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(01-03-2021 11:50 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  The bad part wasn't losing to Georgia. It was losing to them when half their starters opted out.

If anything I think the opposite is true. UGA did not the the number of opt outs you typically see in these things. There were a few guys expected to leave that actually stayed - like ojulari who killed our backup tackle
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(01-03-2021 12:19 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  
(01-03-2021 11:50 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  The bad part wasn't losing to Georgia. It was losing to them when half their starters opted out.

Which starters were out? Cinci had none out?

For UC 2 All American list guys in the secondary in Wiggins and Gardner, starting center Renfro was out sick and didn’t travel, starting RB Doaks was out. None of those were disclosed until right before kickoff.

I’d say guys not playing on both teams was pretty even.
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(01-03-2021 01:31 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  
(01-03-2021 12:19 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  
(01-03-2021 11:50 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  The bad part wasn't losing to Georgia. It was losing to them when half their starters opted out.

Which starters were out? Cinci had none out?

For UC 2 All American list guys in the secondary in Wiggins and Gardner, starting center Renfro was out sick and didn’t travel, starting RB Doaks was out. None of those were disclosed until right before kickoff.

I’d say guys not playing on both teams was pretty even.

And losing an offensive lineman to targeting early in the game, then being replaced by a guy that had some very costly illegal procedure penalties and gave up several sacks.
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(01-03-2021 01:31 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  
(01-03-2021 12:19 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  
(01-03-2021 11:50 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  The bad part wasn't losing to Georgia. It was losing to them when half their starters opted out.

Which starters were out? Cinci had none out?

For UC 2 All American list guys in the secondary in Wiggins and Gardner, starting center Renfro was out sick and didn’t travel, starting RB Doaks was out. None of those were disclosed until right before kickoff.

I’d say guys not playing on both teams was pretty even.

UC DL Malik Vann, a rotational guy on the DL, also did not play due to injury. As noted above, it was pretty even in terms of guys being out.
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(01-02-2021 12:24 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  
(01-01-2021 05:50 PM)vabearcat Wrote:  
(01-01-2021 03:57 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  
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(01-01-2021 03:46 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  Snapped it with 10 secs on the clock. Dumb timeout. This one is on the coaches. Feel for the players. Where are my fun cincy fans?

ECU will never see a New Years Bowl game ...we went toe to toe with a Blue Blood..what has ECU done? by the way ...way to support the conference...

There it is. That classic arrogance that brings me back to this board after months-long breaks. Happy New Year!

Edit: to answer your question, won the peach bowl.

Pointing out that ECU has done nothing, zilch, nada, ever in this conference is not arrogance. It's simply pointing out facts. ECU will be in a New Year's Six bowl about the same time as the Afghanistan Space Agency lands a member of its Navy on Mars.

And yet we own the record head to head. Historically one of the toughest OOC schedules while you play your yearly games against Miami OH. Someone posts a baseball thread and UC fans are quick to take their pot shots, I'll take mine..

For the life of me, I can’t understand ECU fans taking shots at the programs that actually do something for the conference. Has your over all suckitude in everything just made you miserable. It comes off as whiny and desperate. No one cares about your one shining Peach bowl moment 50 years ago. Your football program is historically right around 500. Yay? You have absolutely sucked gonads since you were allowed to join this conference. Freaking laughable.
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(01-03-2021 02:31 PM)bearcatfan Wrote:  
(01-03-2021 01:31 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  
(01-03-2021 12:19 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  
(01-03-2021 11:50 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  The bad part wasn't losing to Georgia. It was losing to them when half their starters opted out.

Which starters were out? Cinci had none out?

For UC 2 All American list guys in the secondary in Wiggins and Gardner, starting center Renfro was out sick and didn’t travel, starting RB Doaks was out. None of those were disclosed until right before kickoff.

I’d say guys not playing on both teams was pretty even.

And losing an offensive lineman to targeting early in the game, then being replaced by a guy that had some very costly illegal procedure penalties and gave up several sacks.

But see, that's how you play into the SEC's narrative.
We can't compete with P5's because we don't have the depth that they have. Not a good excuse. I say, you guys competed FINE. Just should have won the game in the last 2 minutes, and everybody who actually watched the game KNOWS it. Just bad judgment on the part of Ritter throwing that pass instead of tucking and running for the first down. A far cry from our loss last year by 2 scores.
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(01-03-2021 09:19 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(01-03-2021 02:31 PM)bearcatfan Wrote:  
(01-03-2021 01:31 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  
(01-03-2021 12:19 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  
(01-03-2021 11:50 AM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  The bad part wasn't losing to Georgia. It was losing to them when half their starters opted out.

Which starters were out? Cinci had none out?

For UC 2 All American list guys in the secondary in Wiggins and Gardner, starting center Renfro was out sick and didn’t travel, starting RB Doaks was out. None of those were disclosed until right before kickoff.

I’d say guys not playing on both teams was pretty even.

And losing an offensive lineman to targeting early in the game, then being replaced by a guy that had some very costly illegal procedure penalties and gave up several sacks.

But see, that's how you play into the SEC's narrative.
We can't compete with P5's because we don't have the depth that they have. Not a good excuse. I say, you guys competed FINE. Just should have won the game in the last 2 minutes, and everybody who actually watched the game KNOWS it. Just bad judgment on the part of Ritter throwing that pass instead of tucking and running for the first down. A far cry from our loss last year by 2 scores.

GA only led for the final 0:03 of the game to go ahead by 1 point with a 50+ yard FG. I'd say our depth held up pretty well.
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(01-04-2021 05:41 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  
(01-03-2021 09:19 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(01-03-2021 02:31 PM)bearcatfan Wrote:  
(01-03-2021 01:31 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  
(01-03-2021 12:19 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  Which starters were out? Cinci had none out?

For UC 2 All American list guys in the secondary in Wiggins and Gardner, starting center Renfro was out sick and didn’t travel, starting RB Doaks was out. None of those were disclosed until right before kickoff.

I’d say guys not playing on both teams was pretty even.

And losing an offensive lineman to targeting early in the game, then being replaced by a guy that had some very costly illegal procedure penalties and gave up several sacks.

But see, that's how you play into the SEC's narrative.
We can't compete with P5's because we don't have the depth that they have. Not a good excuse. I say, you guys competed FINE. Just should have won the game in the last 2 minutes, and everybody who actually watched the game KNOWS it. Just bad judgment on the part of Ritter throwing that pass instead of tucking and running for the first down. A far cry from our loss last year by 2 scores.

GA only led for the final 0:03 of the game to go ahead by 1 point with a 50+ yard FG. I'd say our depth held up pretty well.

No, they [HE] didn't. Your replacement left tackle was responsible for at least 10 penalty yards that I can remember, and I only watched the 4th quarter. And Ritter was rushed/hurried from the left side multiple times. He may very well been the sole reason GA was able to close the gap. How many points did you score in the second half with him on the line???

And here's proof of what I'm saying as far as the media's spin on depth:

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...bowl/live/

Quote:Ridder is a flat-out baller. He threw for 206 yards and two touchdowns, and was the catalyst for a Bearcats team that didn't relinquish control until the second half. But the loss of all-conference offensive lineman James Hudson to a targeting foul late in the second quarter proved costly and led to the massive fire he felt in the final two frames. That's a depth issue -- which is usually a problem for Group of Five teams vs. Power Five teams. Despite that, Cincinnati played its tail off thanks to top-notch coaching from Fickell and his staff, veteran leadership and remarkable execution.
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Peach Bowl was the most watched of the non-Playoff New Year's Six bowls. So much for people not caring about G5 teams.
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(01-05-2021 07:58 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Stewart Mandel

Peach Bowl was the most watched of the non-Playoff New Year's Six bowls. So much for people not caring about G5 teams.

Over 8 million viewers. Right behind UCF's two NY6 bowls. All three better than Boise's CFP era Fiesta.
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(01-05-2021 08:25 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(01-05-2021 07:58 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Stewart Mandel

Peach Bowl was the most watched of the non-Playoff New Year's Six bowls. So much for people not caring about G5 teams.

Over 8 million viewers. Right behind UCF's two NY6 bowls. All three better than Boise's CFP era Fiesta.

Per ESPN, it's the most watched G5 vs P5 NY6 in CFP era. So it beats out UCF vs Auburn and UCF vs LSU. I think UCF had more viewers for their game against Baylor though
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(01-05-2021 11:02 PM)Cattidude Wrote:  
(01-05-2021 08:25 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(01-05-2021 07:58 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Stewart Mandel

Peach Bowl was the most watched of the non-Playoff New Year's Six bowls. So much for people not caring about G5 teams.

Over 8 million viewers. Right behind UCF's two NY6 bowls. All three better than Boise's CFP era Fiesta.

Per ESPN, it's the most watched G5 vs P5 NY6 in CFP era. So it beats out UCF vs Auburn and UCF vs LSU. I think UCF had more viewers for their game against Baylor though

Edited to add - I finally got to the ESPN PR press release. 8.72 million viewers across all MegaCast Platforms -- the showbuzzdaily number below would be from the main ESPN network only

Hmmmm...the sportsmediawatch article says 8.72 million viewers https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2021/01...iewership/

It doesn't annotate an update, but I originally read it as in keeping with the showbuzzdaily number of 8.311 million viewers.
http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/sh...-2021.html

Others:
UCF-LSU 8.471 million
UCF-Auburn 8.377 million
Boise-Arizon 7.406 million
Memphis-PSU 6.22 million
Houston-FSU 5.604 million
WMU-Wisconsin 5.442 million
https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college...tings-bcs/

BCS-era UCF-Baylor was 11.3 million

I'll happily mea culpa if this year's final number is the higher.

Either way, AAC in the NY6 are #1-3, and #5-6 of non-contract-bowl-conference teams in CFP NY6 bowls.

Edited to add:
In keeping with Mandel's point, 2020 non-semi-final NY6 games:
Peach Bowl Cincinnati vs UGA 8.xx million viewers
Orange Bowl UNC vs Texas A&M 7.58 million
Fiesta Bowl ISU vs Oregon 6.68 million
Cotton Bowl UF vs Oklahoma 5.77 million
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(01-05-2021 12:06 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(01-04-2021 05:41 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  
(01-03-2021 09:19 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(01-03-2021 02:31 PM)bearcatfan Wrote:  
(01-03-2021 01:31 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  For UC 2 All American list guys in the secondary in Wiggins and Gardner, starting center Renfro was out sick and didn’t travel, starting RB Doaks was out. None of those were disclosed until right before kickoff.

I’d say guys not playing on both teams was pretty even.

And losing an offensive lineman to targeting early in the game, then being replaced by a guy that had some very costly illegal procedure penalties and gave up several sacks.

But see, that's how you play into the SEC's narrative.
We can't compete with P5's because we don't have the depth that they have. Not a good excuse. I say, you guys competed FINE. Just should have won the game in the last 2 minutes, and everybody who actually watched the game KNOWS it. Just bad judgment on the part of Ritter throwing that pass instead of tucking and running for the first down. A far cry from our loss last year by 2 scores.

GA only led for the final 0:03 of the game to go ahead by 1 point with a 50+ yard FG. I'd say our depth held up pretty well.

No, they [HE] didn't. Your replacement left tackle was responsible for at least 10 penalty yards that I can remember, and I only watched the 4th quarter. And Ritter was rushed/hurried from the left side multiple times. He may very well been the sole reason GA was able to close the gap. How many points did you score in the second half with him on the line???

And here's proof of what I'm saying as far as the media's spin on depth:

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...bowl/live/

Quote:Ridder is a flat-out baller. He threw for 206 yards and two touchdowns, and was the catalyst for a Bearcats team that didn't relinquish control until the second half. But the loss of all-conference offensive lineman James Hudson to a targeting foul late in the second quarter proved costly and led to the massive fire he felt in the final two frames. That's a depth issue -- which is usually a problem for Group of Five teams vs. Power Five teams. Despite that, Cincinnati played its tail off thanks to top-notch coaching from Fickell and his staff, veteran leadership and remarkable execution.

When Metz wasn't getting called for false starts and holding, he was getting beaten like a drum on the end. And people wonder why the offense couldn't generate any yards in the 2nd half.
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(01-05-2021 11:29 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Edited to add:
In keeping with Mandel's point, 2020 non-semi-final NY6 games:
Peach Bowl Cincinnati vs UGA 8.xx million viewers
Orange Bowl UNC vs Texas A&M 7.58 million
Fiesta Bowl ISU vs Oregon 6.68 million
Cotton Bowl UF vs Oklahoma 5.77 million

I'd say it was an advantage playing on New Year's Day, and as the lead-in to the two playoff games.

Georgia is often a big TV draw, their CFP title game vs Alabama is easily the highest-rated one since the first one. And undoubtedly many were interested in how unbeaten Cincy would fare in a big bowl game. But impressive any way you slice it.
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(01-07-2021 07:35 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(01-05-2021 11:29 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Edited to add:
In keeping with Mandel's point, 2020 non-semi-final NY6 games:
Peach Bowl Cincinnati vs UGA 8.xx million viewers
Orange Bowl UNC vs Texas A&M 7.58 million
Fiesta Bowl ISU vs Oregon 6.68 million
Cotton Bowl UF vs Oklahoma 5.77 million

I'd say it was an advantage playing on New Year's Day, and as the lead-in to the two playoff games.

Georgia is often a big TV draw, their CFP title game vs Alabama is easily the highest-rated one since the first one. And undoubtedly many were interested in how unbeaten Cincy would fare in a big bowl game. But impressive any way you slice it.

Auburn and Northwestern were playing at the same time as the UGA-UC game.
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