Boise hasn't been in the NY6 since 2014. Don't see that changing if they join the AAC. I'm mixed on adding them but it has to be football only. We don't need that stinking hoops program. Dear Lord.

UCF has done more than Boise. Boise is known most for that one bowl win than anything, They had first mover advantage. UCF has surpassed them and the rest of the AAC isnt far behind

BSU athletics is in turmoil. No AD. No football HC. Financial problems.
Just cut baseball. Their football is in a down trend. A new prez that has never hired a sports person. There will be a fight over their benefits from the MWC if they are still in it during the next negotiations.

I believe they have reached the point that no conference wants any part of them including the MWC. They are badly burnt toast.

Surely some AAC admins object to traveling to Noise for olympics.

It's good the AAC and its members don't have to cope with them.

(12-23-2020 08:50 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(12-23-2020 07:01 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Boise can't even win it's own weak conference half the time. It's only relevant season since the CFP was six years ago. They have huge financial issues, brand new AD brand new Coach.

It's over. They hung themselves and hamstrung the MW to do it. Most high school kids have no idea who Boise is and most of the country won't pay attention to them unless they show up in a NY6 and then people will be like oh yeah Boise. So important their bowl game got cancelled two years ago and they stayed home this year.

Nothing about that says ND anything.

You’re a Tulsa fan. Lmao!!!

Oh a nerve. Would you like more?

At least two AAC teams have been ranked in the CFP in front of Boise for 20+ weeks since 2014, with nearly half the conference finishing ranked at least once and multiple teams finishing ranked multiple times.

You're not even Tulsa, much less ND.

The smart move for Boise is to give up its sweetheart deal to get in the same division as the Cali schools however you have to arrange it. Probably too late but it's your best hope.

If Boise St is looking hard to park their other sports, this probably means they got the green light from Aresco and ESPN. I can't imagine Aresco or ESPN will pass on Boise St.

Plus, if BSU leaves, this will put a huge dent to MW inventory and most likely Fox would renegotiate their contract.

(12-24-2020 12:46 AM)uofmlimbo Wrote:  If Boise St is looking hard to park their other sports, this probably means they got the green light from Aresco and ESPN. I can't imagine Aresco or ESPN will pass on Boise St.

Plus, if BSU leaves, this will put a huge dent to MW inventory and most likely Fox would renegotiate their contract.

I agree and think this is how it plays out.

I forgot this from 2012, but Boise was going to park their Olympics in the WAC. Don't see a reason why they won't try it this time, either.

"Boise State is expected to announce that it will put the rest of its sports in the WAC, according to multiple sources, while San Diego State places its remaining athletic teams in the Big West."
Olympics to WAC

(12-24-2020 01:53 AM)Fishpro10987 Wrote:  

(12-24-2020 12:46 AM)uofmlimbo Wrote:  If Boise St is looking hard to park their other sports, this probably means they got the green light from Aresco and ESPN. I can't imagine Aresco or ESPN will pass on Boise St.

Plus, if BSU leaves, this will put a huge dent to MW inventory and most likely Fox would renegotiate their contract.

I agree and think this is how it plays out.

I forgot this from 2012, but Boise was going to park their Olympics in the WAC. Don't see a reason why they won't try it this time, either.

"Boise State is expected to announce that it will put the rest of its sports in the WAC, according to multiple sources, while San Diego State places its remaining athletic teams in the Big West."
Olympics to WAC

Yup. In 2012, as the WAC was racked by defections, Boise got concerned about the WAC's viability and started working on a Big West membership. If the WAC can complete the big expansion move they are currently involved in (they are looking to add Southern Utah, Lamar, Sam Houston St, Stephen F Austin, and Abilene Christian). If that occurs, the WAC would increase its membership to the point they have real stability for the first time since it lost FBS football. Assuming the expanded membership comes to fruition, I think the WAC could be a perfectly viable olympic sports home for Boise if they are really set on moving football to the AAC.

(12-23-2020 08:50 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(12-23-2020 07:01 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Boise can't even win it's own weak conference half the time. It's only relevant season since the CFP was six years ago. They have huge financial issues, brand new AD brand new Coach.

It's over. They hung themselves and hamstrung the MW to do it. Most high school kids have no idea who Boise is and most of the country won't pay attention to them unless they show up in a NY6 and then people will be like oh yeah Boise. So important their bowl game got cancelled two years ago and they stayed home this year.

Nothing about that says ND anything.

You’re a Tulsa fan. Lmao!!!

Same way we feel.

(12-23-2020 09:04 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(12-23-2020 09:01 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-23-2020 08:50 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(12-23-2020 07:01 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Boise can't even win it's own weak conference half the time. It's only relevant season since the CFP was six years ago. They have huge financial issues, brand new AD brand new Coach.

It's over. They hung themselves and hamstrung the MW to do it. Most high school kids have no idea who Boise is and most of the country won't pay attention to them unless they show up in a NY6 and then people will be like oh yeah Boise. So important their bowl game got cancelled two years ago and they stayed home this year.

Nothing about that says ND anything.

You’re a Tulsa fan. Lmao!!!

And this year Tulsa was in the final CFP ranking after a ccg loss and Boise was nowhere to be found. Tulsa has a chance for a bowl win over an SEC team, and Boise reportedly bailed on playing Army.

He's got a point. You don't.

No he doesn’t. Nobody cares or even knows about Tulsa ... not even those who live in Tulsa.

We don't even know what state Tulsa is in. Nebraska?

(12-24-2020 02:08 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-24-2020 01:53 AM)Fishpro10987 Wrote:  

(12-24-2020 12:46 AM)uofmlimbo Wrote:  If Boise St is looking hard to park their other sports, this probably means they got the green light from Aresco and ESPN. I can't imagine Aresco or ESPN will pass on Boise St.

Plus, if BSU leaves, this will put a huge dent to MW inventory and most likely Fox would renegotiate their contract.

I agree and think this is how it plays out.

I forgot this from 2012, but Boise was going to park their Olympics in the WAC. Don't see a reason why they won't try it this time, either.

"Boise State is expected to announce that it will put the rest of its sports in the WAC, according to multiple sources, while San Diego State places its remaining athletic teams in the Big West."
Olympics to WAC

Yup. In 2012, as the WAC was racked by defections, Boise got concerned about the WAC's viability and started working on a Big West membership. If the WAC can complete the big expansion move they are currently involved in (they are looking to add Southern Utah, Lamar, Sam Houston St, Stephen F Austin, and Abilene Christian). If that occurs, the WAC would increase its membership to the point that have real stability for the first time since it lost FBS football. Assuming the expanded membership comes to fruition, I think the WAC could be a perfectly viable olympic sports home for Boise if they are really set on moving football to the AAC.

.

Which would be a better move for Boise St. - - the WAC, the Big Sky, or some other conference?

- and -

Which of these conferences is most likely to invite Boise St. to join?

(12-23-2020 05:37 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  I wouldn't say all that. The gap between Notre Dame and BYU is 10x of what the gap is between Boise and UCF/Houston

Don't you think that's a rather extreme exaggeration?

For that to be true, if Boise were to beat Houston by 10 points, Notre Dame would have to beat BYU by 100 points!

It's not even clear that Notre Dame would have beaten BYU by 10 points more than Boise would have beaten Houston by in the past few seasons.

(12-23-2020 06:22 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  The huge hangup with Boise is their Olympic sports... Where to place them seems to be Boise challenge and if they’re unsuccessful in finding a suitable location we may not see Boise in the AAC anytime in the near future.

The American could solve this problem by granting Boise a temporary all-sports membership for 1-2 years, which would give Boise enough time to find a reasonable place to park their BB/olympic sports.

(12-24-2020 02:08 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-24-2020 01:53 AM)Fishpro10987 Wrote:  

(12-24-2020 12:46 AM)uofmlimbo Wrote:  If Boise St is looking hard to park their other sports, this probably means they got the green light from Aresco and ESPN. I can't imagine Aresco or ESPN will pass on Boise St.

Plus, if BSU leaves, this will put a huge dent to MW inventory and most likely Fox would renegotiate their contract.

I agree and think this is how it plays out.

I forgot this from 2012, but Boise was going to park their Olympics in the WAC. Don't see a reason why they won't try it this time, either.

"Boise State is expected to announce that it will put the rest of its sports in the WAC, according to multiple sources, while San Diego State places its remaining athletic teams in the Big West."
Olympics to WAC

Yup. In 2012, as the WAC was racked by defections, Boise got concerned about the WAC's viability and started working on a Big West membership. If the WAC can complete the big expansion move they are currently involved in (they are looking to add Southern Utah, Lamar, Sam Houston St, Stephen F Austin, and Abilene Christian). If that occurs, the WAC would increase its membership to the point that have real stability for the first time since it lost FBS football. Assuming the expanded membership comes to fruition, I think the WAC could be a perfectly viable olympic sports home for Boise if they are really set on moving football to the AAC.

If this WAC stuff is true then Air Force can do the same thing (kind of like Army and Navy in the Patriot League). Bring on AF instead. It might lead to an Army invite too. BYU, AF, and Army all FB only would be a great add for the AAC to get to 14 for FB and you could forget Boise all together. All though you could switch Boise FB only with BYU if they still want to be ND Minnie-Me. Boise could slip their other sports into the WAC with AF.

(12-23-2020 05:32 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Interesting article about the Boise situation---but the description of the Boise St football program early in this article essentially personifies the reason I believe we will certainly give the Bronco's UConn's old football slot if they interested. This line pretty much sums up the description.

Most Group of 5 schools — heck, many Power 5 ones as well — spend decades and untold millions looking to establish what Boise did long ago: tradition, culture, identity, brand. It would fair to say Boise State is the Notre Dame of the Group of 5.


https://footballscoop.com/news/bryan-har...from-here/

Was this first paragraph written by DavidSt?

(12-24-2020 07:00 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(12-23-2020 05:32 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Interesting article about the Boise situation---but the description of the Boise St football program early in this article essentially personifies the reason I believe we will certainly give the Bronco's UConn's old football slot if they interested. This line pretty much sums up the description.

Most Group of 5 schools — heck, many Power 5 ones as well — spend decades and untold millions looking to establish what Boise did long ago: tradition, culture, identity, brand. It would fair to say Boise State is the Notre Dame of the Group of 5.


https://footballscoop.com/news/bryan-har...from-here/

Was this first paragraph written by DavidSt?

If there's a ND of the G5, it's BYU, not Boise State.

Why? Because, like ND and unlike BSU, BYU is a FB independent.

(12-24-2020 01:53 AM)Fishpro10987 Wrote:  

(12-24-2020 12:46 AM)uofmlimbo Wrote:  If Boise St is looking hard to park their other sports, this probably means they got the green light from Aresco and ESPN. I can't imagine Aresco or ESPN will pass on Boise St.

Plus, if BSU leaves, this will put a huge dent to MW inventory and most likely Fox would renegotiate their contract.

I agree and think this is how it plays out.

I forgot this from 2012, but Boise was going to park their Olympics in the WAC. Don't see a reason why they won't try it this time, either.

"Boise State is expected to announce that it will put the rest of its sports in the WAC, according to multiple sources, while San Diego State places its remaining athletic teams in the Big West."
Olympics to WAC

If this is true, it would still leave us with unbalanced divisions. So the question is who is going to be the third team.

(12-24-2020 06:08 AM)jedclampett Wrote:  

(12-23-2020 06:22 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  The huge hangup with Boise is their Olympic sports... Where to place them seems to be Boise challenge and if they’re unsuccessful in finding a suitable location we may not see Boise in the AAC anytime in the near future.

The American could solve this problem by granting Boise a temporary all-sports membership for 1-2 years, which would give Boise enough time to find a reasonable place to park their BB/olympic sports.

Per emails... AAC and Boise conversations began early this year (2020) and based on those conversations their goal was to move to the AAC as early as this upcoming season but b/c nothing was ironed out nothing was agreed upon until Boise can find and park their oly sports somewhere.

That said... AAC granting Boise a temporary all-sports membership for 1-2 years may not be on the table.

(12-23-2020 09:04 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(12-23-2020 09:01 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-23-2020 08:50 PM)BSUTOP25 Wrote:  

(12-23-2020 07:01 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Boise can't even win it's own weak conference half the time. It's only relevant season since the CFP was six years ago. They have huge financial issues, brand new AD brand new Coach.

It's over. They hung themselves and hamstrung the MW to do it. Most high school kids have no idea who Boise is and most of the country won't pay attention to them unless they show up in a NY6 and then people will be like oh yeah Boise. So important their bowl game got cancelled two years ago and they stayed home this year.

Nothing about that says ND anything.

You’re a Tulsa fan. Lmao!!!

And this year Tulsa was in the final CFP ranking after a ccg loss and Boise was nowhere to be found. Tulsa has a chance for a bowl win over an SEC team, and Boise reportedly bailed on playing Army.

He's got a point. You don't.

No he doesn’t. Nobody cares or even knows about Tulsa ... not even those who live in Tulsa.

Isn't one of the primary reasons Boise State now wants in AAC is, despite BSU's outstanding football record, the Broncos TV viewership for home games is not that strong? Given your statement, why don't you compare Tulsa home game tv ratings against BSU home game tv ratings? You might be in for a little bit of a surprise.

(12-24-2020 01:53 AM)Fishpro10987 Wrote:  

(12-24-2020 12:46 AM)uofmlimbo Wrote:  If Boise St is looking hard to park their other sports, this probably means they got the green light from Aresco and ESPN. I can't imagine Aresco or ESPN will pass on Boise St.

Plus, if BSU leaves, this will put a huge dent to MW inventory and most likely Fox would renegotiate their contract.

I agree and think this is how it plays out.

I forgot this from 2012, but Boise was going to park their Olympics in the WAC. Don't see a reason why they won't try it this time, either.

"Boise State is expected to announce that it will put the rest of its sports in the WAC, according to multiple sources, while San Diego State places its remaining athletic teams in the Big West."
Olympics to WAC

No it means what Aresco has said multiple times.

1. A football members geographic location is not that important.
2. All sports need to be geographically concentric.
3. We will take a call from anyone who is interested.

Boise knows they are not geographically compatible, in the previous try they found an Olympic home. Boise is trying to find an Olympic sports home so it can call Aresco and say we meet your criteria and are available. That doesn't mean it's a 100%, they are just obtaining the minimum to apply.