingly stand up guy. Funny thing is that, iirc, his initial roommate was gay, and I saw on the Rice Facebook page (the million views something or other) announcing Glenn's candidacy that roommate tossing out his unqualified support for Glenn.

It is Youngkin. Snyder has conceded.

Glenn was just interviewed by Bill Hemmer on Fox News this a.m. Impressive. Responded extremely effectively to a highly snarky Terry McAuliffe tweet.

(05-11-2021 09:04 AM)Ricefootballnet Wrote:  Glenn was just interviewed by Bill Hemmer on Fox News this a.m. Impressive. Responded extremely effectively to a highly snarky Terry McAuliffe tweet.

Which one? (McAuliffe sent out several anti-Youngkin tweets today: https://twitter.com/TerryMcAuliffe ) :-)

Mods - please move this thread to the Quad.

(05-11-2021 12:24 PM)Almadenmike Wrote:  

(05-11-2021 09:04 AM)Ricefootballnet Wrote:  Glenn was just interviewed by Bill Hemmer on Fox News this a.m. Impressive. Responded extremely effectively to a highly snarky Terry McAuliffe tweet.

Which one? (McAuliffe sent out several anti-Youngkin tweets today: https://twitter.com/TerryMcAuliffe ) :-)

Mike, it was the one where the last line went something like, “one thing he’s NOT going to be is governor of Virginia…“