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Every year, once we've wrapped up, and I'm really bored, I start looking at everyone's schedules for the next season. I try to determine, in a perfect world where we all go undefeated OOC, and all those OOC teams are solid, which one of us would have the best resume at the end of the year. Who would benefit the conference most with an undefeated season. i.e. who SHOULD win the AAC in 2021.

Here is my ranking. Tried to also rank opponents in descending order for comparison.

Ranking:
1) Tulsa: Ohio State, Oklahoma State, Arkansas State, UC Davis
2) Cincinnati: Notre Dame, Indiana, Miami (not Miami), Murray State
3) Tulane: Oklahoma, Mississippi, UAB, Morgan State
4) USF: Florida, BYU, NC State, Florida A&M
5) Navy: Notre Dame, Army, Marshall, Air Force
6) UCF: Louisville, Boise, UConn, ?
7) ECU: South Carolina, Marshall, App State, Charleston Southern
8) Memphis: Mississippi State, UTSA, Arkansas State, Nicholls
9) Temple: Boston College, Rutgers, Akron, Wagner
10) SMU: TCU, Louisiana Tech, North Texas, Abilene Christian
11) Houston: Texas Tech, Rice, Grambling State, ?

Notes:
-Holy crap a CCG rematch!!
-Tulsa over Cindy was a tough call. Both had CFP teams on their slate. Tulsa got the nod due to a) ND getting embarrassed and b) Indiana has to go back to play road MAC games next year, and will struggle
-Tulane over USF by a hair. Had to go with the Oklahoma head to head over Florida
-Temple was really tough to rank. They have two P5 teams, but not strong ones
-This is a pretty good slate for showing our stuff. Surprised how much I dropped ECU(who I thought had a halfway decent schedule) as I kept adding teams

Interested to see everyone else's picks, to hear why mine are stupid, to hear how X team should be higher because they have more cache than Tulsa... Go crazy.
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Lot of good OOC games there. We might be a little ambitious next year....
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I think "Ranking non-conference SOS" would be more appropriate for what you are going for.
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(01-07-2021 02:36 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  Every year, once we've wrapped up, and I'm really bored, I start looking at everyone's schedules for the next season. I try to determine, in a perfect world where we all go undefeated OOC, and all those OOC teams are solid, which one of us would have the best resume at the end of the year. Who would benefit the conference most with an undefeated season. i.e. who SHOULD win the AAC in 2021.

Here is my ranking. Tried to also rank opponents in descending order for comparison.

Ranking:
1) Tulsa: Ohio State, Oklahoma State, Arkansas State, UC Davis
2) Cincinnati: Notre Dame, Indiana, Miami (not Miami), Murray State
3) Tulane: Oklahoma, Mississippi, UAB, Morgan State
4) USF: Florida, BYU, NC State, Florida A&M
5) Navy: Notre Dame, Army, Marshall, Air Force
6) UCF: Louisville, Boise, UConn, ?
7) ECU: South Carolina, Marshall, App State, Charleston Southern
8) Memphis: Mississippi State, UTSA, Arkansas State, Nicholls
9) Temple: Duke, Rutgers, UMass, Lafayette
10) SMU: TCU, Louisiana Tech, North Texas, Abilene Christian
11) Houston: Texas Tech, Rice, Grambling State, ?

Notes:
-Holy crap a CCG rematch!!
-Tulsa over Cindy was a tough call. Both had CFP teams on their slate. Tulsa got the nod due to a) ND getting embarrassed and b) Indiana has to go back to play road MAC games next year, and will struggle
-Tulane over USF by a hair. Had to go with the Oklahoma head to head over Florida
-Temple was really tough to rank. They have two P5 teams, but they really couldn't have gone much lower on that totem pole.
-This is a pretty good slate for showing our stuff. Surprised how much I dropped ECU(who I thought had a halfway decent schedule) as I kept adding teams

Interested to see everyone else's picks, to hear why mine are stupid, to hear how X team should be higher because they have more cache than Tulsa... Go crazy.

I'm with you on your OOC schedule rankings.

2 major factors: week 1 poll rankings
The week# vs. OOC big games
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(01-07-2021 03:36 PM)mustangxc Wrote:  I think "Ranking non-conference SOS" would be more appropriate for what you are going for.

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Just hoping we don't have Covid on the schedule again
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For the record, SMU has the perfect schedule for the team we have coming back. We will be down next year, but that schedule will allow us to win enough games to be bowl eligible. It serves no purpose to over-schedule. I realize that schedules are put together years in advance but you get lucky with timing every now and then.
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(01-07-2021 03:36 PM)mustangxc Wrote:  I think "Ranking non-conference SOS" would be more appropriate for what you are going for.

This. Strength of OOC schedule has nothing to do with who wins the conference. Somebody could drop all their OOC games and sweep the conference schedule and CCG and be the champ.

Juan, are you doing “Who has the best shot at a NY6/CFP argument?
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Are we sure non-conference schedule is going to be back next year?

My rankings will be based on who should win the conference based on programs that have had success in the NY6 bowls.

1. UCF
2. Houston
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That’s it, that’s the list. The rest of you are liabilities on the national stage.
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Cincinnati and Tulsa both have some brutal games on that schedule. If either run the table that’ll be quite an achievement.
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(01-07-2021 06:27 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  
(01-07-2021 03:50 PM)Crowleys Ridge Tiger Wrote:  [quote='CoastalJuan' pid='17208281' dateline='1610048202']
Every year, once we've wrapped up, and I'm really bored, I start looking at everyone's schedules for the next season. I try to determine, in a perfect world where we all go undefeated OOC, and all those OOC teams are solid, which one of us would have the best resume at the end of the year. Who would benefit the conference most with an undefeated season. i.e. who SHOULD win the AAC in 2021.

Here is my ranking. Tried to also rank opponents in descending order for comparison.

Ranking:
1) Tulsa: Ohio State, Oklahoma State, Arkansas State, UC Davis
2) Cincinnati: Notre Dame, Indiana, Miami (not Miami), Murray State
3) Tulane: Oklahoma, Mississippi, UAB, Morgan State
4) USF: Florida, BYU, NC State, Florida A&M
5) Navy: Notre Dame, Army, Marshall, Air Force
6) UCF: Louisville, Boise, UConn, ?
7) ECU: South Carolina, Marshall, App State, Charleston Southern
8) Memphis: Mississippi State, UTSA, Arkansas State, Nicholls
9) Temple: Duke, Rutgers, UMass, Lafayette
10) SMU: TCU, Louisiana Tech, North Texas, Abilene Christian
11) Houston: Texas Tech, Rice, Grambling State, ?

Questions:

1. Why do you have USF moving up to #4?

2. Why do you expect UCF, Memphis, and SMU to drop down so far?

Comment:

I hate to say it, as a Temple alum, but with multiple departures of key players and an overall decline in fortunes, there would be reasons to be surprised if Temple doesn't finish in the cellar for the remainder of the current HC's tenure.

Read the post again. Ranked all on hypothetical if they went undefeated based on OOC. Essentially who has the most aggressive schedule, not who’s likely to do it
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(01-07-2021 06:05 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Cincinnati and Tulsa both have some brutal games on that schedule. If either run the table that’ll be quite an achievement.

And Tulsa gets to come play at Nippert Stadium again...this time in front of a sold out house.
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Temple’s OOC schedule next season is Rutgers, Akron, Boston College and Wagner. The teams in the OP are for 2022.
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(01-07-2021 06:33 PM)Sellular1 Wrote:  [quote='jedclampett' pid='17208868' dateline='1610062051']
[quote='Crowley's Ridge Tiger' pid='17208485' dateline='1610052629']
[quote='CoastalJuan' pid='17208281' dateline='1610048202']
Every year, once we've wrapped up, and I'm really bored, I start looking at everyone's schedules for the next season. I try to determine, in a perfect world where we all go undefeated OOC, and all those OOC teams are solid, which one of us would have the best resume at the end of the year. Who would benefit the conference most with an undefeated season. i.e. who SHOULD win the AAC in 2021.

Here is my ranking. Tried to also rank opponents in descending order for comparison.

Ranking:
1) Tulsa: Ohio State, Oklahoma State, Arkansas State, UC Davis
2) Cincinnati: Notre Dame, Indiana, Miami (not Miami), Murray State
3) Tulane: Oklahoma, Mississippi, UAB, Morgan State
4) USF: Florida, BYU, NC State, Florida A&M
5) Navy: Notre Dame, Army, Marshall, Air Force
6) UCF: Louisville, Boise, UConn, ?
7) ECU: South Carolina, Marshall, App State, Charleston Southern
8) Memphis: Mississippi State, UTSA, Arkansas State, Nicholls
9) Temple: Duke, Rutgers, UMass, Lafayette
10) SMU: TCU, Louisiana Tech, North Texas, Abilene Christian
11) Houston: Texas Tech, Rice, Grambling State, ?

Got it - - I agree with the point above that this is essentially a survey of opinions about the FB teams' 2021 S.O.S.

Surprised to see how weak Memphis' and SMU's schedules are.

The UMass and Lafayette games might be the only two that Temple will be able to win next season. The Owls might be one of the teams that benefit the least from the covid eligibility "4+1" rule.
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I don't see us winning the conference or even seriously contending for it next year to be honest. I looked through our entire roster today for next year. Who we lost, who we have coming in, etc. All in all I see us being around the same team we were last year. On offense we will get slightly better at O-line with our guys getting more experience, DG may make a slight leap, but we lose almost all of our skill players and our kicking game is still awful. On defense we will get some guys back but we also lost our best player by far in Grant, along with kicking out our most talented guys on the D-line from the team. All in all I see us going 7-4 to 8-3 ish with loses to Boise, Cincy, and 1-2 of Navy/Temple/Memphis/USF. Zero excitement about next season for me which is sad. I'm more excited about our basketball team at this point. Never thought I would see the day when we're getting 4 star players in basketball before football, but here we are...
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Cincinnati should be pretty good next year.
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(01-08-2021 12:35 AM)UCbball21 Wrote:  Cincinnati should be pretty good next year.

Since Bryant is out, that's all on Ridder's shoulders now.
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(01-08-2021 07:04 AM)Z-Fly Wrote:  
(01-08-2021 12:35 AM)UCbball21 Wrote:  Cincinnati should be pretty good next year.

Since Bryant is out, that's all on Ridder's shoulders now.

if ritter goes down, i think we see an inexperienced, but better talented version, of him: evan prater
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(01-07-2021 05:23 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(01-07-2021 03:36 PM)mustangxc Wrote:  I think "Ranking non-conference SOS" would be more appropriate for what you are going for.

This. Strength of OOC schedule has nothing to do with who wins the conference. Somebody could drop all their OOC games and sweep the conference schedule and CCG and be the champ.

Juan, are you doing “Who has the best shot at a NY6/CFP argument?

Correct. "I try to determine, in a perfect world where we all go undefeated OOC, and all those OOC teams are solid, which one of us would have the best resume at the end of the year."

So, like others have said, it's pretty much who has the best OOC schedule, that would get them the farthest if they ran the table and all the dominoes fell the right way.

For instance, if hypothetically Tulsa doesn't lose a game, hands conference champions Ohio State and Oklahoma State their only loses, it would be extremely difficult to explain ranking them lower than #5 (which in itself would be an abomination).
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(01-07-2021 06:45 PM)malenko2 Wrote:  Temple’s OOC schedule next season is Rutgers, Akron, Boston College and Wagner. The teams in the OP are for 2022.

Ah, went too fast. Thanks for the heads up. I left them at the same rank. Same situation with two P5s, but BC over Duke doesn't really move the needle much.
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