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RE: JMU @ VCU
(12-22-2020 12:58 PM)Dukester Wrote:  
(12-22-2020 12:50 PM)Purplehazed Wrote:  Dave Thomas is pointing out that JMU has not played VCU in 8 years. Former conference mate, a VA peer, 130 miles away.

How can this be explained? Are Rams afraid to play JMU like Cignetti claims for the football team?

Go Dukes, show up today!

Here's what I'd guess on why they have not scheduled us. There is no benefit to scheduling us -

We're viewed as the inferior product
- If they win? so what, they were supposed to win
- If they win a close game, we hurt their RPI
- If they lose, it would be a crushing unexpected loss which would effect their potential tournament seeding

What's the benefit to play us ? We travel well, but they sell out all of their games. The only partial benefit to them is we are close so their fans can travel, but they already play a lot of regional teams where their fans can already do that.

Agree with that generally. They do it because they can. They don’t really want to play at JMU more likely than not and I’m sure JMU doesn’t want to be bought either because of the optics.

I think the same logic generally applies to W&M as well. Neither are true historical rivals the way ODU is or Richmond was when we were in the CAA. JMU and VCU didn’t play all that often when we were in different conferences prior to the CAA days either.

More for VCU to lose playing at JMU or W&M. Pretty sure they’d likely be fine with playing the Dukes or Tribe at home but equally as sure those programs on pride alone would refuse such an arrangement. This is obviously a unique situation with COVID-19 that brought this matchup about.

Is it fair and equitable? No way, but D1 sports aren’t anyway. P5 programs do the same thing to VCU all the time. They’d be happy to buy VCU but would they come to the Siegel Center where every person in the building will be amped to knock them off? Precious few programs that have leverage agree to that.

Given that VCU has some inherent perception and recruiting advantages playing in the A-10, they’re going to guard that advantage against in-state teams they have leverage over. Just smart business. VCU does just fine scheduling and doesn’t need these games.

Plus with several teams less than 4-5 hours drive away in conference (Richmond, George Mason, George Washington, Davidson, La Salle and St. Joe’s), there are plenty of driveable games for VCU fans to watch their team anyway. It’s not like ODU who are on an island by themselves and are desperate for in state games because they have to travel all over the country and their fans can rarely if ever see them away from home.
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(12-22-2020 01:14 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  doesn't the A10 impose penalties for poor scheduling?

https://www.vcuramnation.com/forums/thre...ent.11783/

Also this is a thing too, although every team schedules some games they view as lower tier as tune up type games. Would you play those types of games away from home though? Probably not if you can help it. Scheduling is a leverage game and everyone plays it the way they can.

Pretty sure if JMU and W&M would be bought that VCU would more likely than not schedule those games but don’t see how that could happen in reality for understandable reasons.
12-22-2020 01:17 PM
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Good luck Dukes
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Coach By said he will be without 3 guards today and his language indicates he is hoping the team learns, but not hopeful that they will win.
12-22-2020 03:51 PM
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VCU coach and announcers speak of JMU like they didn't know JMU existed before they had to stoop to calling JMU after LSU dropped.
12-22-2020 03:56 PM
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(12-22-2020 03:51 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Coach By said he will be without 3 guards today and his language indicates he is hoping the team learns, but not hopeful that they will win.

Likely Morse, Fredericks, and Harvey.
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VCU coach and announcers speak of JMU like they didn't know JMU existed before they had to stoop to calling JMU after LSU dropped.
12-22-2020 04:13 PM
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(12-22-2020 04:05 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  https://youtu.be/lYh0_A_2xqw

I owe you a beer my friend. The stream I was watching was not great.
04-cheers
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Vado in a walking boot, but Feinstein (I think) said he practiced yesterday.
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Here it comes...a Lewis chuck it with no prior passes
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Dukes need to drive every possession now. Already in the bonus with 12 minutes left. Only kick out 3’s allowed.

The defense sucks. Really, really bad so far.
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Getting destroyed on the boards
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If Byington is the answer, I don't see it yet. A lot of the same run and chuck as prior years.
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JMU is showing we are in a level below VCU right now.
12-22-2020 04:34 PM
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MAKE.YOUR.FREE.THROWS

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6-15 from the charity stripe... That will help those who took the Over
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(12-22-2020 04:33 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  If Byington is the answer, I don't see it yet. A lot of the same run and chuck as prior years.

Guy coaches 6th game with his new team slowed by COVID issues vs a stronger opponent who runs a full press 3/4 court press and gets written off.

This board lol
12-22-2020 04:37 PM
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(12-22-2020 04:33 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  If Byington is the answer, I don't see it yet. A lot of the same run and chuck as prior years.

oh boy, here we go, only took 5 games....


whaaa, we have a new coach, we are 5 games in and we can't beat VCU!!!!
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Is Lou Rowe still the coach at JMU?
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