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Maybe we can finally move up in our conference standing if he finally cashes in all those legion field seat certificates he’s been holding onto all these years...
01-01-2021 12:33 AM
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(12-31-2020 10:08 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  UAB QB's since The Return:

2017 16 TD 5 INT
2018 18 TD 16 INT
2019 20 TD 20 INT
2020 14 TD 9 INT*

We need better QB's or better QB coaching or both. We're close in a lot of other areas.

TJ3 was 7-1 for the season which is improved. I don't doubt Tylers ability to lead the team. I just wonder if his body can hold up. He's had a lot of injuries in his career.


My point is this:

Let’s say this year we win the West Div for 4th year in a row, win CCG, finish in top 25. Our only losses are @UGA and [pick 1 random CUSA road game]. So we’re 11-2 headed into bowl season. But we do it avg 28.3 ppg and allowing 17.5 ppg. If you’re saying we can’t do that then that’s a subjective argument (but I suggest you check those 2 stats the last few years) especially if the subject is we don’t have the QB or OC to do so. But if you’re saying another conf, say AAC, skips us as a potential add or the college football world yawns because we didn’t beat our opps by an avg 25-30 points per game, that’s just silliness. There are factors that don’t include sports at all when it comes to expansion and we are not only not falling behind our peers, we’re rapidly closing the gap.


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(01-01-2021 05:25 AM)blazr Wrote:  
(12-31-2020 10:08 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  UAB QB's since The Return:

2017 16 TD 5 INT
2018 18 TD 16 INT
2019 20 TD 20 INT
2020 14 TD 9 INT*

We need better QB's or better QB coaching or both. We're close in a lot of other areas.

TJ3 was 7-1 for the season which is improved. I don't doubt Tylers ability to lead the team. I just wonder if his body can hold up. He's had a lot of injuries in his career.


My point is this:

Let’s say this year we win the West Div for 4th year in a row, win CCG, finish in top 25. Our only losses are @UGA and [pick 1 random CUSA road game]. So we’re 11-2 headed into bowl season. But we do it avg 28.3 ppg and allowing 17.5 ppg. If you’re saying we can’t do that then that’s a subjective argument (but I suggest you check those 2 stats the last few years) especially if the subject is we don’t have the QB or OC to do so. But if you’re saying another conf, say AAC, skips us as a potential add or the college football world yawns because we didn’t beat our opps by an avg 25-30 points per game, that’s just silliness. There are factors that don’t include sports at all when it comes to expansion and we are not only not falling behind our peers, we’re rapidly closing the gap.


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and i will add WE LOST ALL OUR PLAYERS IN 2014 AND HAD TO START FROM SCRATCH. it takes time to build quality depth and we had to start by relying largely on transfers and jucos.
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(01-01-2021 12:16 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  
(12-31-2020 05:05 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  
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(12-31-2020 02:52 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  I am not satisfied with winning this joke of a conference and an even bigger joke of a division. I won't be a happy fan until we are back where we belong, regularly playing schools like Memphis and Houston.

Time is NOT on UAB's side. So many years and so many opportunities have been wasted. We need to make whatever moves necessary, as fast as possible, to position our program for the next opening. We likely don't have 4 more years to close the gap between us and the better AAC teams. They aren't letting us in unless we make the league stronger. Potential isn't gonna cut it when a share of their league media deal runs into the millions a year.

The gap is clearly on offense, particularly at QB. Hope we make some moves to close it.

Position players come and go year to year, season to season. Program funding however needs to be a growing constant for a school to progress into a new conference. It is not by accident that Bama has a consistently strong program with its income of about $150 million annually for it Athletic Department. When a program can spend about $200,000 annually per scholarship athlete, one can more easily provide the desirable amenities to attract and keep the top rated recruits every year. UAB has just begun to move its programs in that direction and has a long way to go to be able to attract the attention of better conferences. The competition for coveted spots is not going to get less intense in the new decade.

Thank you for posting this completely irrelevant information for the 775th time.

It is irrelevant IF one is content with C-USA - or what is left of it after 2030 - when more school's tail lights are visible like those of present AAC members who used to be our fellow members. UAB is not the only school seeking to advance its conference status. Being right for the 775th time is a new record.

It is irrelevant because UAB is not, will not, and cannot be Alabama. You literally choose to talk about the one program most of us despise over and over and over again. We are not Bama. We cannot be Bama. If you want to talk about their spending, go spew it on their boards. I care more about what Memphis and Tulsa and cincinatti to than I ever will what any SEC school does. Unless you can find $200,000 a year per student per year to give off of your teacher’s pension, this whole topic is completely irrelevant to UAB and where we currently are

I see BBF’s point. One method of being successful is learning from those that have been successful. I am not Michael Jordan. I will never be Michael Jordan. However, I can study what he did and use what I can to improve my game. I believe that the message that he is trying to convey is that UAB athletics will need a lot more donors and money to compete with other top programs. As far as I am concerned, the AAC teams that you mentioned are just rungs on the ladder.
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You don’t tell a high school basketball player that since Michael Jordan averaged 30 points a game in the NBA, that’s what they should be doing too. I understand the reach he is making, but I’m tired of reading about Alabama and what they spend per student. This is a UAB message board, and every school in the SEC is light years ahead of where we are.

They have the money to add freaking water fixtures in their facilities and we can’t even get a practice field. We need to be realistic about where we are, and quoting figures of the sec of big ten or any other p5 conference isn’t relevant to us right now.
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Amen 9911.
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(01-01-2021 05:25 AM)blazr Wrote:  
(12-31-2020 10:08 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  UAB QB's since The Return:

2017 16 TD 5 INT
2018 18 TD 16 INT
2019 20 TD 20 INT
2020 14 TD 9 INT*

We need better QB's or better QB coaching or both. We're close in a lot of other areas.

TJ3 was 7-1 for the season which is improved. I don't doubt Tylers ability to lead the team. I just wonder if his body can hold up. He's had a lot of injuries in his career.


My point is this:

Let’s say this year we win the West Div for 4th year in a row, win CCG, finish in top 25. Our only losses are @UGA and [pick 1 random CUSA road game]. So we’re 11-2 headed into bowl season. But we do it avg 28.3 ppg and allowing 17.5 ppg. If you’re saying we can’t do that then that’s a subjective argument (but I suggest you check those 2 stats the last few years) especially if the subject is we don’t have the QB or OC to do so. But if you’re saying another conf, say AAC, skips us as a potential add or the college football world yawns because we didn’t beat our opps by an avg 25-30 points per game, that’s just silliness. There are factors that don’t include sports at all when it comes to expansion and we are not only not falling behind our peers, we’re rapidly closing the gap.


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If we return with the same QB's in the same offense, I don't like our chances for the kind of season you describe. If TJ3 could get 100% healthy and stay that way, then maybe but that is a big IF.

No matter who is playing QB in whatever offense, I hope you are right. We need a huge season with national recognition. We're only going to get that outside of CUSA. This league is the joke of the FBS.
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(01-01-2021 02:31 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  
(01-01-2021 05:25 AM)blazr Wrote:  
(12-31-2020 10:08 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  UAB QB's since The Return:

2017 16 TD 5 INT
2018 18 TD 16 INT
2019 20 TD 20 INT
2020 14 TD 9 INT*

We need better QB's or better QB coaching or both. We're close in a lot of other areas.

TJ3 was 7-1 for the season which is improved. I don't doubt Tylers ability to lead the team. I just wonder if his body can hold up. He's had a lot of injuries in his career.


My point is this:

Let’s say this year we win the West Div for 4th year in a row, win CCG, finish in top 25. Our only losses are @UGA and [pick 1 random CUSA road game]. So we’re 11-2 headed into bowl season. But we do it avg 28.3 ppg and allowing 17.5 ppg. If you’re saying we can’t do that then that’s a subjective argument (but I suggest you check those 2 stats the last few years) especially if the subject is we don’t have the QB or OC to do so. But if you’re saying another conf, say AAC, skips us as a potential add or the college football world yawns because we didn’t beat our opps by an avg 25-30 points per game, that’s just silliness. There are factors that don’t include sports at all when it comes to expansion and we are not only not falling behind our peers, we’re rapidly closing the gap.


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If we return with the same QB's in the same offense, I don't like our chances for the kind of season you describe. If TJ3 could get 100% healthy and stay that way, then maybe but that is a big IF.

No matter who is playing QB in whatever offense, I hope you are right. We need a huge season with national recognition. We're only going to get that outside of CUSA. This league is the joke of the FBS.

you have convinced me. we need to kick TJ3 off the team along with his backups and bring in some JUCO QB's and third stringer transfers that could not get playing time at the "Big Time" schools. Then we fire the OC and bring in an unproven highschool coach. Dude you are a freakin genius!
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the freshman qb will be better this year and if we have some backup qb ,,he will able to run with the ball for some play and it will open the front line
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(01-01-2021 02:40 PM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  you have convinced me. we need to kick TJ3 off the team along with his backups and bring in some JUCO QB's and third stringer transfers that could not get playing time at the "Big Time" schools. Then we fire the OC and bring in an unproven highschool coach. Dude you are a freakin genius!

I'm sure there are juco QB's and 3rd stringers at P5 schools that are better than our QB's. That's not a high bar. TJ3 might start at a few Sun Belt schools but not many. Lucero and Hopkins would probably be better fits for FCS. Hopkins, our 2nd string QB according to some, has a 52% completion rate with 3 TD and 5 INT's.

I'd just like for UAB to be as good at QB as the top half of the Sun Belt. The numbers don't lie and pretty much speak for themselves.

UAB QB's since The Return:

2017 16 TD 5 INT 60.7 completion %
2018 18 TD 16 INT 56.2%
2019 20 TD 20 INT 56.8%
2020 14 TD 9 INT 55.7% - 9 games

The Belt in '20:

Coastal 26 TD 3 INT 68.8% - 12 games
Louisiana 19 TD 7 INT 59.9% - 11 games
App St 20 TD 11 INT 68.9% - 12 games
Ga St 17 TD 10 INT 58.6% - 10 games
Ga So 8 TD 6 INT 60.2% - 13 games
Troy 22 TD 12 INT 65.6% - 11 games
Ark St 37 TD 8 INT 59% - 11 games

I'm not comparing UAB to the SEC or even the AAC. Forget the best of the G5, we're not up to par with the top tier of the Sun Belt at QB.
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(01-01-2021 06:43 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  
(01-01-2021 02:40 PM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  
(01-01-2021 02:31 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  
(01-01-2021 05:25 AM)blazr Wrote:  
(12-31-2020 10:08 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  UAB QB's since The Return:

2017 16 TD 5 INT
2018 18 TD 16 INT
2019 20 TD 20 INT
2020 14 TD 9 INT*

We need better QB's or better QB coaching or both. We're close in a lot of other areas.

TJ3 was 7-1 for the season which is improved. I don't doubt Tylers ability to lead the team. I just wonder if his body can hold up. He's had a lot of injuries in his career.


My point is this:

Let’s say this year we win the West Div for 4th year in a row, win CCG, finish in top 25. Our only losses are @UGA and [pick 1 random CUSA road game]. So we’re 11-2 headed into bowl season. But we do it avg 28.3 ppg and allowing 17.5 ppg. If you’re saying we can’t do that then that’s a subjective argument (but I suggest you check those 2 stats the last few years) especially if the subject is we don’t have the QB or OC to do so. But if you’re saying another conf, say AAC, skips us as a potential add or the college football world yawns because we didn’t beat our opps by an avg 25-30 points per game, that’s just silliness. There are factors that don’t include sports at all when it comes to expansion and we are not only not falling behind our peers, we’re rapidly closing the gap.


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If we return with the same QB's in the same offense, I don't like our chances for the kind of season you describe. If TJ3 could get 100% healthy and stay that way, then maybe but that is a big IF.

No matter who is playing QB in whatever offense, I hope you are right. We need a huge season with national recognition. We're only going to get that outside of CUSA. This league is the joke of the FBS.

you have convinced me. we need to kick TJ3 off the team along with his backups and bring in some JUCO QB's and third stringer transfers that could not get playing time at the "Big Time" schools. Then we fire the OC and bring in an unproven highschool coach. Dude you are a freakin genius!

I'm sure there are juco QB's and 3rd stringers at P5 schools that are better than our QB's. That's not a high bar. TJ3 might start at a few Sun Belt schools but not many. Lucero and Hopkins would probably be better fits for FCS.

I'd just like for UAB to be as good at QB as the top half of the Sun Belt. That's not an unreasonable expectation.

Johnston has two years of eligibility left. He has led us to three straight conference championship games wining two. QB's transfer for playing time not to sit the bench. No good QB is going to transfer to UAB because they want to start not sit the bench. its not that our coaches are not trying to get transfers its that the guys we want look at the situation and decide to go elsewhere in search of playing time.
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(01-01-2021 07:16 PM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  Johnston has two years of eligibility left. He has led us to three straight conference championship games wining two. QB's transfer for playing time not to sit the bench. No good QB is going to transfer to UAB because they want to start not sit the bench. its not that our coaches are not trying to get transfers its that the guys we want look at the situation and decide to go elsewhere in search of playing time.

Given how the last two seasons have gone, how can you build your offense around Johnston? It's tough to build momentum during a season when your experienced starter misses half the games.

Seems like a risky strategy to bank on him again. Third season's the charm?
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My point was not what UAB CAN NOT BE but what it MUST be if it wants a better conference connection in the future. You say UAB should be compared to Cinncy, Tulsa, Memphis and you could have added Louisville, UCF and USF. What do these programs have in common among their conference mates? What are they that UAB CAN NOT BE?

Many cheered when McGee declared UAB could win with current facilities and players. Then he posted a 5-19 record before he left. Did you not learn some of the facts of football program life from that and Clark's first year at 6-6 even with 14 JUCO recruits? Arguing over QBs and OCs is as fruitful as rearranging deck chairs on the TITANIC. The real lesson is one learned from solid successful programs -- even if you despise them. The road forward is paved with MONEY and lots of it over many years. If you want UAB's program to stay the same, just keep doing what we have always done for the same results.To do what you have always done but expect better results is one definition of insanity.
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(01-01-2021 08:46 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  My point was not what UAB CAN NOT BE but what it MUST be if it wants a better conference connection in the future. You say UAB should be compared to Cinncy, Tulsa, Memphis and you could have added Louisville, UCF and USF. What do these programs have in common among their conference mates? What are they that UAB CAN NOT BE?

Many cheered when McGee declared UAB could win with current facilities and players. Then he posted a 5-19 record before he left. Did you not learn some of the facts of football program life from that and Clark's first year at 6-6 even with 14 JUCO recruits? Arguing over QBs and OCs is as fruitful as rearranging deck chairs on the TITANIC. The real lesson is one learned from solid successful programs -- even if you despise them. The road forward is paved with MONEY and lots of it over many years. If you want UAB's program to stay the same, just keep doing what we have always done for the same results.To do what you have always done but expect better results is one definition of insanity.

He, and probably every other poster on here, just want you to stop babbling on about Alabama in every. Single. Post. Over. And. Over. You just say the same things in every post - can’t you see that?
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Schnauzer is the type of fan to typecast people who say ANYTHING negative about the program as a mindless traitor. There were quite a few people like that when we had ehsan and haase. Totally different situation obviously, but similar in that some posters can’t take anyone saying anything bad about the program at all, even if it’s justified. We’ve had penalty, qb, and offensive issues every year under Clark with multiple coaches and players and schemes. You can’t just say, “we won the worst conference in football 2 out of 3 three years, everything’s fine.” There are legit gripes about the team and things that are holding us back.

Any qb with any sort of talent or ego could look at the tape of TJ3’s arm strength and wobbly spirals and think he could take the job away. He’s been good for us but we can’t stay beholden to him out of blind loyalty. If there’s a better transfer out there, go get him and let there be a real competition for the starter job..
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(01-01-2021 10:13 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  
(01-01-2021 08:46 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  My point was not what UAB CAN NOT BE but what it MUST be if it wants a better conference connection in the future. You say UAB should be compared to Cinncy, Tulsa, Memphis and you could have added Louisville, UCF and USF. What do these programs have in common among their conference mates? What are they that UAB CAN NOT BE?

Many cheered when McGee declared UAB could win with current facilities and players. Then he posted a 5-19 record before he left. Did you not learn some of the facts of football program life from that and Clark's first year at 6-6 even with 14 JUCO recruits? Arguing over QBs and OCs is as fruitful as rearranging deck chairs on the TITANIC. The real lesson is one learned from solid successful programs -- even if you despise them. The road forward is paved with MONEY and lots of it over many years. If you want UAB's program to stay the same, just keep doing what we have always done for the same results.To do what you have always done but expect better results is one definition of insanity.

He, and probably every other poster on here, just want you to stop babbling on about Alabama in every. Single. Post. Over. And. Over. You just say the same things in every post - can’t you see that?

Interesting -- The post you answered complaining about me "Babbling about Bama" - was one in which I never mentioned Bama (unless the description of "solid successful program" only applies in your mind to Bama). I have cited facts and numbers about Bama because most regional readers know that school so well. I suppose I could use Harvard, Stanford or Michigan but it might be less enlightening. Besides, I'm not all that familiar with those schools either.
Bama as of tonight, is in the FNC game a week from Monday so its status is well regarded among successful football programs. They must be doing something right that UAB might copy..
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bamablazer ,,,idont mind if you write about bama to use as a reference and you do it a lot but dont be frustrated when people complain about it
best way to deal with it ,,,,dont answer the critique
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It’s not a relevant comparison. Unless somebody here can generate $200,000 per football player per year at UAB, it’s accomplishing nothing other than saying they have money that you don’t. No ****. These schools have multi million dollar tv deals year over year. That’s why the AAC is important to most of us here, they do at least have a reasonable tv deal these days.

We need to do what is best for UAB, and that isn’t the same thing that applies to any p5 school.

If you can’t see that Alabama is paying its head coach more than we pay our entire coaching staff, that’s a good place to start on why we can’t “copy” what they are doing.
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Our program is nowhere close to having the resources that the SEC has available or the fan/donor base. Still it doesn’t mean that there aren’t relevant lessons that we can learn and apply at UAB. I don’t choose to arbitrarily place a ceiling on UAB and sound like Randy Quaid in Major League. We shouldn’t let the P5’s successes or wealth intimidate us to accept our station.
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(01-01-2021 10:13 PM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  
(01-01-2021 08:46 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  My point was not what UAB CAN NOT BE but what it MUST be if it wants a better conference connection in the future. You say UAB should be compared to Cinncy, Tulsa, Memphis and you could have added Louisville, UCF and USF. What do these programs have in common among their conference mates? What are they that UAB CAN NOT BE?

Many cheered when McGee declared UAB could win with current facilities and players. Then he posted a 5-19 record before he left. Did you not learn some of the facts of football program life from that and Clark's first year at 6-6 even with 14 JUCO recruits? Arguing over QBs and OCs is as fruitful as rearranging deck chairs on the TITANIC. The real lesson is one learned from solid successful programs -- even if you despise them. The road forward is paved with MONEY and lots of it over many years. If you want UAB's program to stay the same, just keep doing what we have always done for the same results.To do what you have always done but expect better results is one definition of insanity.

He, and probably every other poster on here, just want you to stop babbling on about Alabama in every. Single. Post. Over. And. Over. You just say the same things in every post - can’t you see that?

BNBF was the first person I ever put on ignore (for the very reason you stated). I suggest more try it
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