(12-22-2020 01:50 PM)usffan Wrote: Though something tells me you've already seen this...
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/west-point-...ulus-exam/
Joking aside, the amount of online cheating has been off the charts since COVID forced so many classes online. It's going to be interesting to see what happens when students suddenly lose the chance to cheat as much as they have been.
USFFan
Oh, I had...if you'll indulge me there's a lot to unpack here.
I no kidding, hit post on my first long-ish reply to the bronie, and it jumped onto my screen; I actually started editing, but decided it was not totally on target and backed out.
Supposedly some Army Old Grads were making noise about it prior to Army Navy, because it reportedly included football and gymnastics team members, and people were saying "coverup" Eh. For a sports-specific board, even if there were some plebe athletes among 'em, it doesn't cross the thresshold for me of win-at-football hurting the institution -- whereas those 2016 stories on Jackson and Bradshaw do.
So then you get to the USMA Honor Code. The story says most of those involved are now in an honor remediation program. This is the part where stuffy old grads start harrumphing and saying "back in MY day..." but there's something to it. I don't have any illusions that our admissions processes at the five academies (I'll throw in USCGA and USMMA, sure), which involve Congressional nominations, somehow successfully find the 4,000 pure of heart young Americans each year. Or that somehow a magical change takes place when they walk in on I-Day. I DO expect a lot more from a senior on the verge of being commissioned than a plebe. On yet another hand, end of second semester is like the old "not really a rookie at this point in the season."
The nature of the cheating comes into account. 73 test-takers having the same wrong answer. A much smaller number who had studied together might make the same mistake. And that is with or without having extensive files of past year tests/problems (not in and of itself, cheating).
You highlighted, I think, the spokes-Colonel's point that "it wouldn't have happened if it wasn't remote." At an Academy, is he saying the institution may be at fault for lack of Honor education, or our inability to get the remote testing right, so we will be more willing to use remediation instead of expulsion? Maybe, there's something to that.
Beyond the Academies, changing from in person to remote and back may indeed lead to problems. I honestly feel for these kids. THere have also been reports of the cheating detection software (counts eye movements and head movements) being just off base.
"May you live in interesting times" is not intended as a blessing.