From the Denton paper

(12-29-2020 12:54 PM)ColoradoGreen Wrote:  From the Denton paper

I agree. It is on the member institutions.

(12-29-2020 01:26 PM)MAN4UAB Wrote:  

(12-29-2020 12:54 PM)ColoradoGreen Wrote:  From the Denton paper

I agree. It is on the member institutions.

But but but if we blame Judy we don’t have to accept responsibility

Actual headline:

C-USA has work to do after disastrous bowl season

I mean you have to admit we had a pretty good bowl winning streak going, we were due for a bad off year. Just glad this year doesn't count!

This is just one season, and yes it wasn’t good but this league has bigger issues on the whole than just losing bowl games this year. We get very little exposure, some member schools aren’t even close to the main draw in their market. CUSA leadership has to find a way to increase our national exposure and brand. That leads to better recruits and helps each member school at attract more students as well. Jmo

(12-29-2020 05:03 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  This is just one season, and yes it wasn’t good but this league has bigger issues on the whole than just losing bowl games this year. We get very little exposure, some member schools aren’t even close to the main draw in their market. CUSA leadership has to find a way to increase our national exposure and brand. That leads to better recruits and helps each member school at attract more students as well. Jmo

We fans need to make up our minds on what we are willing to do. I seem to recall most Marshall (CUSA) fans saying Saturday was the day they wanted to play 6 home football games on.

So now Marshall fans are welling to give up 2 to 4 home games each year and play those games on a week night? ESPN gets first and only vote on when those games are played.

I could be wrong but I seem to recall Marshall fans being one of the loudest groups against this. Am I mistaken? That is the one and only way to get espn interested enough to spend money. But even then isnt it a little too late. ESPN owns all of the rights to the conferences they sign and have more content than they can show on their networks....

why do you think CBSSN is showing less CUSA games? ESPN can sell them content to fill slots cheaper than they can buy it from CUSA. Lets be honest once more, the difference in ratings from any of us is not that much difference.

Not one CUSA school or SBC school or MAC school has a big enough built in following to draw ratings that would matter. Especially when it comes to CBSSN.

I'm interested in what any fan on this board thinks CUSA has that is worth more than what they are currently getting? The media contract Judy got for CUSA considering the above. Most every game a fan can sit in their home and watch their school play. Each school getting somewhere in the neighborhood of $400,000. Doing that without Fox or ESPN willing to bid for the games...

deserves a lot more credit than fans give. Once more lets be honest, the leadership of CUSA is trying to polish up a pig, more likely pig **** and getting others to pay for it....

when they are already overloaded with pig ****

Definitely get our own houses in order. The Presidents employ Judy. So, in a sense, we can only judge Judy as far as we judge our own school presidents jobs when it comes to how much they care and how they’ve invested school funds to athletics.


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These things are cyclical, too. We’re in a period where no one/two programs are going thru a dominate phase. We seem to look over the fact that Memphis (8-3), UCF (6-4), Houston (3-5), and AppSt (9-3) all had relatively down years and may be looking at good conference teams for a few years vs dominating and grabbing National headlines.


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To add a little more, recruiting at this level is all about spotting under valued talent that works for the system each school runs. Coastal Carolina has another under .500 season without Grayson McCall.

Grayson McCall had the following offers
CC
Army
3 or 4 FCS schools

Zac Thomas anyone thinks Appy St has the record they had over the last few years without this kid
Offers were 3 or 4 SBC schools and 3 or 4 CUSA schools. When he signed with Appy St they had a 6,3,7 and 11 wins. Not one team in the SBC had been ranked

Just two examples of QBs and you can do that with other skill players on G5 teams that are having a good run. Recruiting is about a coach being able to first spot the talent and sell that kid on the system. Its not about espn games on weeknights that are getting 70k to 100k in views.

Its not about system rankings by 247. Its about a coach that can spot talent at the skill positions. Those that do, win. Those that dont, loses. Of course a outstanding coach can sometimes overcome losing. A awful coach will win once every 3 or 4 years even when they spot that talent.

don't care about tejas in any capacity...

LA, MS, AL, GA only...

the rest can KMA with a GL smooch...

(12-29-2020 05:54 PM)blazr Wrote:  These things are cyclical, too. We’re in a period where no one/two programs are going thru a dominate phase. We seem to look over the fact that Memphis (8-3), UCF (6-4), Houston (3-5), and AppSt (9-3) all had relatively down years and may be looking at good conference teams for a few years vs dominating and grabbing National headlines.


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I certainly would like to have one of those 9 - 3 down years.

(12-29-2020 06:21 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  To add a little more, recruiting at this level is all about spotting under valued talent that works for the system each school runs. Coastal Carolina has another under .500 season without Grayson McCall.

Grayson McCall had the following offers
CC
Army
3 or 4 FCS schools

Zac Thomas anyone thinks Appy St has the record they had over the last few years without this kid
Offers were 3 or 4 SBC schools and 3 or 4 CUSA schools. When he signed with Appy St they had a 6,3,7 and 11 wins. Not one team in the SBC had been ranked

Just two examples of QBs and you can do that with other skill players on G5 teams that are having a good run. Recruiting is about a coach being able to first spot the talent and sell that kid on the system. Its not about espn games on weeknights that are getting 70k to 100k in views.

Its not about system rankings by 247. Its about a coach that can spot talent at the skill positions. Those that do, win. Those that dont, loses. Of course a outstanding coach can sometimes overcome losing. A awful coach will win once every 3 or 4 years even when they spot that talent.

Bingo!

And again...it was just one bad year for Conference USA overall and a bad year bowl wise going 0 for 6 (UAB didn't get to play). 2021 is a new year.

Zac Thomas passed for 115 yards and 1 TD in the bowl game. He’s a good QB, but App is way more than one player. App won 30 games the three years prior to Zac starting.

(12-29-2020 10:26 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Zac Thomas passed for 115 yards and 1 TD in the bowl game. He’s a good QB, but App is way more than one player. App won 30 games the three years prior to Zac starting.

Nobody asked. This is concerning CUSA. There is a Sunbelt board.

(12-29-2020 06:39 PM)GEAGLESJAG Wrote:  

(12-29-2020 05:54 PM)blazr Wrote:  These things are cyclical, too. We’re in a period where no one/two programs are going thru a dominate phase. We seem to look over the fact that Memphis (8-3), UCF (6-4), Houston (3-5), and AppSt (9-3) all had relatively down years and may be looking at good conference teams for a few years vs dominating and grabbing National headlines.


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I certainly would like to have one of those 9 - 3 down years.

It’s all relative. You don’t think Alabama would consider a 9-3, no champ, no CFP would consider that a down year? The difference it it takes longer to reload at the G5 level.


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(12-29-2020 11:36 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(12-29-2020 10:26 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Zac Thomas passed for 115 yards and 1 TD in the bowl game. He’s a good QB, but App is way more than one player. App won 30 games the three years prior to Zac starting.

Nobody asked. This is concerning CUSA. There is a Sunbelt board.

Someone posted about App and Zac Thompson.

Sorry for not allowing you to live in an echo chamber of false information.

(12-29-2020 05:32 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(12-29-2020 05:03 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  This is just one season, and yes it wasn’t good but this league has bigger issues on the whole than just losing bowl games this year. We get very little exposure, some member schools aren’t even close to the main draw in their market. CUSA leadership has to find a way to increase our national exposure and brand. That leads to better recruits and helps each member school at attract more students as well. Jmo

We fans need to make up our minds on what we are willing to do. I seem to recall most Marshall (CUSA) fans saying Saturday was the day they wanted to play 6 home football games on.

So now Marshall fans are welling to give up 2 to 4 home games each year and play those games on a week night? ESPN gets first and only vote on when those games are played.

I could be wrong but I seem to recall Marshall fans being one of the loudest groups against this. Am I mistaken? That is the one and only way to get espn interested enough to spend money. But even then isnt it a little too late. ESPN owns all of the rights to the conferences they sign and have more content than they can show on their networks....

why do you think CBSSN is showing less CUSA games? ESPN can sell them content to fill slots cheaper than they can buy it from CUSA. Lets be honest once more, the difference in ratings from any of us is not that much difference.

Not one CUSA school or SBC school or MAC school has a big enough built in following to draw ratings that would matter. Especially when it comes to CBSSN.

I'm interested in what any fan on this board thinks CUSA has that is worth more than what they are currently getting? The media contract Judy got for CUSA considering the above. Most every game a fan can sit in their home and watch their school play. Each school getting somewhere in the neighborhood of $400,000. Doing that without Fox or ESPN willing to bid for the games...

deserves a lot more credit than fans give. Once more lets be honest, the leadership of CUSA is trying to polish up a pig, more likely pig **** and getting others to pay for it....

when they are already overloaded with pig ****

The fans against week day games are going to be the most vocal. I wouldn’t mind playing 2 games or so a season on a Thursday or Friday night. Maybe one away and one at home - IF it’s gets the league better exposure. I don’t want all my November games on Tuesdays and Wednesdays like MACtion but I can see why they do it.

I truly think if our games against EKU and App St weren’t on ESPN and CBS and nationally aired, we probably wouldn’t have been ranked. The exposure alone was invaluable. Of course we crapped the bed big time and didn’t fully take advantage of it. Jmho

(12-29-2020 05:32 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(12-29-2020 05:03 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  This is just one season, and yes it wasn’t good but this league has bigger issues on the whole than just losing bowl games this year. We get very little exposure, some member schools aren’t even close to the main draw in their market. CUSA leadership has to find a way to increase our national exposure and brand. That leads to better recruits and helps each member school at attract more students as well. Jmo

We fans need to make up our minds on what we are willing to do. I seem to recall most Marshall (CUSA) fans saying Saturday was the day they wanted to play 6 home football games on.

So now Marshall fans are welling to give up 2 to 4 home games each year and play those games on a week night? ESPN gets first and only vote on when those games are played.

I could be wrong but I seem to recall Marshall fans being one of the loudest groups against this. Am I mistaken? That is the one and only way to get espn interested enough to spend money. But even then isnt it a little too late. ESPN owns all of the rights to the conferences they sign and have more content than they can show on their networks....

why do you think CBSSN is showing less CUSA games? ESPN can sell them content to fill slots cheaper than they can buy it from CUSA. Lets be honest once more, the difference in ratings from any of us is not that much difference.

Not one CUSA school or SBC school or MAC school has a big enough built in following to draw ratings that would matter. Especially when it comes to CBSSN.

I'm interested in what any fan on this board thinks CUSA has that is worth more than what they are currently getting? The media contract Judy got for CUSA considering the above. Most every game a fan can sit in their home and watch their school play. Each school getting somewhere in the neighborhood of $400,000. Doing that without Fox or ESPN willing to bid for the games...

deserves a lot more credit than fans give. Once more lets be honest, the leadership of CUSA is trying to polish up a pig, more likely pig **** and getting others to pay for it....

when they are already overloaded with pig ****

The fans against week day games are going to be the most vocal. I wouldn’t mind playing 2 games or so a season on a Thursday or Friday night. Maybe one away and one at home - IF it’s gets the league better exposure. I don’t want all my November games on Tuesdays and Wednesdays like MACtion but I can see why they do it.

I truly think if our games against EKU and App St weren’t on ESPN and CBS and nationally aired, we probably wouldn’t have been ranked. The exposure alone was invaluable. Of course we crapped the bed big time and didn’t fully take advantage of it. Jmho