In the new era of grad transfers, and a “win now” mentality, what gets lost is developing a young QB, working through the maturation process and ultimately benefiting in the end. Harnish is the best example. He was 29-18 as a starter, the bulk of his losses coming in the first two years of his career. He ended up being one of the most successful QBs in program history. Lynch was being developed during Harnish’s run, and we know how that ended. The story continued with Hare. An argument can be made that Childers took a similar path. Point being...depending on where your program is at (0-6 would imply that NIU is more than a piece or two away), if there is a young QB in the system, the development approach may have more merit than the grad transfer approach. Starting QB records since Harnish (minimum of 5 starts)
Harnish 29-18 .617
Lynch 24-4 .857
Hare 15-6 .714
Graham 3-7 .300
Maddie 3-2. .600
Santa 4-1 .800
Childers 15-9 .625
Bowers 4-10 .285

(12-31-2020 11:11 AM)Djud Wrote:  In the new era of grad transfers, and a “win now” mentality, what gets lost is developing a young QB, working through the maturation process and ultimately benefiting in the end. Harnish is the best example. He was 29-18 as a starter, the bulk of his losses coming in the first two years of his career. He ended up being one of the most successful QBs in program history. Lynch was being developed during Harnish’s run, and we know how that ended. The story continued with Hare. An argument can be made that Childers took a similar path. Point being...depending on where your program is at (0-6 would imply that NIU is more than a piece or two away), if there is a young QB in the system, the development approach may have more merit than the grad transfer approach. Starting QB records since Harnish (minimum of 5 starts)
Harnish 29-18 .617
Lynch 24-4 .857
Hare 15-6 .714
Graham 3-7 .300
Maddie 3-2. .600
Santa 4-1 .800
Childers 15-9 .625
Bowers 4-10 .285

The problem I see is that coaches develop Fletcher over the next 2 years with playing time, but then he transfers to Michigan State to play with his brother.

(12-31-2020 01:32 PM)THEEniU Wrote:  

(12-31-2020 11:11 AM)Djud Wrote:  In the new era of grad transfers, and a “win now” mentality, what gets lost is developing a young QB, working through the maturation process and ultimately benefiting in the end. Harnish is the best example. He was 29-18 as a starter, the bulk of his losses coming in the first two years of his career. He ended up being one of the most successful QBs in program history. Lynch was being developed during Harnish’s run, and we know how that ended. The story continued with Hare. An argument can be made that Childers took a similar path. Point being...depending on where your program is at (0-6 would imply that NIU is more than a piece or two away), if there is a young QB in the system, the development approach may have more merit than the grad transfer approach. Starting QB records since Harnish (minimum of 5 starts)
Harnish 29-18 .617
Lynch 24-4 .857
Hare 15-6 .714
Graham 3-7 .300
Maddie 3-2. .600
Santa 4-1 .800
Childers 15-9 .625
Bowers 4-10 .285

The problem I see is that coaches develop Fletcher over the next 2 years with playing time, but then he transfers to Michigan State to play with his brother.

I highly doubt that - Michigan State has not done a poor job recruiting QBs, a lightly developed MAC QB probably isn't on their wish list. Maybe his brother transfers here?

(12-31-2020 01:34 PM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(12-31-2020 01:32 PM)THEEniU Wrote:  

(12-31-2020 11:11 AM)Djud Wrote:  In the new era of grad transfers, and a “win now” mentality, what gets lost is developing a young QB, working through the maturation process and ultimately benefiting in the end. Harnish is the best example. He was 29-18 as a starter, the bulk of his losses coming in the first two years of his career. He ended up being one of the most successful QBs in program history. Lynch was being developed during Harnish’s run, and we know how that ended. The story continued with Hare. An argument can be made that Childers took a similar path. Point being...depending on where your program is at (0-6 would imply that NIU is more than a piece or two away), if there is a young QB in the system, the development approach may have more merit than the grad transfer approach. Starting QB records since Harnish (minimum of 5 starts)
Harnish 29-18 .617
Lynch 24-4 .857
Hare 15-6 .714
Graham 3-7 .300
Maddie 3-2. .600
Santa 4-1 .800
Childers 15-9 .625
Bowers 4-10 .285

The problem I see is that coaches develop Fletcher over the next 2 years with playing time, but then he transfers to Michigan State to play with his brother.

I highly doubt that - Michigan State has not done a poor job recruiting QBs, a lightly developed MAC QB probably isn't on their wish list. Maybe his brother transfers here?

His brother is a monster. I don't see that happening. He will be a force on Sundays.

(12-31-2020 02:52 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(12-31-2020 01:34 PM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(12-31-2020 01:32 PM)THEEniU Wrote:  

(12-31-2020 11:11 AM)Djud Wrote:  In the new era of grad transfers, and a “win now” mentality, what gets lost is developing a young QB, working through the maturation process and ultimately benefiting in the end. Harnish is the best example. He was 29-18 as a starter, the bulk of his losses coming in the first two years of his career. He ended up being one of the most successful QBs in program history. Lynch was being developed during Harnish’s run, and we know how that ended. The story continued with Hare. An argument can be made that Childers took a similar path. Point being...depending on where your program is at (0-6 would imply that NIU is more than a piece or two away), if there is a young QB in the system, the development approach may have more merit than the grad transfer approach. Starting QB records since Harnish (minimum of 5 starts)
Harnish 29-18 .617
Lynch 24-4 .857
Hare 15-6 .714
Graham 3-7 .300
Maddie 3-2. .600
Santa 4-1 .800
Childers 15-9 .625
Bowers 4-10 .285

The problem I see is that coaches develop Fletcher over the next 2 years with playing time, but then he transfers to Michigan State to play with his brother.

I highly doubt that - Michigan State has not done a poor job recruiting QBs, a lightly developed MAC QB probably isn't on their wish list. Maybe his brother transfers here?

His brother is a monster. I don't see that happening. He will be a force on Sundays.

Of course...I was kind of joking how they were both crazy ideas.

I honestly think there is going to be more hype around guys transferring that guys actually transferring

Rocky's teammate Tre Von Morgan a 6'6 4 star WR has entered the transfer portal.

(01-03-2021 09:56 PM)NIU05 Wrote:  Rocky's teammate Tre Von Morgan a 6'6 4 star WR has entered the transfer portal.

6’6? Good lord come to NIU

He’s already on Campus! So is Clint!

(01-13-2021 05:28 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  He’s already on Campus! So is Clint!

Did you tell him about the fried potato salad at Fatty's?

(01-13-2021 06:24 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(01-13-2021 05:28 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  He’s already on Campus! So is Clint!

Did you tell him about the fried potato salad at Fatty's?

Fried potato salad??? Sounds like a reason to go back to Dekalb.

(01-13-2021 07:00 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  

(01-13-2021 06:24 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(01-13-2021 05:28 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  He’s already on Campus! So is Clint!

Did you tell him about the fried potato salad at Fatty's?

Fried potato salad??? Sounds like a reason to go back to Dekalb.

The second he finds out about it, he will have convinced half the Spartans offensive line to transfer to NIU.

(12-27-2020 09:49 PM)Schaefer Beer Wrote:  Rocky Lombardi, Anthony Russo, Dantonio, Izzo, they must serve a hellava linguine with red clam sauce in East Lansing.

As an Italian I’m insulted. Nobody eats linguine with red clam sauce!

(01-03-2021 10:41 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  

(01-03-2021 09:56 PM)NIU05 Wrote:  Rocky's teammate Tre Von Morgan a 6'6 4 star WR has entered the transfer portal.

6’6? Good lord come to NIU

Why so he can under used like the genetic freak Dennis Robinson

(01-14-2021 04:18 PM)NIUfrankie Wrote:  

(01-03-2021 10:41 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  

(01-03-2021 09:56 PM)NIU05 Wrote:  Rocky's teammate Tre Von Morgan a 6'6 4 star WR has entered the transfer portal.

6’6? Good lord come to NIU

Why so he can under used like the genetic freak Dennis Robinson

Help if Dennis could catch lol

(01-14-2021 04:44 PM)7 Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 04:18 PM)NIUfrankie Wrote:  

(01-03-2021 10:41 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  

(01-03-2021 09:56 PM)NIU05 Wrote:  Rocky's teammate Tre Von Morgan a 6'6 4 star WR has entered the transfer portal.

6’6? Good lord come to NIU

Why so he can under used like the genetic freak Dennis Robinson

Help if Dennis could catch lol

Dennis looks like he just learned how to play football

(01-14-2021 05:22 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 04:44 PM)7 Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 04:18 PM)NIUfrankie Wrote:  

(01-03-2021 10:41 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  

(01-03-2021 09:56 PM)NIU05 Wrote:  Rocky's teammate Tre Von Morgan a 6'6 4 star WR has entered the transfer portal.

6’6? Good lord come to NIU

Why so he can under used like the genetic freak Dennis Robinson

Help if Dennis could catch lol

Dennis looks like he just learned how to play football

Dennis looks like he is still TRYING to learn football lol

(01-14-2021 07:46 PM)TXHuskieJA26 Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 05:22 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 04:44 PM)7 Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 04:18 PM)NIUfrankie Wrote:  

(01-03-2021 10:41 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  6’6? Good lord come to NIU

Why so he can under used like the genetic freak Dennis Robinson

Help if Dennis could catch lol

Dennis looks like he just learned how to play football

Dennis looks like he is still TRYING to learn football lol

Yep! Worst statement of the year!

(01-15-2021 12:09 PM)chihuskie Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 07:46 PM)TXHuskieJA26 Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 05:22 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 04:44 PM)7 Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 04:18 PM)NIUfrankie Wrote:  Why so he can under used like the genetic freak Dennis Robinson

Help if Dennis could catch lol

Dennis looks like he just learned how to play football

Dennis looks like he is still TRYING to learn football lol

Yep! Worst statement of the year!

Look at what y’all have gone and done:

https://csnbbs.com/thread-914701-post-17...id17223845

(01-15-2021 12:24 PM)NorthCoast Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 12:09 PM)chihuskie Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 07:46 PM)TXHuskieJA26 Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 05:22 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  

(01-14-2021 04:44 PM)7 Wrote:  Help if Dennis could catch lol

Dennis looks like he just learned how to play football

Dennis looks like he is still TRYING to learn football lol

Yep! Worst statement of the year!

Look at what y’all have gone and done:

https://csnbbs.com/thread-914701-post-17...id17223845

I pray Cole Tucker stays. He's still rough but he can be a good player if he learns to control his body a bit better, to make those grabs.

Good luck and all the best to D. Rob. Seems like a good kid. Has the physical attributes, but ..... Maybe a fresh start will work wonders. Wish him the best.