Three other Democrats - Reps. Mikie Sherrill of New Jersey, Abigail Spanberger of Virginia and Elissa Slotkin of Michigan - voted "present," which under House rules did not count against Pelosi. Slotkin voted "present" two years ago, while Sherrill and Spanberger voted for other Democrats for speaker


Pelosi wins tight race for House speaker
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...cid=dt-usc

Even if all 5 of those Dems had supported the GOP candidate for Speaker, Pelosi still would’ve won, 216-214.

And even supposing the absent members had shown up, the Dem. leadership simply would’ve squeezed/cajoled/threatened the dissidents a little bit more. Remember that for people like Slotkin and Spanberger, they’re not actually opposed to the Pelosi agenda. They just realize that Pelosi, personally, is a tough sell in districts (like theirs) where Dems do not have a natural majority. Pelosi did not need their votes and so they were given a pass to do what they wanted.

Absent Abby got a wink and a nod to vote the way she did. They had the numbers, she was given Ye Old “plausible deniability”.

Nothing new under the sun.

So Dims elect a geriatric dingbat to lead their “progressive” House.

Now all that’s left is stealing a couple of Senate races (a piece of cake after the Presidential race) and they’ll be able to elect another decrepit leader like Diane Feinstein to complete their trio of mature morons.

All Old Rich White People. How “progressive” of the Leftists.

(01-04-2021 01:56 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Even if all 5 of those Dems had supported the GOP candidate for Speaker, Pelosi still would’ve won, 216-214.

And even supposing the absent members had shown up, the Dem. leadership simply would’ve squeezed/cajoled/threatened the dissidents a little bit more. Remember that for people like Slotkin and Spanberger, they’re not actually opposed to the Pelosi agenda. They just realize that Pelosi, personally, is a tough sell in districts (like theirs) where Dems do not have a natural majority. Pelosi did not need their votes and so they were given a pass to do what they wanted.

There were 3 others not reported including AOC that originally voted present but changed their votes to vote for Pelosi.

All this garbage about liberals complaining about Pelosi is just that....garbage

(01-04-2021 06:58 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(01-04-2021 01:56 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Even if all 5 of those Dems had supported the GOP candidate for Speaker, Pelosi still would’ve won, 216-214.

And even supposing the absent members had shown up, the Dem. leadership simply would’ve squeezed/cajoled/threatened the dissidents a little bit more. Remember that for people like Slotkin and Spanberger, they’re not actually opposed to the Pelosi agenda. They just realize that Pelosi, personally, is a tough sell in districts (like theirs) where Dems do not have a natural majority. Pelosi did not need their votes and so they were given a pass to do what they wanted.

There were 3 others not reported including AOC that originally voted present but changed their votes to vote for Pelosi.

All this garbage about liberals complaining about Pelosi is just that....garbage

AOC must've been promised something to "come around" to a yes vote for ole Nance.

Just to recap.

There were 430 members present for the vote, so Pelosi needed 216 out of her 221 available

She lost 2 - Jared Golden and Conor Lamb

She had 3 vote PRESENT which means lowered the threshold needed for election from 216 to 214
Those 3 were - Mikie Sherrill of New Jersey, Elissa Slotkin of Michigan and Abigail Spanberger of Virginia.

Had those 3 voted for someone else, Pelosi still would have been elected with 0 room to spare.

Additionally, there were 2 vacancies in LA (due to death) and NY (due to controversy).
Also, 2 Republicans, David Valadao of California and María Elvira Salazar of Florida, were not present because they had tested positive for COVID-19.
The GOP should have had 4 more votes and the quorum should have been 434, meaning the full 218 votes to get elected.

Ron Kind (WI-03) - W by 2.8% - flipped for Pelosi and pretty much sealed the deal she would retain.
Jim Cooper of Tennessee, Jason Crow of Colorado, Kathleen Rice of New York and Kurt Schrader of Oregon were 4 others who flipped for Pelosi when it was clear their vote would be more than symbolic.

However, the math is clear that if the truly Anti Pelosi figures in the party had wanted to, they could have forced at minimum a 2nd ballot.

When you hear any Democrat complain about Pelosi over the next 2 years remember it is all a show.

Tim Pool posted a video claiming the progressives are spineless cowards. They could have forced a floor vote on medicare-for-all but backed down.

He contrasted them against the Republicans who have stated they will defy Mitch and object the various states' electoral votes.

One group spineless, the other group principled.