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So Auburn is bragging that they got their third best choice after Napier and Venerable shot them down. Now they got their man with a similar overall head coaching record in a weaker conference that doesn't include Alabama, LSU, TAM, Florida, and Georgia after running Malzahn off with a $21 million dollar pay day. By the way his Boise teams are also trending down in wins and prestige too in the MWC.

Boise has shown resiliency, they do seem to have an established "program" that transcends who the coach is. Their record the past 15 seasons is remarkable.

But, only to a point. Even at places like Alabama and Ohio State, coaching obviously matters greatly. Alabama was a 6-6 team for much of the 2000s before Saban arrived.

We'll have to see how this shakes out for Boise. As for Auburn, I agree this is not a good hire. Auburn is a blue-chip job, they should have been in the running to lure Urban out of retirement or Dabo away from Clemson but we all knew that wasn't happening, and they should have automatic pick of any G5 coach, but apparently they didn't.

This definitely has the feel of a "settling for" hire.

(12-23-2020 08:57 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Boise has shown resiliency, they do seem to have an established "program" that transcends who the coach is. Their record the past 15 seasons is remarkable.

But, only to a point. Even at places like Alabama and Ohio State, coaching obviously matters greatly. Alabama was a 6-6 team for much of the 2000s before Saban arrived.

We'll have to see how this shakes out for Boise. As for Auburn, I agree this is not a good hire. Auburn is a blue-chip job, they should have been in the running to lure Urban out of retirement or Dabo away from Clemson but we all knew that wasn't happening, and they should have automatic pick of any G5 coach, but apparently they didn't.

This definitely has the feel of a "settling for" hire.

Thread is dumb, Boise fans on their board are throwing a party and are thrilled Harsin is gone.

(12-23-2020 09:02 AM)Shox Wrote:  

(12-23-2020 08:57 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Boise has shown resiliency, they do seem to have an established "program" that transcends who the coach is. Their record the past 15 seasons is remarkable.

But, only to a point. Even at places like Alabama and Ohio State, coaching obviously matters greatly. Alabama was a 6-6 team for much of the 2000s before Saban arrived.

We'll have to see how this shakes out for Boise. As for Auburn, I agree this is not a good hire. Auburn is a blue-chip job, they should have been in the running to lure Urban out of retirement or Dabo away from Clemson but we all knew that wasn't happening, and they should have automatic pick of any G5 coach, but apparently they didn't.

This definitely has the feel of a "settling for" hire.

Thread is dumb, Boise fans on their board are throwing a party and are thrilled Harsin is gone.

Memphis threw a party when Pastner left........

(12-23-2020 09:02 AM)Shox Wrote:  

(12-23-2020 08:57 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Boise has shown resiliency, they do seem to have an established "program" that transcends who the coach is. Their record the past 15 seasons is remarkable.

But, only to a point. Even at places like Alabama and Ohio State, coaching obviously matters greatly. Alabama was a 6-6 team for much of the 2000s before Saban arrived.

We'll have to see how this shakes out for Boise. As for Auburn, I agree this is not a good hire. Auburn is a blue-chip job, they should have been in the running to lure Urban out of retirement or Dabo away from Clemson but we all knew that wasn't happening, and they should have automatic pick of any G5 coach, but apparently they didn't.

This definitely has the feel of a "settling for" hire.

Thread is dumb, Boise fans on their board are throwing a party and are thrilled Harsin is gone.

Deep-State fans throw parties when coaches with winning records leave because they tend to see the glass as quarter-empty. They focus on what wasn't achieved rather than what was. Harsin has been a good coach for Boise. He's been around long enough that you can't just chalk up those 11-win seasons to what he inherited. It doesn't take a bad coach long to blow an inheritance.

But he's also a disappointing hire for Auburn, IMO.

(12-23-2020 08:31 AM)panite Wrote:  So Auburn is bragging that they got their third best choice after Napier and Venerable shot them down. Now they got their man with a similar overall head coaching record in a weaker conference that doesn't include Alabama, LSU, TAM, Florida, and Georgia after running Malzahn off with a $21 million dollar pay day. By the way his Boise teams are also trending down in wins and prestige too in the MWC.

you really believe that?

(12-23-2020 09:59 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-23-2020 09:02 AM)Shox Wrote:  

(12-23-2020 08:57 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Boise has shown resiliency, they do seem to have an established "program" that transcends who the coach is. Their record the past 15 seasons is remarkable.

But, only to a point. Even at places like Alabama and Ohio State, coaching obviously matters greatly. Alabama was a 6-6 team for much of the 2000s before Saban arrived.

We'll have to see how this shakes out for Boise. As for Auburn, I agree this is not a good hire. Auburn is a blue-chip job, they should have been in the running to lure Urban out of retirement or Dabo away from Clemson but we all knew that wasn't happening, and they should have automatic pick of any G5 coach, but apparently they didn't.

This definitely has the feel of a "settling for" hire.

Thread is dumb, Boise fans on their board are throwing a party and are thrilled Harsin is gone.

Memphis threw a party when Pastner left........

yeah, thats worked out great so far.

(12-23-2020 11:42 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(12-23-2020 09:59 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-23-2020 09:02 AM)Shox Wrote:  

(12-23-2020 08:57 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Boise has shown resiliency, they do seem to have an established "program" that transcends who the coach is. Their record the past 15 seasons is remarkable.

But, only to a point. Even at places like Alabama and Ohio State, coaching obviously matters greatly. Alabama was a 6-6 team for much of the 2000s before Saban arrived.

We'll have to see how this shakes out for Boise. As for Auburn, I agree this is not a good hire. Auburn is a blue-chip job, they should have been in the running to lure Urban out of retirement or Dabo away from Clemson but we all knew that wasn't happening, and they should have automatic pick of any G5 coach, but apparently they didn't.

This definitely has the feel of a "settling for" hire.

Thread is dumb, Boise fans on their board are throwing a party and are thrilled Harsin is gone.

Memphis threw a party when Pastner left........

yeah, thats worked out great so far.

Not working for GT either...

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(12-23-2020 11:42 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(12-23-2020 09:59 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-23-2020 09:02 AM)Shox Wrote:  

(12-23-2020 08:57 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Boise has shown resiliency, they do seem to have an established "program" that transcends who the coach is. Their record the past 15 seasons is remarkable.

But, only to a point. Even at places like Alabama and Ohio State, coaching obviously matters greatly. Alabama was a 6-6 team for much of the 2000s before Saban arrived.

We'll have to see how this shakes out for Boise. As for Auburn, I agree this is not a good hire. Auburn is a blue-chip job, they should have been in the running to lure Urban out of retirement or Dabo away from Clemson but we all knew that wasn't happening, and they should have automatic pick of any G5 coach, but apparently they didn't.

This definitely has the feel of a "settling for" hire.

Thread is dumb, Boise fans on their board are throwing a party and are thrilled Harsin is gone.

Memphis threw a party when Pastner left........

yeah, thats worked out great so far.

I'm just saying.......

Sometimes after long periods of success things become slightly twisted the commitment and ability of the program subtlety changes and the mix isn't quite right for success, or a coach may have just been that good at that time.

As fans we tend to blame the coach, not the school we love. Sometimes we're right, but.........

Harsin was 69-19 at Boise. Disappointed fans are likely disappointed that they were not in a NY6 every year recently. It's so about expectation level. However I don't think that has anything to do with the program's commitment level. And it should have been expected that Harsin would eventually move on to a bigger program

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