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Exclamation The CFP committee's decisions were doubly unfair to Cincinnati.
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The 2020 CFP committee demonstrated bias against Cincinnati in two ways - first, by ranking them significantly lower than the Bearcats had been ranked in the AP and Coaches poll for the past several weeks in a row, during which they had remained undefeated, despite the fact that all but two of the teams that they had ranked ahead of Cincy had been defeated at least once.

They then proceeded, "in their wisdom," to force Cincinnati to play Georgia in the Georgia's Peach Bowl of all places. Taking those decisions which intentionally disadvantaged the sole representative of the G5 conferences in the 2020 NY6 bowls - - was an outrageous violation of the guiding NCAA principle of fairness, and, furthermore, a classic example of unsportsmanlike conduct in the NCAA.

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What makes it most objectionable is that the violation was committed by the CFP committee itself.

There should be a formal motion, during the Annual Congress of the NCAA this month, to set up an inquiry into this matter, paired with a resolution to prevent similar violations of rights in the future.

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The entire practice of locating crucial bowl and tournament games on the home turf of one of the participating teams should be forbidden, or - in the case of the NCAA tournament - held to an absolute minimum.

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Cincy played a great game under adverse circumstances. It is no shame, whatsoever, to lose a game on an opponent team's home turf by 3 points on a last second 53-yard field goal.

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The only shame is that which should be heaped upon the CFP selection committee for their unsportsmanlike conduct. At a minimum, they shouldn't be allowed to remain on the committee going forward.
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RE: The CFP committee cheated the AAC & Cincy by making them play on UGA's home turf.
(01-02-2021 01:19 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  .

The decision to force Cincinnati - - the G5/AAC's sole representative in the 2020 NY6 bowls - - was an outrageous violation of the guiding NCAA principle of fairness, and a classic example of cheating and unsportsmanlike conduct in the NCAA.

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What makes it most objectionable is that the violation was committed by the CFP committee itself.

There should be a formal motion, during the Annual Congress of the NCAA this month, to set up a formal inquiry into this matter, as well as a resolution to never allow the rights of the G5 conferences to be violated in this way again.

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The entire practice of locating crucial bowl and tournament games on the home turf of one of the participating teams should be outlawed, or - in the case of the NCAA tournament - held to an absolute minimum.

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Cincy played a great game under adverse circumstances. It is no shame, whatsoever, to lose a game on an opponent team's home turf by 3 points on a last second 53-yard field goal.

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The only shame is that which should be heaped upon the CFP selection committee for their unsportsmanlike conduct. The name of every committee member who approved the location of the game should be announced to the public, and they should be banned from serving on the committee again in the future.

not ideal but i'd take it. the cincy offense just shat the bed in the 2nd half.
being that we are trying to prove ourselves and at the mercy of the committee we have to play anywhere at anytime attitude since we dont have the luxury of being a big named conference.

also, there were hardly any fans in the stands so it didn't matter and not to mention cincy was actually leading for most of the game. i call this a wash.
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RE: The CFP committee cheated the AAC & Cincy by making them play on UGA's home turf.
Silly OP. The Peach Bowl is where the G5 rep was going to play no matter what as well as the at-large. It just happenned to be Georgia, but with a slightly different season could have been ND or TXAM or for that matter Coastal Carolina. The CFP is a biased elitist entitled club but location was not part of a grand conspiracy.
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RE: The CFP committee cheated the AAC & Cincy by making them play on UGA's home turf.
YEA, uh....NO.....04-cheers
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RE: The CFP committee cheated the AAC & Cincy by making them play on UGA's home turf.
(01-02-2021 01:31 PM)vick mike Wrote:  Silly OP. The Peach Bowl is where the G5 rep was going to play no matter what as well as the at-large. It just happenned (sic) to be Georgia...

You have no valid point, and you're obviously smart enough to know better, Vick. Thus, your response and your similar previous responses can't simply be brushed aside as a minor insult, but a pattern of online stalking, taunting, harassment, and intimidation), for which you should expect to be reported.*

The point of the OP is, clearly, 100% consistent with the fact that collegiate sport commentators have - for decades - been criticizing selection committees for the practice of putting teams at an unfair disadvantage by forcing them, needlessly, to play on an opponent's home turf.

Are you suggesting that it you wouldn't find it the least bit unfair if the NCAA committee were to locate every future NCAA game that your favorite team ever has to play on the home court of their opposing first round team (not an imaginary example, but something that has repeatedly occurred in the past)?

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RE: The CFP committee cheated the AAC & Cincy by making them play on UGA's home turf.
(01-02-2021 01:31 PM)vick mike Wrote:  Silly OP. The Peach Bowl is where the G5 rep was going to play no matter what as well as the at-large. It just happenned to be Georgia, but with a slightly different season could have been ND or TXAM or for that matter Coastal Carolina. The CFP is a biased elitist entitled club but location was not part of a grand conspiracy.

But conspiracies are fun!

And, yeah, location wasn't a factor.
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RE: The CFP committee cheated the AAC & Cincy by making them play on UGA's home turf.
(01-02-2021 02:11 PM)geef Wrote:  
(01-02-2021 01:31 PM)vick mike Wrote:  Silly OP. The Peach Bowl is where the G5 rep was going to play no matter what as well as the at-large. It just happenned to be Georgia, but with a slightly different season could have been ND or TXAM or for that matter Coastal Carolina. The CFP is a biased elitist entitled club but location was not part of a grand conspiracy.

location wasn't a factor.

If you're trying to suggest that the selection committee showed no signs of bias toward Cincinnati, either in their CFP ranking or in making no effort to arrange for them to play their NY6 bowl on a neutral field, you've lost all credibility with me.

The issue isn't just the failure to have Cincy on a neutral field, but the fact that their decision to do so came on the heels of a highly controversial decision to rank Cincy #9, despite the fact that they had been ranked among the nation's top 6 or 7 for weeks and had remained undefeated. This pattern of decisions is a classic example of piling insult upon injury.
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RE: The CFP committee's decisions were doubly unfair to Cincinnati.
(01-02-2021 02:11 PM)geef Wrote:  
(01-02-2021 01:31 PM)vick mike Wrote:  The CFP is a biased elitist entitled club but location was not part of a grand conspiracy.

But conspiracies are fun!

If I'm going to be the only one who stands up to argue Cincinnati's case on behalf of the AAC and the G5, so be it.
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RE: The CFP committee's decisions were doubly unfair to Cincinnati.
(01-02-2021 02:33 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  
(01-02-2021 02:11 PM)geef Wrote:  
(01-02-2021 01:31 PM)vick mike Wrote:  The CFP is a biased elitist entitled club but location was not part of a grand conspiracy.

But conspiracies are fun!

If I'm going to be the only one who stands up to argue Cincinnati's case on behalf of the AAC and the G5, so be it.

Seems like you’ll be the only one reporting me for abuse also, lol.
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RE: The CFP committee's decisions were doubly unfair to Cincinnati.
(01-02-2021 03:25 PM)vick mike Wrote:  
(01-02-2021 02:33 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  
(01-02-2021 02:11 PM)geef Wrote:  
(01-02-2021 01:31 PM)vick mike Wrote:  The CFP is a biased elitist entitled club but location was not part of a grand conspiracy.

But conspiracies are fun!

If I'm going to be the only one who stands up to argue Cincinnati's case on behalf of the AAC and the G5, so be it.

Seems like you’ll be the only one reporting me for abuse also, lol.

Well, I guess that means that you have two choices. You can either keep it up and see what happens, or you can let it go and refocus your posts on AAC conference sports.
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The playoff is going to expand to eight teams sometime. When?
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RE: The CFP committee's decisions were doubly unfair to Cincinnati.
If you want to be considered "big time," then you WIN the games on your schedule.

I'm not whining about playing in the Peach as opposed to the Fiesta.
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^ Well, if you win it again next year, you'll get to play in the Fiesta.
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RE: The CFP committee's decisions were doubly unfair to Cincinnati.
(01-02-2021 01:19 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  The 2020 CFP committee demonstrated bias against Cincinnati in two ways - first, by ranking them significantly lower than the Bearcats had been ranked in the AP and Coaches poll for the past several weeks in a row, during which they had remained undefeated, despite the fact that all but two of the teams that they had ranked ahead of Cincy had been defeated at least once.

First, what if the CFP had ranked Cincy as the AP and Coaches polls had? What difference does it make if Cincy is ranked #6 or #8? Still not going to the playoffs.

Second, disagree about the opponent. If USF ever goes to an NY6 bowl, I would want us to face a true elite blue-blood program, and that's Georgia. I would not want to get matched up with other cinderellas like North Carolina or Iowa State or a 4-2 Oregon team that was barely ranked.

You want a shot at a high ranked, big name opponent, and Cincy got that.

Finally, as others have noted, since the Cotton had hosted the G5 last year and the Fiesta the year before that, it was the Peach Bowl's turn to do so this year. That wasn't changing. Georgia was the logical opponent for that game.

And btw, Georgia's home field is in Athens, about 60 miles east. I know, obviously they will have a very pro-Georgia crowd in Atlanta, but it wasn't literally a home game for Georgia.
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RE: The CFP committee's decisions were doubly unfair to Cincinnati.
(01-02-2021 08:32 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(01-02-2021 01:19 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  The 2020 CFP committee demonstrated bias against Cincinnati in two ways - first, by ranking them significantly lower than the Bearcats had been ranked in the AP and Coaches poll for the past several weeks in a row, during which they had remained undefeated, despite the fact that all but two of the teams that they had ranked ahead of Cincy had been defeated at least once.

First, what if the CFP had ranked Cincy as the AP and Coaches polls had? What difference does it make if Cincy is ranked #6 or #8? Still not going to the playoffs.

Second, disagree about the opponent. If USF ever goes to an NY6 bowl, I would want us to face a true elite blue-blood program, and that's Georgia. I would not want to get matched up with other cinderellas like North Carolina or Iowa State or a 4-2 Oregon team that was barely ranked.

You want a shot at a high ranked, big name opponent, and Cincy got that.

Finally, as others have noted, since the Cotton had hosted the G5 last year and the Fiesta the year before that, it was the Peach Bowl's turn to do so this year. That wasn't changing. Georgia was the logical opponent for that game.

And btw, Georgia's home field is in Athens, about 60 miles east. I know, obviously they will have a very pro-Georgia crowd in Atlanta, but it wasn't literally a home game for Georgia.

I want to make sure I'm on record when I agree with quo
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(01-02-2021 09:13 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(01-02-2021 08:32 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(01-02-2021 01:19 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  The 2020 CFP committee demonstrated bias against Cincinnati in two ways - first, by ranking them significantly lower than the Bearcats had been ranked in the AP and Coaches poll for the past several weeks in a row, during which they had remained undefeated, despite the fact that all but two of the teams that they had ranked ahead of Cincy had been defeated at least once.

First, what if the CFP had ranked Cincy as the AP and Coaches polls had? What difference does it make if Cincy is ranked #6 or #8? Still not going to the playoffs.

Second, disagree about the opponent. If USF ever goes to an NY6 bowl, I would want us to face a true elite blue-blood program, and that's Georgia. I would not want to get matched up with other cinderellas like North Carolina or Iowa State or a 4-2 Oregon team that was barely ranked.

You want a shot at a high ranked, big name opponent, and Cincy got that.

Finally, as others have noted, since the Cotton had hosted the G5 last year and the Fiesta the year before that, it was the Peach Bowl's turn to do so this year. That wasn't changing. Georgia was the logical opponent for that game.

And btw, Georgia's home field is in Athens, about 60 miles east. I know, obviously they will have a very pro-Georgia crowd in Atlanta, but it wasn't literally a home game for Georgia.

I want to make sure I'm on record when I agree with quo

noted.
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(01-02-2021 04:17 PM)pvtlamb Wrote:  The playoff is going to expand to eight teams sometime. When?

When SEC teams get left out of it two times in a row. Then suddenly it won't be a fair system
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I believe there is one glaring flaw in the OP's logic. The CFP does not fall under the auspices of the NCAA. It is an independent entity whose sole function is to determine the four contestants in the CFP, and then lay out the various bowl game participants based on bowl/conference contracts as applicable. Lobbying the NCAA to punish or adjudicate matters of the CPF is useless, as the NCAA has washed it's hands of determining a college football champion and delegated it to the CFP and ESPN.

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Cincinnati fans do not want or need this fight Jed.
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