(01-12-2021 03:10 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  Wish we would never take transfers. Almost always bad news

What’s it like in that world you live in, skins?

(01-22-2021 08:30 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(01-12-2021 03:10 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  Wish we would never take transfers. Almost always bad news

What’s it like in that world you live in, skins?

it takes a solid effort to be that negative.

Transfers (6)
NOTE: Glenn Beal TE from TxA&M back in the portal due to a new TE commit from Dickerson TX.

Lance LeGendre (4 to play)
6-2 / 205
0.9036 (HS) ****
DUAL QB
Maryland to Louisiana

Matthew Anderson (4 to play)
6-6 / 260
0.8572 (HS) ***
OT
Nebraska to Louisiana

John Stephens (3 to play)
6-4 / 206
0.8735 (HS) ***
WR
TCU to Louisiana

Latrell Bankston (2 to play)
6-0 / 300
0.8789 (HS) ***
DT
Iowa State to Louisiana

Tyrone Lewis (4 to play)
6-0 / 185
0.8573 (HS) ***
Safety
Kansas State to Louisiana

Clinton Anokwuru (4 to play)
6-3 / 235
0.8423 (HS) ***
SDE
Kansas to Louisiana

(01-22-2021 10:38 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(01-22-2021 08:30 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(01-12-2021 03:10 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  Wish we would never take transfers. Almost always bad news

What’s it like in that world you live in, skins?

it takes a solid effort to be that negative.

It’s a slippery slope with transfers, in the right numbers they can help your program, but if you start bringing in too many then you run the risk of pissing off High School coaches which could have a negative effect moving foward, plus, what do you say to a kid who redshirted and was promised more playing time and now watches a transfer take his position? Only thing I hope Clark does is not guarantee a transfer playing time before he even makes it to Boone, if he earns it, fine, but if he gets beat out by a player already on the team then so be it.

(01-22-2021 12:51 PM)moehler Wrote:  

(01-22-2021 10:38 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(01-22-2021 08:30 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(01-12-2021 03:10 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  Wish we would never take transfers. Almost always bad news

What’s it like in that world you live in, skins?

it takes a solid effort to be that negative.

It’s a slippery slope with transfers, in the right numbers they can help your program, but if you start bringing in too many then you run the risk of pissing off High School coaches which could have a negative effect moving foward, plus, what do you say to a kid who redshirted and was promised more playing time and now watches a transfer take his position? Only thing I hope Clark does is not guarantee a transfer playing time before he even makes it to Boone, if he earns it, fine, but if he gets beat out by a player already on the team then so be it.

That's why you don't promise playing time...

You offer a chance to compete, and given what we know of Clarke, App State football, and the culture, no one is promised anything in regards to playing. They are guaranteed a chance to compete which is what brings out the best in these guys.

Head is more of a luxury add it seems as there is no immediate need at safety. 6'4 215 lb safeties who can run don't grow on trees; especially ones who played significant snaps as Redshirt Freshmen and Sophomores; especially ones that went to Stanford and were on All-Academic Team lists.

There is no downside to bringing this guy in. As for QB, was App supposed to go into the season with one guy returning, Navy Schuler? Bringing in Brice to compete with Schuler and the two freshmen is a no brainer as well.

If DBG had developed like people were hoping he would, bringing Brice in likely wouldn't have been required.

(01-22-2021 12:51 PM)moehler Wrote:  

(01-22-2021 10:38 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(01-22-2021 08:30 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(01-12-2021 03:10 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  Wish we would never take transfers. Almost always bad news

What’s it like in that world you live in, skins?

it takes a solid effort to be that negative.

It’s a slippery slope with transfers, in the right numbers they can help your program, but if you start bringing in too many then you run the risk of pissing off High School coaches which could have a negative effect moving foward, plus, what do you say to a kid who redshirted and was promised more playing time and now watches a transfer take his position? Only thing I hope Clark does is not guarantee a transfer playing time before he even makes it to Boone, if he earns it, fine, but if he gets beat out by a player already on the team then so be it.

There is nothing wrong with bringing in transfers. If they are the right kind of transfers. One and done type players, outside of QB is a bit iffy. But taking transfers that have multiple years to learn the system could be just as good as landing a big time HS signee.

Especially ones looking to get closer to home, or coaching changes and P5 programs. Transfers who have been in disciplinary troubles will likely not pan out. It has everything to do with how well your staff can integrate that player into his system.

We have taken a lot of transfers into this class, I’m not sure how much I like them yet. But most of them will have 3 years to play or more. So in that aspect it is a way to build quality depth with players that were highly thought of coming out of HS.

(01-22-2021 02:04 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(01-22-2021 12:51 PM)moehler Wrote:  

(01-22-2021 10:38 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(01-22-2021 08:30 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(01-12-2021 03:10 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  Wish we would never take transfers. Almost always bad news

What’s it like in that world you live in, skins?

it takes a solid effort to be that negative.

It’s a slippery slope with transfers, in the right numbers they can help your program, but if you start bringing in too many then you run the risk of pissing off High School coaches which could have a negative effect moving foward, plus, what do you say to a kid who redshirted and was promised more playing time and now watches a transfer take his position? Only thing I hope Clark does is not guarantee a transfer playing time before he even makes it to Boone, if he earns it, fine, but if he gets beat out by a player already on the team then so be it.

There is nothing wrong with bringing in transfers. If they are the right kind of transfers. One and done type players, outside of QB is a bit iffy. But taking transfers that have multiple years to learn the system could be just as good as landing a big time HS signee.

Especially ones looking to get closer to home, or coaching changes and P5 programs. Transfers who have been in disciplinary troubles will likely not pan out. It has everything to do with how well your staff can integrate that player into his system.

We have taken a lot of transfers into this class, I’m not sure how much I like them yet. But most of them will have 3 years to play or more. So in that aspect it is a way to build quality depth with players that were highly thought of coming out of HS.

I'm highly discouraged about your QB transfer. He should leave ASAP and go to Tulane or something.

(01-22-2021 03:18 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-22-2021 02:04 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(01-22-2021 12:51 PM)moehler Wrote:  

(01-22-2021 10:38 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(01-22-2021 08:30 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  What’s it like in that world you live in, skins?

it takes a solid effort to be that negative.

It’s a slippery slope with transfers, in the right numbers they can help your program, but if you start bringing in too many then you run the risk of pissing off High School coaches which could have a negative effect moving foward, plus, what do you say to a kid who redshirted and was promised more playing time and now watches a transfer take his position? Only thing I hope Clark does is not guarantee a transfer playing time before he even makes it to Boone, if he earns it, fine, but if he gets beat out by a player already on the team then so be it.

There is nothing wrong with bringing in transfers. If they are the right kind of transfers. One and done type players, outside of QB is a bit iffy. But taking transfers that have multiple years to learn the system could be just as good as landing a big time HS signee.

Especially ones looking to get closer to home, or coaching changes and P5 programs. Transfers who have been in disciplinary troubles will likely not pan out. It has everything to do with how well your staff can integrate that player into his system.

We have taken a lot of transfers into this class, I’m not sure how much I like them yet. But most of them will have 3 years to play or more. So in that aspect it is a way to build quality depth with players that were highly thought of coming out of HS.

I'm highly discouraged about your QB transfer. He should leave ASAP and go to Tulane or something.

Lol...I’m not sure he beats out the guys behind Levi Lewis.

(01-22-2021 09:43 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(01-22-2021 03:18 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-22-2021 02:04 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(01-22-2021 12:51 PM)moehler Wrote:  

(01-22-2021 10:38 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  it takes a solid effort to be that negative.

It’s a slippery slope with transfers, in the right numbers they can help your program, but if you start bringing in too many then you run the risk of pissing off High School coaches which could have a negative effect moving foward, plus, what do you say to a kid who redshirted and was promised more playing time and now watches a transfer take his position? Only thing I hope Clark does is not guarantee a transfer playing time before he even makes it to Boone, if he earns it, fine, but if he gets beat out by a player already on the team then so be it.

There is nothing wrong with bringing in transfers. If they are the right kind of transfers. One and done type players, outside of QB is a bit iffy. But taking transfers that have multiple years to learn the system could be just as good as landing a big time HS signee.

Especially ones looking to get closer to home, or coaching changes and P5 programs. Transfers who have been in disciplinary troubles will likely not pan out. It has everything to do with how well your staff can integrate that player into his system.

We have taken a lot of transfers into this class, I’m not sure how much I like them yet. But most of them will have 3 years to play or more. So in that aspect it is a way to build quality depth with players that were highly thought of coming out of HS.

I'm highly discouraged about your QB transfer. He should leave ASAP and go to Tulane or something.

Lol...I’m not sure he beats out the guys behind Levi Lewis.

Depth is depth though, regardless of who is starting.

(01-22-2021 12:22 PM)SlickRick12 Wrote:  Transfers (6)
NOTE: Glenn Beal TE from TxA&M back in the portal due to a new TE commit from Dickerson TX.

Lance LeGendre (4 to play)
6-2 / 205
0.9036 (HS) ****
DUAL QB
Maryland to Louisiana

Matthew Anderson (4 to play)
6-6 / 260
0.8572 (HS) ***
OT
Nebraska to Louisiana

John Stephens (3 to play)
6-4 / 206
0.8735 (HS) ***
WR
TCU to Louisiana

Latrell Bankston (2 to play)
6-0 / 300
0.8789 (HS) ***
DT
Iowa State to Louisiana

Tyrone Lewis (4 to play)
6-0 / 185
0.8573 (HS) ***
Safety
Kansas State to Louisiana

Clinton Anokwuru (4 to play)
6-3 / 235
0.8423 (HS) ***
SDE
Kansas to Louisiana

Is the 260 part right? That must be how much he weighed coming out of high school.

(01-22-2021 12:22 PM)SlickRick12 Wrote:  Transfers (6)
NOTE: Glenn Beal TE from TxA&M back in the portal due to a new TE commit from Dickerson TX.

Lance LeGendre (4 to play)
6-2 / 205
0.9036 (HS) ****
DUAL QB
Maryland to Louisiana

Matthew Anderson (4 to play)
6-6 / 260
0.8572 (HS) ***
OT
Nebraska to Louisiana

John Stephens (3 to play)
6-4 / 206
0.8735 (HS) ***
WR
TCU to Louisiana

Latrell Bankston (2 to play)
6-0 / 300
0.8789 (HS) ***
DT
Iowa State to Louisiana

Tyrone Lewis (4 to play)
6-0 / 185
0.8573 (HS) ***
Safety
Kansas State to Louisiana

Clinton Anokwuru (4 to play)
6-3 / 235
0.8423 (HS) ***
SDE
Kansas to Louisiana

Latrell Bankston only had a cup of coffee with Louisiana...he is now with the Houston Cougars.

Transfer portals are all a complete mess. Looking at the gain / losses for SBC teams, the only one that stands out as significant is Texas St. They have a lot of movement. The rest of the teams seem to be similar.

(01-12-2021 02:19 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(01-12-2021 01:13 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(01-12-2021 12:11 PM)slycat Wrote:  Isn't the App QB from Duke after leaving Clemson?

He isn't "Apps QB" as there will be a real competition for the starting job, but he probably has a leg up against the true fresh and covid-fresh guys on squad.

Exactly. 3rd school transfers have a low chance of working out. Maybe he's your guy, but there's usually a reason why a guy couldn't cut it at two previous stops.

The poor guy was sacked 33 times last year at Duke and was running for his life more times than you can count. He'll be fine.

Initially I though the G5 was screwed with the transfer portal, but it appears a lot of four and high three stars that cant beat out five and four stars at P5's just want to play and realize there best bet is decent G5 teams. P5's cant hold kids hostage anymore.

(01-25-2021 03:19 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  Initially I though the G5 was screwed with the transfer portal, but it appears a lot of four and high three stars that cant beat out five and four stars at P5's just want to play and realize there best bet is decent G5 teams. P5's cant hold kids hostage anymore.

So the question becomes, will more parity be created by this? Alabama pays well enough to retain most of their talent, it appears. Other than that, it seems quite a few of the programs with mostly 4 and 5 star players see guys transfer.

Maybe to a degree it will close the gap, but there usually a reason a kid transfers, injuries, always getting in trouble, or most likely the player’s talent wasn’t up to expectations once he got to the P5 school, not saying you can’t hit the jackpot and get a legitimate 5 star kid, but it’s not common, still think your playing with fire if a third of your team is made up of transfers and JuCos.

(01-12-2021 03:10 AM)eagleskins Wrote:  Wish we would never take transfers. Almost always bad news

In the past this is mostly true, with the portal it's a brave new world. Teams will almost be forced to if 10 kids on your team enter to portal. Didnt we have 9? Some were 5th year covid seniors but, this is the new way of the world in recruiting and team building.

(01-25-2021 04:49 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-25-2021 03:19 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  Initially I though the G5 was screwed with the transfer portal, but it appears a lot of four and high three stars that cant beat out five and four stars at P5's just want to play and realize there best bet is decent G5 teams. P5's cant hold kids hostage anymore.

So the question becomes, will more parity be created by this? Alabama pays well enough to retain most of their talent, it appears. Other than that, it seems quite a few of the programs with mostly 4 and 5 star players see guys transfer.

More parity but the top 10-15 P5 programs or so will still have high level four and five stars battling out for starting jobs. No way to really catch them unless we have a true FCS style playoff that is never going to happen. However good and growing G5's will pull a heck of lot closer to mid-level P5's for sure.

(01-26-2021 07:38 AM)moehler Wrote:  Maybe to a degree it will close the gap, but there usually a reason a kid transfers, injuries, always getting in trouble, or most likely the player’s talent wasn’t up to expectations once he got to the P5 school, not saying you can’t hit the jackpot and get a legitimate 5 star kid, but it’s not common, still think your playing with fire if a third of your team is made up of transfers and JuCos.

Not filling your team over high school recruits, just replacing the kids that leave your team to enter to portal.

Getting four stars on your roster is huge btw, in recruiting outside the top 35 it is rare to land a four-star in traditional recruiting even then some in the top 35 just get one. This might be a very good thing for the G5 and horrible for low and mid-level P5's.