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Pros and Cons of SEC/ACC Realignment Scenario
Just for thought fodder... Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, and Auburn move to the ACC in exchange for North Carolina and Virginia to the SEC. Who benefits the most with this arrangement? I have some thoughts but will wait for some other initial posts:
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So the SEC will go to 13 and the ACC to 15? I think scheduling and divisions are the real victims. That aside, more OOC rivalries would not be acceptable. Plus, no SEC school is going to walk away from the money.

But, to the spirit of the thread, what if there was a trade?

Let’s say a 3-school swap. I could see something like Kentucky, Missouri, and Vanderbilt joining the ACC with Clemson, Florida St, and North Carolina St joining the SEC. The conferences becomes a little more cohesive than they were. The ACC as an academic and basketball-first conference and the SEC as a football-first conference. If only two schools, then leave out Missouri and North Carolina St.

Divisions with 3-school swap:

SEC
West: Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi St, Texas A&M
East: Clemson, Florida, Florida St, Georgia, North Carolina St, South Carolina, Tennessee

ACC
Atlantic: Boston College, Kentucky, Louisville, Missouri, Syracuse, Vanderbilt, Wake Forest
Coastal: Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami, North Carolina, Pittsburgh, Virginia, Virginia Tech
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RE: Pros and Cons of SEC/ACC Realignment Scenario
(01-03-2021 01:16 AM)bigblueblindness Wrote:  Just for thought fodder... Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, and Auburn move to the ACC in exchange for North Carolina and Virginia to the SEC. Who benefits the most with this arrangement? I have some thoughts but will wait for some other initial posts:

Vanderbilt for N.C. State and no other trades. The ACC gains a baseball power, an AAU school, and access to ad rights in Tennessee. The SEC swaps a bottom dweller in their strongest sport, a bottom dweller in their weakest sport and gains a middler in both while getting in return another solid baseball program.

Tennessee keeps enough of the state for the SEC not to miss Vanderbilt and Duke, North Carolina and Wake Forest is probably still 1 too many North Carolina schools for the ACC.

Vanderbilt is with peers and N.C. State is free of Tar Heel domination. If the SEC needs a private school for freedom of information protection T.C.U. would make a fine travel companion for Oklahoma or Texas should we expand.

Oh, and Nashville is a lovely fan destination for Hill Folk nostalgic for the Grand Ole Opry so Virginians and North Carolinians should love the trip. And on the flip side Nashville natives love New England and Bill Dazzle might just dance a jig to have all of his pigs under one blanket. I hope that makes you hungry Bill!

This is the only ACC/SEC swap I can see where the trade would have benefit to both parties. The ACC loses no market and gains one of 7 million and the SEC loses no market and gains one of 10 million. The ACC improves academically and the SEC improves competitively. South Carolina and N.C. State can become a divisional rivalry, not to mention Tennessee. And Vanderbilt should fare better against an ACC schedule.

And ESPN might likely approve.07-coffee3

At least N.C. State doesn't have a Bulldog or Tiger for a mascot. The SEC has 3 Tigers and 2 Bulldogs. But I warn you the Commodore mascot is really really creepy to the kids!

Oh, I almost forgot to mention that Vanderbilt to be so hoity toity is indeed inclusive. The women's bowling team has 1 national championship which really appeals to some of the beer and brat fans that due to job opportunities in the South is a growing demographic in many of our states. If they only played Softball or had a Bass Fishing team things might have worked out better for them in the SEC.

Oh well that's our final offer take it or leave it!
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I'd rather have UNC and UVA than Auburn and etc in the ACC.

If we're going to lose a NC school, it would probably be NCST because no one else wants Wake.
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RE: Pros and Cons of SEC/ACC Realignment Scenario
(01-03-2021 03:10 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-03-2021 01:16 AM)bigblueblindness Wrote:  Just for thought fodder... Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, and Auburn move to the ACC in exchange for North Carolina and Virginia to the SEC. Who benefits the most with this arrangement? I have some thoughts but will wait for some other initial posts:

Vanderbilt for N.C. State and no other trades. The ACC gains a baseball power, an AAU school, and access to ad rights in Tennessee. The SEC swaps a bottom dweller in their strongest sport, a bottom dweller in their weakest sport and gains a middler in both while getting in return another solid baseball program.

Tennessee keeps enough of the state for the SEC not to miss Vanderbilt and Duke, North Carolina and Wake Forest is probably still 1 too many North Carolina schools for the ACC.

Vanderbilt is with peers and N.C. State is free of Tar Heel domination. If the SEC needs a private school for freedom of information protection T.C.U. would make a fine travel companion for Oklahoma or Texas should we expand.

Oh, and Nashville is a lovely fan destination for Hill Folk nostalgic for the Grand Ole Opry so Virginians and North Carolinians should love the trip. And on the flip side Nashville natives love New England and Bill Dazzle might just dance a jig to have all of his pigs under one blanket. I hope that makes you hungry Bill!

This is the only ACC/SEC swap I can see where the trade would have benefit to both parties. The ACC loses no market and gains one of 7 million and the SEC loses no market and gains one of 10 million. The ACC improves academically and the SEC improves competitively. South Carolina and N.C. State can become a divisional rivalry, not to mention Tennessee. And Vanderbilt should fare better against an ACC schedule.

And ESPN might likely approve.07-coffee3

At least N.C. State doesn't have a Bulldog or Tiger for a mascot. The SEC has 3 Tigers and 2 Bulldogs. But I warn you the Commodore mascot is really really creepy to the kids!

Oh, I almost forgot to mention that Vanderbilt to be so hoity toity is indeed inclusive. The women's bowling team has 1 national championship which really appeals to some of the beer and brat fans that due to job opportunities in the South is a growing demographic in many of our states. If they only played Softball or had a Bass Fishing team things might have worked out better for them in the SEC.

Oh well that's our final offer take it or leave it!

NCST for Vandy.... I'd take it. NCST would be better off as they wouldn't be under UNC's heel so much and with vastly more money they could expand any of their sports. Vandy would be better off competitively in pretty much every sport and both conferences would be better off as each would expand into a new state.

Keep that one in the back pocket in case inflation goes crazy and both the ACC and SEC have to each add 2 new states to renegotiate like last expansion. The only question is how do you get Vandy to give up $30 million a year.

Edit: Also, no disrespect to NCST. I like sharing a conference with them but 4 schools in NC is too many. Does the ACC want to give up it's monopoly in NC to have a presence in Tennessee? That may not go over too well with ACC top brass but I'd take it.
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Kentucky might not win another game. I’m all for it.
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(01-03-2021 01:16 AM)bigblueblindness Wrote:  Just for thought fodder... Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, and Auburn move to the ACC in exchange for North Carolina and Virginia to the SEC. Who benefits the most with this arrangement? I have some thoughts but will wait for some other initial posts:

What's your rationale? Split up in state rivalries? Expand geographical footprints? It would benefit the SEC to expand into more populous states and get closer to the Northeast. The ACC would get Nashville which might be worthwhile. Auburn isn't worth much from a demographic standpoint (they'd get into Alabama but Alabama dominates the state) but a great football program. Don't get me started on Mississippi State.

If any Carolina school is going to the SEC the obvious one would be NC State and if any Virginia school is going to the SEC the obvious one would be Virginia Tech. North Carolina and Virginia are more academic focused and men's basketball focused, seem more comfortable in the ACC, and if they left would probably prefer the Big Ten over the SEC.

I've said before if I were switching ACC and SEC teams I'd want to bring in state rivals together not split them apart. My most obvious trade would be Clemson for Kentucky. Clemson's a football school in a (men's) basketball conference and Kentucky's a basketball school in a football conference.
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RE: Pros and Cons of SEC/ACC Realignment Scenario
(01-03-2021 01:16 AM)bigblueblindness Wrote:  Just for thought fodder... Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, and Auburn move to the ACC in exchange for North Carolina and Virginia to the SEC. Who benefits the most with this arrangement? I have some thoughts but will wait for some other initial posts:

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The best thing about the addition of Vandy would be the closer proximity to Texas, OU, and Kansas. That would allow ESPN to cobble up the SEC and ACC as follows:

ACC
West - Texas, TCU, Kansas, Vandy, Louisville, ND
East - BC, Syracuse, Pitt, VT, UVa, UNC
South - Wake, Duke, Clemson, GT, FSU, Miami

SEC
East - UK, NC State, SC, UGa, UF, Auburn
South - TN, Bama, LSU, Ole Miss, MSU, Ark
East - Oklahoma, OSU, TT, Mizzou, ISU

That's fairly even. Added SEC/ACC cross rivalries would be OU/Texas, Texas/TT, NC State/WF, NC State/UNC, NC State/Duke, Mizzou/Kansas, Vandy/TN, Vandy/Bama, Of course at this point you have the old Southern Conference.
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(01-03-2021 01:16 AM)bigblueblindness Wrote:  Just for thought fodder... Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, and Auburn move to the ACC in exchange for North Carolina and Virginia to the SEC. Who benefits the most with this arrangement? I have some thoughts but will wait for some other initial posts:

Replace Miss St with Ole Miss, and Vanderbilt for Tennessee then that makes for a better discussion along with Auburn to the ACC.
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Why not just expand both conference to 16 teams where in actuality instead of divisions you have 2 conferences under one umbrella. Have some sort of rotation g schedules amongst each umbrella with one another. Have some sort of Semi and Championship games.

You will see I robbed the BigTen to help fill out as well as a Big12 member, but it works or looks good IMO.

Umbrella 1 SEC
Conference #1
Texas A&M, LSU, Arkansas, Miss State, Alabama, Missouri, Auburn, Ole Miss

Conference #2 Kentucky, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Louisville, Georgia, South Carolina, Florida, Clemson

Umbrella #2 ACC
Conference #1 North Carolina, Duke, Virginia, Georgia Tech, Wake Forrest, Florida State, Maryland North Carolina State

Conference #2 Virginia Tech, Miami, Boston College, Penn State, Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, West Virginia
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(01-03-2021 11:18 PM)Statefan Wrote:  The best thing about the addition of Vandy would be the closer proximity to Texas, OU, and Kansas. That would allow ESPN to cobble up the SEC and ACC as follows:

ACC
West - Texas, TCU, Kansas, Vandy, Louisville, ND
East - BC, Syracuse, Pitt, VT, UVa, UNC
South - Wake, Duke, Clemson, GT, FSU, Miami

SEC
East - UK, NC State, SC, UGa, UF, Auburn
South - TN, Bama, LSU, Ole Miss, MSU, Ark
East - Oklahoma, OSU, TT, Mizzou, ISU

That's fairly even. Added SEC/ACC cross rivalries would be OU/Texas, Texas/TT, NC State/WF, NC State/UNC, NC State/Duke, Mizzou/Kansas, Vandy/TN, Vandy/Bama, Of course at this point you have the old Southern Conference.

You should try this:

ACC:
Boston College, Louisville, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Virginia, Virginia Tech
Clemson, Duke, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Miami, North Carolina
Iowa State, Baylor, Kansas State, Texas, T.C.U., Texas Tech
*Notre Dame, *Wake Forest

SEC:
Florida, Georgia, N.C. State, South Carolina, Tennessee, West Virginia
Alabama, Auburn, Kentucky, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi Sate
Arkansas, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M
*Vanderbilt

Now by going to 18 with Vanderbilt and Wake Fake moving to a partial for football only and Notre Dame keeping their normal status ESPN can totally merge the B12 with the SEC and ACC and Texas can keep it's business model intact and still have the RRR as a crossover rival.
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(01-03-2021 01:16 AM)bigblueblindness Wrote:  Just for thought fodder... Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, and Auburn move to the ACC in exchange for North Carolina and Virginia to the SEC. Who benefits the most with this arrangement? I have some thoughts but will wait for some other initial posts:

I'm interested in your thought process.

Personally, I wouldn't make that deal. For one, we would need an extra member by the end of it.

Secondly, UNC and UVA would make a nice combo for expansion, but I wouldn't trade anything we currently have for them.
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Why don’t you move the the SEC East to the ACC, and merge the Big12 with the SEC West

New ACC
Kentucky, Tennessee, Vandy, Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Louisville, Georgia Tech, North Carolina, Duke, NC State, Wake Forrest, Clemson, Florida State, Miami,

( Boston College, Pittsburgh, Syracuse ) move these schools to the BigTen

New SEC
Alabama, Auburn, Miss St, Ole Miss, LSU, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Okla St, Kansas, KSU, Iowa State, Texas, TCU, Baylor, Texas Tech,
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It's easy to create leagues with 18-20 members, but it's not realistic for a conference structure.
14 is difficult, but 16 members will be a max, and Notre Dame will continue to remain a partial with the ACC (but may increase the number of conference games played).

There are two basic scenarios available and they are determined as to where Texas lands:
1-Texas and a friend to the ACC
or
2-Texas and friends to the SEC and one or more SEC teams shift east into the ACC


Example for 1

ACC plus Texas and TCU
SEC plus Oklahoma and Oklahoma State

or

Example for 2

ACC adds Vanderbilt and South Carolina
SEC adds Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma
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(01-03-2021 11:31 PM)BigOwensboroCard Wrote:  
(01-03-2021 01:16 AM)bigblueblindness Wrote:  Just for thought fodder... Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, and Auburn move to the ACC in exchange for North Carolina and Virginia to the SEC. Who benefits the most with this arrangement? I have some thoughts but will wait for some other initial posts:

Replace Miss St with Ole Miss, and Vanderbilt for Tennessee then that makes for a better discussion along with Auburn to the ACC.

What part of the ACC doesn't want anyone from Mississippi does this board not understand? If the SEC gets 2 from the ACC, the ACC gets 2 from the SEC.
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(01-04-2021 12:08 AM)BigOwensboroCard Wrote:  Why not just expand both conference to 16 teams where in actuality instead of divisions you have 2 conferences under one umbrella. Have some sort of rotation g schedules amongst each umbrella with one another. Have some sort of Semi and Championship games.

You will see I robbed the BigTen to help fill out as well as a Big12 member, but it works or looks good IMO.

Umbrella 1 SEC
Conference #1
Texas A&M, LSU, Arkansas, Miss State, Alabama, Missouri, Auburn, Ole Miss

Conference #2 Kentucky, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Louisville, Georgia, South Carolina, Florida, Clemson

Umbrella #2 ACC
Conference #1 North Carolina, Duke, Virginia, Georgia Tech, Wake Forrest, Florida State, Maryland North Carolina State

Conference #2 Virginia Tech, Miami, Boston College, Penn State, Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, West Virginia

Love the idea that the Big Ten is just going to just sit back and let the SEC/ACC just take Penn State. Over our dead bodies!

Rutgers? You can have em.
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(01-04-2021 12:50 AM)BigOwensboroCard Wrote:  Why don’t you move the the SEC East to the ACC, and merge the Big12 with the SEC West

New ACC
Kentucky, Tennessee, Vandy, Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Louisville, Georgia Tech, North Carolina, Duke, NC State, Wake Forrest, Clemson, Florida State, Miami,

( Boston College, Pittsburgh, Syracuse ) move these schools to the BigTen

New SEC
Alabama, Auburn, Miss St, Ole Miss, LSU, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Okla St, Kansas, KSU, Iowa State, Texas, TCU, Baylor, Texas Tech,

Not that your proposal makes any sense, but I'm curious as to your motivation for splitting the SEC up?
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By my calculations, the off-season doesn’t start until Jan. 11th after the final whistle blows.
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(01-03-2021 03:10 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(01-03-2021 01:16 AM)bigblueblindness Wrote:  Just for thought fodder... Mississippi State, Vanderbilt, and Auburn move to the ACC in exchange for North Carolina and Virginia to the SEC. Who benefits the most with this arrangement? I have some thoughts but will wait for some other initial posts:

Vanderbilt for N.C. State and no other trades. The ACC gains a baseball power, an AAU school, and access to ad rights in Tennessee. The SEC swaps a bottom dweller in their strongest sport, a bottom dweller in their weakest sport and gains a middler in both while getting in return another solid baseball program.

Tennessee keeps enough of the state for the SEC not to miss Vanderbilt and Duke, North Carolina and Wake Forest is probably still 1 too many North Carolina schools for the ACC.

Vanderbilt is with peers and N.C. State is free of Tar Heel domination. If the SEC needs a private school for freedom of information protection T.C.U. would make a fine travel companion for Oklahoma or Texas should we expand.

Oh, and Nashville is a lovely fan destination for Hill Folk nostalgic for the Grand Ole Opry so Virginians and North Carolinians should love the trip. And on the flip side Nashville natives love New England and Bill Dazzle might just dance a jig to have all of his pigs under one blanket. I hope that makes you hungry Bill!

This is the only ACC/SEC swap I can see where the trade would have benefit to both parties. The ACC loses no market and gains one of 7 million and the SEC loses no market and gains one of 10 million. The ACC improves academically and the SEC improves competitively. South Carolina and N.C. State can become a divisional rivalry, not to mention Tennessee. And Vanderbilt should fare better against an ACC schedule.

And ESPN might likely approve.07-coffee3

At least N.C. State doesn't have a Bulldog or Tiger for a mascot. The SEC has 3 Tigers and 2 Bulldogs. But I warn you the Commodore mascot is really really creepy to the kids!

Oh, I almost forgot to mention that Vanderbilt to be so hoity toity is indeed inclusive. The women's bowling team has 1 national championship which really appeals to some of the beer and brat fans that due to job opportunities in the South is a growing demographic in many of our states. If they only played Softball or had a Bass Fishing team things might have worked out better for them in the SEC.

Oh well that's our final offer take it or leave it!

That actually makes sense, though I'm not sure you could get the schools to agree to the swap. If the issue is money, and money only, you might persuade Vandy to take a paycut by having them split the difference with NC State. Vandy's payout is decreased by one half the difference between the SEC payout and the ACC payout, and NC State gets a pay raise of that same difference.

But I'm going to be a little contrarian and suggest that, as much as State complains about UNC domination through the shared BOT, they also like the excuse it gives them for their lack of ACC championships. I don't think they would give that up easily, especially when this trade would probably make conference championships even harder to come by.

I know you said this was your final offer, but would you consider sweetening the deal by adding Wake Forest and Kentucky? There's your private school for FOIA purposes and it gives both State and Kentucky another familiar conference rival that they can occasionally beat.
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