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CBS Article: most disappointing college basketball teams in 2020-21 season
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Penny Hardaway has led Memphis to two 20-win seasons, seen two signees get taken in the first round of the NBA Draft and is continuing to recruit at a high level. Yet it is clear that something needs to change if Hardaway's third season -- and his coaching tenure -- is going to pan out the way Memphians hoped it would.

As evidenced once again in an ugly 58-57 home win over South Florida on Tuesday night, the Memphis offense is broken. The Tigers rank 196th nationally in points per game, 261st in 3-point shooting percentage, 265th in 2-point shooting percentage and 307th in free-throw shooting percentage as of Tuesday morning. Similar struggles explain why Memphis did not reach its potential last season, and poor offense is the reason why the Tigers already have four losses this year despite beginning the season only two spots out of the AP poll.

Maybe "broken" isn't the perfect term because it implies the item in question was whole at one time. But the Tigers haven't run a coherent offensive system at any point during Hardaway's tenure. He deserves credit for the job he's done in recruiting and in building a gritty defense. But until he turns the offense over to an experienced college assistant, Memphis feels destined to continue falling short of expectations.
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If we shoot 45% from the field, 35% from outside and 75% from the foul line, we average 8 points more per game based on the number of shots we've taken. Part of it is poor shot selection; but most of it is bad shooting from kids that were great shooters in high school. Crazy.
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Win at Temple, tough task, and things immediately feel better
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(12-30-2020 09:36 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If we shoot 45% from the field, 35% from outside and 75% from the foul line, we average 8 points more per game based on the number of shots we've taken. Part of it is poor shot selection; but most of it is bad shooting from kids that were great shooters in high school. Crazy.

If (LOL) we shoot 95%--95%--95%---we average 1283 points more per game---If If If always IF
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(12-30-2020 09:36 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If we shoot 45% from the field, 35% from outside and 75% from the foul line, we average 8 points more per game based on the number of shots we've taken. Part of it is poor shot selection; but most of it is bad shooting from kids that were great shooters in high school. Crazy.

Probably has something to do with the defenses they saw in high school weren’t as good as what they see now. Probably has more to do with the fact that there’s no structured offense to get them open looks. Dribble dribble jack up a 3.
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(12-30-2020 10:23 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 09:36 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If we shoot 45% from the field, 35% from outside and 75% from the foul line, we average 8 points more per game based on the number of shots we've taken. Part of it is poor shot selection; but most of it is bad shooting from kids that were great shooters in high school. Crazy.

Probably has something to do with the defenses they saw in high school weren’t as good as what they see now. Probably has more to do with the fact that there’s no structured offense to get them open looks. Dribble dribble jack up a 3.

It is a lot of wide open shots.
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Fair article.
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(12-30-2020 10:23 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 09:36 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If we shoot 45% from the field, 35% from outside and 75% from the foul line, we average 8 points more per game based on the number of shots we've taken. Part of it is poor shot selection; but most of it is bad shooting from kids that were great shooters in high school. Crazy.

Probably has something to do with the defenses they saw in high school weren’t as good as what they see now. Probably has more to do with the fact that there’s no structured offense to get them open looks. Dribble dribble jack up a 3.

There is zero structure. This works when you have an all star team like East vs any other local high school team. Makes you look smart. But this nonsense doesn’t work in the NCAA. Unless we play teams like Central Ark (which we were losing to at half).
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RE: CBS Article: most disappointing college basketball teams in 2020-21 season
(12-30-2020 10:39 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 10:23 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 09:36 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If we shoot 45% from the field, 35% from outside and 75% from the foul line, we average 8 points more per game based on the number of shots we've taken. Part of it is poor shot selection; but most of it is bad shooting from kids that were great shooters in high school. Crazy.

Probably has something to do with the defenses they saw in high school weren’t as good as what they see now. Probably has more to do with the fact that there’s no structured offense to get them open looks. Dribble dribble jack up a 3.

There is zero structure. This works when you have an all star team like East vs any other local high school team. Makes you look smart. But this nonsense doesn’t work in the NCAA. Unless we play teams like Central Ark (which we were losing to at half).

Don't worry the Lion set will take care of that issue.
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(12-30-2020 10:39 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 10:23 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 09:36 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If we shoot 45% from the field, 35% from outside and 75% from the foul line, we average 8 points more per game based on the number of shots we've taken. Part of it is poor shot selection; but most of it is bad shooting from kids that were great shooters in high school. Crazy.

Probably has something to do with the defenses they saw in high school weren’t as good as what they see now. Probably has more to do with the fact that there’s no structured offense to get them open looks. Dribble dribble jack up a 3.

There is zero structure. This works when you have an all star team like East vs any other local high school team. Makes you look smart. But this nonsense doesn’t work in the NCAA. Unless we play teams like Central Ark (which we were losing to at half).

Only Wiseman, Lomax and Dandridge played at East.
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(12-30-2020 10:47 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 10:39 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 10:23 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 09:36 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If we shoot 45% from the field, 35% from outside and 75% from the foul line, we average 8 points more per game based on the number of shots we've taken. Part of it is poor shot selection; but most of it is bad shooting from kids that were great shooters in high school. Crazy.

Probably has something to do with the defenses they saw in high school weren’t as good as what they see now. Probably has more to do with the fact that there’s no structured offense to get them open looks. Dribble dribble jack up a 3.

There is zero structure. This works when you have an all star team like East vs any other local high school team. Makes you look smart. But this nonsense doesn’t work in the NCAA. Unless we play teams like Central Ark (which we were losing to at half).

Only Wiseman, Lomax and Dandridge played at East.

Along with Chandler Lawson and Ryan Boyce.
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(12-30-2020 10:44 PM)dwash Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 10:39 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 10:23 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 09:36 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If we shoot 45% from the field, 35% from outside and 75% from the foul line, we average 8 points more per game based on the number of shots we've taken. Part of it is poor shot selection; but most of it is bad shooting from kids that were great shooters in high school. Crazy.

Probably has something to do with the defenses they saw in high school weren’t as good as what they see now. Probably has more to do with the fact that there’s no structured offense to get them open looks. Dribble dribble jack up a 3.

There is zero structure. This works when you have an all star team like East vs any other local high school team. Makes you look smart. But this nonsense doesn’t work in the NCAA. Unless we play teams like Central Ark (which we were losing to at half).

Don't worry the Lion set will take care of that issue.

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(12-30-2020 10:44 PM)dwash Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 10:39 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 10:23 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 09:36 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If we shoot 45% from the field, 35% from outside and 75% from the foul line, we average 8 points more per game based on the number of shots we've taken. Part of it is poor shot selection; but most of it is bad shooting from kids that were great shooters in high school. Crazy.

Probably has something to do with the defenses they saw in high school weren’t as good as what they see now. Probably has more to do with the fact that there’s no structured offense to get them open looks. Dribble dribble jack up a 3.

There is zero structure. This works when you have an all star team like East vs any other local high school team. Makes you look smart. But this nonsense doesn’t work in the NCAA. Unless we play teams like Central Ark (which we were losing to at half).

Don't worry the Lion set will take care of that issue.
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(12-30-2020 10:56 PM)dwash Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 10:47 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 10:39 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 10:23 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 09:36 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If we shoot 45% from the field, 35% from outside and 75% from the foul line, we average 8 points more per game based on the number of shots we've taken. Part of it is poor shot selection; but most of it is bad shooting from kids that were great shooters in high school. Crazy.

Probably has something to do with the defenses they saw in high school weren’t as good as what they see now. Probably has more to do with the fact that there’s no structured offense to get them open looks. Dribble dribble jack up a 3.

There is zero structure. This works when you have an all star team like East vs any other local high school team. Makes you look smart. But this nonsense doesn’t work in the NCAA. Unless we play teams like Central Ark (which we were losing to at half).

Only Wiseman, Lomax and Dandridge played at East.

Along with Chandler Lawson and Ryan Boyce.

...and Anthony Douglas
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(12-30-2020 10:56 PM)dwash Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 10:47 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 10:39 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 10:23 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 09:36 PM)Stammers Wrote:  If we shoot 45% from the field, 35% from outside and 75% from the foul line, we average 8 points more per game based on the number of shots we've taken. Part of it is poor shot selection; but most of it is bad shooting from kids that were great shooters in high school. Crazy.

Probably has something to do with the defenses they saw in high school weren’t as good as what they see now. Probably has more to do with the fact that there’s no structured offense to get them open looks. Dribble dribble jack up a 3.

There is zero structure. This works when you have an all star team like East vs any other local high school team. Makes you look smart. But this nonsense doesn’t work in the NCAA. Unless we play teams like Central Ark (which we were losing to at half).

Only Wiseman, Lomax and Dandridge played at East.

Along with Chandler Lawson and Ryan Boyce.

Chandler Lawson and Ryan Boyce are huge reasons why LQ and Boogie can't shoot from outside, and Dandridge, Williams, Nolley and DJ miss so many easy shots from close in. They are at fault for the team being bad at shooting free throws.

Got it. 01-wingedeagle
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(12-30-2020 11:10 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 10:56 PM)dwash Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 10:47 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 10:39 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 10:23 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Probably has something to do with the defenses they saw in high school weren’t as good as what they see now. Probably has more to do with the fact that there’s no structured offense to get them open looks. Dribble dribble jack up a 3.

There is zero structure. This works when you have an all star team like East vs any other local high school team. Makes you look smart. But this nonsense doesn’t work in the NCAA. Unless we play teams like Central Ark (which we were losing to at half).

Only Wiseman, Lomax and Dandridge played at East.

Along with Chandler Lawson and Ryan Boyce.

Chandler Lawson and Ryan Boyce are huge reasons why LQ and Boogie can't shoot from outside, and Dandridge, Williams, Nolley and DJ miss so many easy shots from close in. They are at fault for the team being bad at shooting free throws.

Got it. 01-wingedeagle

My point is when East was dominating local teams (or state teams), they were playing teams that would be lucky for anyone on the team to get a D1 look.

I think we have good players but a lousy coach. We all love Penny, but being a great player doesn’t make you a good coach.
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(12-30-2020 09:49 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Win at Temple, tough task, and things immediately feel better

Temple is expected to be very bad this year
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(12-30-2020 11:16 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 11:10 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 10:56 PM)dwash Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 10:47 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(12-30-2020 10:39 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  There is zero structure. This works when you have an all star team like East vs any other local high school team. Makes you look smart. But this nonsense doesn’t work in the NCAA. Unless we play teams like Central Ark (which we were losing to at half).

Only Wiseman, Lomax and Dandridge played at East.

Along with Chandler Lawson and Ryan Boyce.

Chandler Lawson and Ryan Boyce are huge reasons why LQ and Boogie can't shoot from outside, and Dandridge, Williams, Nolley and DJ miss so many easy shots from close in. They are at fault for the team being bad at shooting free throws.

Got it. 01-wingedeagle

My point is when East was dominating local teams (or state teams), they were playing teams that would be lucky for anyone on the team to get a D1 look.

I think we have good players but a lousy coach. We all love Penny, but being a great player doesn’t make you a good coach.

What does that have to do with players missing free throws and wide open shots? We are shooting 29.9% from outside and 53.4% of our free throws in our last 4 games. What does that have to do with East?
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