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(12-23-2020 04:46 PM)tke75hawk Wrote:  Cg you are correct 33 and i go to his show on mondays. I just hope shy does not have any setbacks getting ready to play

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(12-23-2020 05:04 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(12-23-2020 04:52 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
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(12-23-2020 04:46 PM)tke75hawk Wrote:  Cg you are correct 33 and i go to his show on mondays. I just hope shy does not have any setbacks getting ready to play

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I'm good. I appreciate all who protect our country. Just giving you crap.
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(12-23-2020 05:05 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
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(12-23-2020 04:52 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(12-23-2020 04:51 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(12-23-2020 04:46 PM)tke75hawk Wrote:  Cg you are correct 33 and i go to his show on mondays. I just hope shy does not have any setbacks getting ready to play

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Wanna trade salaries?


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I'm good. I appreciate all who protect our country. Just giving you crap.

I know, lol. Don’t worry. I still put in good hours for your taxes. I promise, my friend. I did however, finally rid myself of my NC constituency. I paid taxes to NC for 14 years without living there since leaving. Still love my home state, but they were bleeding me in taxes.


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(12-23-2020 04:05 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(12-23-2020 04:02 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(12-23-2020 03:54 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(12-23-2020 03:34 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(12-23-2020 03:25 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Wouldn't it be the coaches job to make said big man aware of how he could fit? Look, I hope it works out better than Steere did and I hope size doesn't bite us.

FWIW, Linnsen was still on the roster when Steere signed. His scholarship coming open resulted in us going after Pridgen. He's also averaging 6 points and 2 rebounds per game this season. I don't think he'd be doing much better here in our system.
Wrong. Linssen left April 6, Steere was announced April 16. ( I did look that up before i made the comment)

Steere committed on March 30th...

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Yep, you and Bricks are correct. The only thing i could find is when it was formally announced on UNCW sports and that was April 16. (see how easy it is to admit you are wrong?) if you you guys did that about Steere we probably still wouldn't be having this discussion

https://uncwsports.com/news/2020/4/16/me...omers.aspx

Correct me here, if I'm wrong. But Steere was supposed sit out this year when Linssen decided to leave. So how did that run Linssen off?
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(12-23-2020 04:13 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  Siddle announced it in his post-game presser.



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I've enjoyed this dedicated thread tremendously.

For all the judgemental, quit babying this guy, Siddle made a mistake types, take a deep breath. Do you have any idea what a crappy life these guys are living as athletes in the midst of this Covid nonsense?

Life at a university SUCKS right now. The students aren't allowed to do anything. The entire reason college kids go to a campus for college is gone. They can't have visitors in their dorms, can't have friends from other schools come visit, all the entertainment is gone, all the movie theaters are closed, you can't go see live bands, nothing. For the most part, they are living lives of isolation. And, most of their classes are online.

And as bad as it is for students, the lockdowns are even worse for student athletes forced to live in a "bubble". So ease up. Some of them are managing this well and others aren't. Good for the ones who are. But i'm not going to get fired up at some 18-22 year olds who aren't coping well in this mess. I would have failed miserably when I was that age if I were in the midst of this. Hell, I didn't do that well with none of this.

Based on who Siddle inherited, who we were going to have graduate this year, and who he could sign on that might make an immediate impact, Siddle made a choice with Steere he thought would pay off. High risk, high reward. He obviously thought he had a connection with the guy and could help him get turned around. It didn't work. Bill Belicheck created a dynasty making these types of risky moves. It's not the first time a coach has taken a chance like that which didn't pan out, and it won't be the last.

But in the big picture, this is a minor setback when you look at the product Siddle is putting on the floor. I can actually get excited about UNCW basketball again. I can see what looks like...FINALLY... a long term vision for this program that could lead to sustainable success. We may have finally settled on a style of play that is attractive to players and that's proven to be successful. Focusing on one negative, in a sea of positives, is baffling to me.

On December 7th. last year, I almost walked out of a UNCW basketball for the first time in my life when we were down 31-6. I'll manage to live with a risky choice that could have paid off and didn't, over the complete disaster we were stuck in last year.
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^^^ what he said ^^^
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(12-23-2020 08:26 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  ^^^ what he said ^^^

^^What he said about what he said^^

seriously though, (and I realize hindsight is 20-20) what a rotten decision it was- and what damage was done by - passing over Siddle in favor of McGrath.
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That’s rich 82 coming from a guy that criticized every single thing CB did, but now Siddle walks on water? He doesn’t. He’s had a solid start and it’s obviously better than what we had, but this was definitely a mistake no matter which way you slice it. High risk high reward? I challenge you to show me what kind of “reward “ this kid showed at either one of his first two stops.... I’ll wait


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(12-23-2020 08:59 PM)70shawk Wrote:  
(12-23-2020 08:26 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  ^^^ what he said ^^^

^^What he said about what he said^^

seriously though, (and I realize hindsight is 20-20) what a rotten decision it was- and what damage was done by - passing over Siddle in favor of McGrath.


No doubt. Imagine where we could be had we not lost guys and maintained continuity


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(12-23-2020 07:45 PM)82hawk Wrote:  I've enjoyed this dedicated thread tremendously.

For all the judgemental, quit babying this guy, Siddle made a mistake types, take a deep breath. Do you have any idea what a crappy life these guys are living as athletes in the midst of this Covid nonsense?

Life at a university SUCKS right now. The students aren't allowed to do anything. The entire reason college kids go to a campus for college is gone. They can't have visitors in their dorms, can't have friends from other schools come visit, all the entertainment is gone, all the movie theaters are closed, you can't go see live bands, nothing. For the most part, they are living lives of isolation. And, most of their classes are online.

Yes. I know a little something about that life. Not as a student athlete, but as someone who worked full time while a student. There were some things I did and participated in with friends, but much of my student life was spent either in class, in the library or at work. I didn’t have the luxury of BS’ing in dorms, going to parties all the time, never saw a live band, etc. I also paid for my education, and continued to pay loans for almost a decade after graduation. I’m not saying either had it better or worse, but don’t try to sell me on some snake oil BS that these high profile athletes have a rougher life than those actually paying for school. They get catered to more than most students who are all going through the same thing.

Well. This is the last thing I am going to say on it. I have my opinion on it, but I haven’t dwelled on it and I do think it is well fair and a reasonable item to be discussed... especially since it’s fresh Seahawk basketball news. So in that right, I don’t see an issue with it having its own thread. Other similar items concerning player departures over the years had their own threads too. Those were when we had both successful and unsuccessful coaches.

Speaking of successful coaches, it does appear Siddle is on his way to being in that group. I don’t think any of us wish otherwise. It’s great see Seahawk basketball getting back to winning ways. I’m still grateful to Coach Burke last year who had the tough task of quickly getting guys not to lose heart, played out of their minds, kept the grades up, AND was gracious when he learned he didn’t get the job. It felt great to have two good options for HC. So far, it seems we made an excellent hire in Siddle. He’s doing some great things, and like 82 has said numerous times, we are well on our way to having an identity. I am excited to see these guys in conference play, and I’m hoping over the next few years we play a tough non conference slate to open the season. That is another criticism that I and others had even during his mentor’s years as UNCW HC. The cupcakes.

In terms of criticisms, just because we have a successful coach doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be allowed to voice criticisms or jabbed at because we do. I use “we” in the broad sense of any group of UNCW fans. I think a practical approach is vocalizing strong appreciation for success while still being honest enough as alumni and/or fans to be critical of our team, coaches and athletic administration. I see no harm in that, so long as it’s done in a professional way. By professional, I mean respectful, addressing specific sport related concerns and not being personally antagonistic or evil spirited to someone connected to the team or families of those connected to the team.

In that light, due to the “flags” from the former player’s past, some had immediate concern. The concerns were noted as it related to the team. Those concerns came to fruition. It seems that some here are in the camp of Siddle is great and we shouldn’t criticize anything, and if you do you’re just spoiled by success, or ungrateful for having a good coach. In reality, that’s not true. Like me, you can indeed like/love having Siddle as our HC while simultaneously questioning some coaching decisions. Does that mean I think I could do better all around? Of course not. But like all the rest of you, I (and obviously others here) are fans and have opinions too. There’s nothing wrong with any of them.

For instance, we’re all at times critical of various players. We still love them and hope they succeed. It’s the same with the coaches.

So, I’m hoping we can all step back from the jabs at each other and understand that as fans we all have opinions and they’re not always the same. I enjoy all of you, sometimes want to throat punch some of y’all, but also consider all of you my Seahawk family. It’s like what we say in the various services... we can pick on our own all we want but if an outsider comes in and tries it we all sharpen the blades and defend each other with sweat and blood. It’s the same with all of you.

Well. Merry Christmas, and that’s the end of my rant on the matter.

Good luck and blessings to Ian Steere and his family as they figure out what’s next. For the remaining Seahawks... keep kicking ass and taking names!



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(12-23-2020 10:02 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(12-23-2020 07:45 PM)82hawk Wrote:  I've enjoyed this dedicated thread tremendously.

For all the judgemental, quit babying this guy, Siddle made a mistake types, take a deep breath. Do you have any idea what a crappy life these guys are living as athletes in the midst of this Covid nonsense?

Life at a university SUCKS right now. The students aren't allowed to do anything. The entire reason college kids go to a campus for college is gone. They can't have visitors in their dorms, can't have friends from other schools come visit, all the entertainment is gone, all the movie theaters are closed, you can't go see live bands, nothing. For the most part, they are living lives of isolation. And, most of their classes are online.

Yes. I know a little something about that life. Not as a student athlete, but as someone who worked full time while a student. There were some things I did and participated in with friends, but much of my student life was spent either in class, in the library or at work. I didn’t have the luxury of BS’ing in dorms, going to parties all the time, never saw a live band, etc. I also paid for my education, and continued to pay loans for almost a decade after graduation. I’m not saying either had it better or worse, but don’t try to sell me on some snake oil BS that these high profile athletes have a rougher life than those actually paying for school. They get catered to more than most students who are all going through the same thing.

Well. This is the last thing I am going to say on it. I have my opinion on it, but I haven’t dwelled on it and I do think it is well fair and a reasonable item to be discussed... especially since it’s fresh Seahawk basketball news. So in that right, I don’t see an issue with it having its own thread. Other similar items concerning player departures over the years had their own threads too. Those were when we had both successful and unsuccessful coaches.

Speaking of successful coaches, it does appear Siddle is on his way to being in that group. I don’t think any of us wish otherwise. It’s great see Seahawk basketball getting back to winning ways. I’m still grateful to Coach Burke last year who had the tough task of quickly getting guys not to lose heart, played out of their minds, kept the grades up, AND was gracious when he learned he didn’t get the job. It felt great to have two good options for HC. So far, it seems we made an excellent hire in Siddle. He’s doing some great things, and like 82 has said numerous times, we are well on our way to having an identity. I am excited to see these guys in conference play, and I’m hoping over the next few years we play a tough non conference slate to open the season. That is another criticism that I and others had even during his mentor’s years as UNCW HC. The cupcakes.

In terms of criticisms, just because we have a successful coach doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be allowed to voice criticisms or jabbed at because we do. I use “we” in the broad sense of any group of UNCW fans. I think a practical approach is vocalizing strong appreciation for success while still being honest enough as alumni and/or fans to be critical of our team, coaches and athletic administration. I see no harm in that, so long as it’s done in a professional way. By professional, I mean respectful, addressing specific sport related concerns and not being personally antagonistic or evil spirited to someone connected to the team or families of those connected to the team.

In that light, due to the “flags” from the former player’s past, some had immediate concern. The concerns were noted as it related to the team. Those concerns came to fruition. It seems that some here are in the camp of Siddle is great and we shouldn’t criticize anything, and if you do you’re just spoiled by success, or ungrateful for having a good coach. In reality, that’s not true. Like me, you can indeed like/love having Siddle as our HC while simultaneously questioning some coaching decisions. Does that mean I think I could do better all around? Of course not. But like all the rest of you, I (and obviously others here) are fans and have opinions too. There’s nothing wrong with any of them.

For instance, we’re all at times critical of various players. We still love them and hope they succeed. It’s the same with the coaches.

So, I’m hoping we can all step back from the jabs at each other and understand that as fans we all have opinions and they’re not always the same. I enjoy all of you, sometimes want to throat punch some of y’all, but also consider all of you my Seahawk family. It’s like what we say in the various services... we can pick on our own all we want but if an outsider comes in and tries it we all sharpen the blades and defend each other with sweat and blood. It’s the same with all of you.

Well. Merry Christmas, and that’s the end of my rant on the matter.

Good luck and blessings to Ian Steere and his family as they figure out what’s next. For the remaining Seahawks... keep kicking ass and taking names!



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I agree with the last piece. We’re a pretty small group and we all love UNCW. I like most of y’all most of time.

With Steere, there seems to be more to the story than we know. I’m reading between the lines, but the kid is struggling with more than basketball. I’m not sure what is going on, but I’m pulling for him in life. I know we all agree on that.

Regarding Siddle, I’m fine criticizing him when appropriate, but I’m giving him the same benefit I gave CB. The complaints I’ve seen so far are for deep-seated issues that I expect him to address, but I don’t think it’s fair to criticize in year 1 for a problem that was always a 2-3 year fix. Don’t mistake that for naivety though.

Merry Christmas all.
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(12-23-2020 09:07 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  That’s rich 82 coming from a guy that criticized every single thing CB did, but now Siddle walks on water? He doesn’t. He’s had a solid start and it’s obviously better than what we had, but this was definitely a mistake no matter which way you slice it. High risk high reward? I challenge you to show me what kind of “reward “ this kid showed at either one of his first two stops.... I’ll wait


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LOFL. Let's take a trip down memory lane, shall we?

Upon the announcement of hiring McGrath:

82 - McGrath was the #1 player in Kansas when he graduated high school. He walked on, earned a scholarship and has been by the side of Williams ever since. I'm willing to give the longest standing assistant to a hall of fame coach a chance.
No, he wasn't my first choice. Too bad for me I never aspired to be an AD or Chancellor so I had the authority to make those kind of decisions.

Hoops - I don't like it, i don;t like it at all. I don't care where he came from. He was #3 in that group and it wasn't even close.
F.............F>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>F<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<F!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

September 2018 - Topic Hawk Hoops 2018-2019(second year of McGrath)

82 - I like UNCW in the #3 spot. He is going to be in BEAST MODE for his senior year. And, he'll have a lot more help to do it.

Hoops - Middle of the pack, CB has to earn my confidence to think otherwise!

My criticism of McGrath came AFTER his first full season, not after his first nine games. If you look at the start of his second season, I thought he could lead us to a third place finish in the CAA. So, yeah, it was ME that had nothing good to say about McGrath....you're too easy.
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(12-23-2020 08:26 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  ^^^ what he said ^^^

^^What he said about what he said^^

seriously though, (and I realize hindsight is 20-20) what a rotten decision it was- and what damage was done by - passing over Siddle in favor of McGrath.

I give credit to Jimmy for every loss we endured under CB. At least he fixed it. Financially, a buyout before this pandemic wasn’t ideal timing but is paying off already.
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Did Ian at least finish out the semester in good academic standing? That’s big for him and UNCW.
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(12-23-2020 11:40 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(12-23-2020 09:07 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  That’s rich 82 coming from a guy that criticized every single thing CB did, but now Siddle walks on water? He doesn’t. He’s had a solid start and it’s obviously better than what we had, but this was definitely a mistake no matter which way you slice it. High risk high reward? I challenge you to show me what kind of “reward “ this kid showed at either one of his first two stops.... I’ll wait


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LOFL. Let's take a trip down memory lane, shall we?

Upon the announcement of hiring McGrath:

82 - McGrath was the #1 player in Kansas when he graduated high school. He walked on, earned a scholarship and has been by the side of Williams ever since. I'm willing to give the longest standing assistant to a hall of fame coach a chance.
No, he wasn't my first choice. Too bad for me I never aspired to be an AD or Chancellor so I had the authority to make those kind of decisions.

Hoops - I don't like it, i don;t like it at all. I don't care where he came from. He was #3 in that group and it wasn't even close.
F.............F>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>F<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<F!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

September 2018 - Topic Hawk Hoops 2018-2019(second year of McGrath)

82 - I like UNCW in the #3 spot. He is going to be in BEAST MODE for his senior year. And, he'll have a lot more help to do it.

Hoops - Middle of the pack, CB has to earn my confidence to think otherwise!

My criticism of McGrath came AFTER his first full season, not after his first nine games. If you look at the start of his second season, I thought he could lead us to a third place finish in the CAA. So, yeah, it was ME that had nothing good to say about McGrath....you're too easy.


Where did I say I didn’t criticize CB?Point that out for me? I’m consistent, you are anything but.
I’ve said it many times I like Siddle, a lot. He’s doing very good things. It’s ok to like 9 things he’s doing and not like one decision he made. That’s ok. It’s a freaking message board. You don’t have to be all in or all out.


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(12-24-2020 07:51 AM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  Did Ian at least finish out the semester in good academic standing? That’s big for him and UNCW.

I think so. Siddle mentioned earlier that the whole team did very well with their GPA.
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Look, there is no point in beating this dead horse anymore. I wish him well, as Bricks said there may be some underlying issues outside of basketball. Hope he figures it out.

In the future, i only hope that coach doesn't ignore big red flags. He probably will, because we'd hope he won't be in that position again.
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(12-24-2020 08:39 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Look, there is no point in beating this dead horse anymore. I wish him well, as Bricks said there may be some underlying issues outside of basketball. Hope he figures it out.

In the future, i only hope that coach ignores big red flags. He probably will, because we'd hope he won't be in that position again.

I agree with everything you said. Except that there was a concern about the team's GPA. That part is not a dead horse. But don't think that will be an issue.
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(12-24-2020 09:19 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  
(12-24-2020 08:39 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Look, there is no point in beating this dead horse anymore. I wish him well, as Bricks said there may be some underlying issues outside of basketball. Hope he figures it out.

In the future, i only hope that coach ignores big red flags. He probably will, because we'd hope he won't be in that position again.

I agree with everything you said. Except that there was a concern about the team's GPA. That part is not a dead horse. But don't think that will be an issue.
Hopefully not. If he just left, and they have been done with classes for a bit now, hopefully he was ok there. Finger crossed
12-24-2020 09:35 AM
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