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RE: Va. Wesleyan @ ODU 12/22 @ 7:00pm
Kalu can't have games like this once conference play begins
12-22-2020 08:44 PM
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RE: Va. Wesleyan @ ODU 12/22 @ 7:00pm
(12-22-2020 08:44 PM)ReeseBecker Wrote:  Kalu can't have games like this once conference play begins

Reality says that he will though.
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RE: Va. Wesleyan @ ODU 12/22 @ 7:00pm
Freshmen Shunu and O'Connell finally in the game with just 53 seconds left. What's wrong with that picture?
12-22-2020 08:48 PM
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RE: Va. Wesleyan @ ODU 12/22 @ 7:00pm
Well, if nothing else, I feel like this years squad could definitely be a final four contender at the D3 level.
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Va. Wesleyan @ ODU 12/22 @ 7:00pm
And immediately fouls twice and turns over the ball.
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RE: Va. Wesleyan @ ODU 12/22 @ 7:00pm
(12-22-2020 08:48 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Freshmen Shunu and O'Connell finally in the game with just 53 seconds left. What's wrong with that picture?

Nothing. They aren't going to get significant time during conference play, so why not use this time to continue to teach the guys who are going to play?
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RE: Va. Wesleyan @ ODU 12/22 @ 7:00pm
Disappointing game. Although Trice could turn into something special.
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RE: Va. Wesleyan @ ODU 12/22 @ 7:00pm
I think about VCU's freshmen vs ours. Was nice watching a game, HS winter sports is shut down in Va.
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RE: Va. Wesleyan @ ODU 12/22 @ 7:00pm
(12-22-2020 08:51 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  
(12-22-2020 08:48 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Freshmen Shunu and O'Connell finally in the game with just 53 seconds left. What's wrong with that picture?

Nothing. They aren't going to get significant time during conference play, so why not use this time to continue to teach the guys who are going to play?

Because it usually comes down to the bench at the end of the season. Injuries, foul trouble, back to back to back games take a toll on the starters.
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RE: Va. Wesleyan @ ODU 12/22 @ 7:00pm
(12-22-2020 08:48 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Freshmen Shunu and O'Connell finally in the game with just 53 seconds left. What's wrong with that picture?

Honestly, I can understand the coach leaving in the starters. These guys need to play. This was a ridiculous non conference schedule. To expect us to be consistently good through this screwed up start to the season. Off for two weeks at a time. Getting tested like every other day. They were without the Pg Curry as well. They need to play. We just played 6 games in 30 some days. We usually play 13 in the non conference. Those guys will get their chances.
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RE: Va. Wesleyan @ ODU 12/22 @ 7:00pm
I understand the logic of running the upperclassmen, but to me this game just makes it clear why JJ has struggled with recruiting. If I were a freshman, as much as I might want to play for ODU, I wouldn’t want to waste a year sitting on the bench when I could play somewhere else. Especially in games like this.
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RE: Va. Wesleyan @ ODU 12/22 @ 7:00pm
(12-22-2020 08:55 PM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  
(12-22-2020 08:51 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  
(12-22-2020 08:48 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Freshmen Shunu and O'Connell finally in the game with just 53 seconds left. What's wrong with that picture?

Nothing. They aren't going to get significant time during conference play, so why not use this time to continue to teach the guys who are going to play?

Because it usually comes down to the bench at the end of the season. Injuries, foul trouble, back to back to back games take a toll on the starters.

I totally disagree. 8 guys in the rotation is plenty.
12-22-2020 09:00 PM
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RE: Va. Wesleyan @ ODU 12/22 @ 7:00pm
(12-22-2020 09:00 PM)monarx Wrote:  I understand the logic of running the upperclassmen, but to me this game just makes it clear why JJ has struggled with recruiting. If I were a freshman, as much as I might want to play for ODU, I wouldn’t want to waste a year sitting on the bench when I could play somewhere else. Especially in games like this.

I disagree. 9 guys are playing regular minutes. Curry was out. And 8 others get regular minutes every game. Almost every team is like this. Those two freshman will still be freshman next year.

Curry
Green
Oliver
Zip
Reece

Strother
Hunter
Trice
Long now that he’s eligible.
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RE: Va. Wesleyan @ ODU 12/22 @ 7:00pm
(12-22-2020 09:00 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  
(12-22-2020 08:55 PM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  
(12-22-2020 08:51 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  
(12-22-2020 08:48 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Freshmen Shunu and O'Connell finally in the game with just 53 seconds left. What's wrong with that picture?

Nothing. They aren't going to get significant time during conference play, so why not use this time to continue to teach the guys who are going to play?

Because it usually comes down to the bench at the end of the season. Injuries, foul trouble, back to back to back games take a toll on the starters.

I totally disagree. 8 guys in the rotation is plenty.

8 would be fine if we had a solid 8. I've seen nothing from Long and Pilavios to convince me they should be in the rotation. If anyone gets injured or foul trouble they are in. I just hope this team and all the players improve.
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RE: Va. Wesleyan @ ODU 12/22 @ 7:00pm
(12-22-2020 09:14 PM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  
(12-22-2020 09:00 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  
(12-22-2020 08:55 PM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  
(12-22-2020 08:51 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  
(12-22-2020 08:48 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Freshmen Shunu and O'Connell finally in the game with just 53 seconds left. What's wrong with that picture?

Nothing. They aren't going to get significant time during conference play, so why not use this time to continue to teach the guys who are going to play?

Because it usually comes down to the bench at the end of the season. Injuries, foul trouble, back to back to back games take a toll on the starters.

I totally disagree. 8 guys in the rotation is plenty.

8 would be fine if we had a solid 8. I've seen nothing from Long and Pilavios to convince me they should be in the rotation. If anyone gets injured or foul trouble they are in. I just hope this team and all the players improve.

Long has 2 points and 4 rebounds in 16 minutes. We gonna go ahead and declare him a bust now? He had some moments last year. Let’s give him a chance. Another 10 days off till the next game... I’m just glad we are playing at all. Schedule is a complete joke but whatever. A little bball is better than nothing. The VCU game pissed me off just like everyone else but what a joke. Two weeks off before the game. They played like 3 games leading up. Whatever. It’s done.

My thoughts thru non conference...
I like Trice a lot. Playing with better tempo. We miss Wade a ton with leadership, ball handling and defense. We don’t shoot the 3 worth a damn. Too many turnovers and mistakes. If our guards can hit a few more jump shots and stop throwing it away we could be slightly dangerous.
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RE: Va. Wesleyan @ ODU 12/22 @ 7:00pm
(12-22-2020 09:00 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  
(12-22-2020 08:55 PM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  
(12-22-2020 08:51 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  
(12-22-2020 08:48 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Freshmen Shunu and O'Connell finally in the game with just 53 seconds left. What's wrong with that picture?

Nothing. They aren't going to get significant time during conference play, so why not use this time to continue to teach the guys who are going to play?

Because it usually comes down to the bench at the end of the season. Injuries, foul trouble, back to back to back games take a toll on the starters.

I totally disagree. 8 guys in the rotation is plenty.

6-7 is enough really.
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RE: Va. Wesleyan @ ODU 12/22 @ 7:00pm
(12-22-2020 09:00 PM)monarx Wrote:  I understand the logic of running the upperclassmen, but to me this game just makes it clear why JJ has struggled with recruiting. If I were a freshman, as much as I might want to play for ODU, I wouldn’t want to waste a year sitting on the bench when I could play somewhere else. Especially in games like this.

Plenty of freshman have played under Jones. Its not like we have freshman that are ready to contribute just rotting on the bench.

Not all player develop at the same pace. Some actually need development, especially in the summer of covid.
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RE: Va. Wesleyan @ ODU 12/22 @ 7:00pm
(12-22-2020 10:20 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(12-22-2020 09:00 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  
(12-22-2020 08:55 PM)Chillie Willie Wrote:  
(12-22-2020 08:51 PM)ODUCoach Wrote:  
(12-22-2020 08:48 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Freshmen Shunu and O'Connell finally in the game with just 53 seconds left. What's wrong with that picture?

Nothing. They aren't going to get significant time during conference play, so why not use this time to continue to teach the guys who are going to play?

Because it usually comes down to the bench at the end of the season. Injuries, foul trouble, back to back to back games take a toll on the starters.

I totally disagree. 8 guys in the rotation is plenty.

6-7 is enough really.

That's a pretty weak statement considering ODU lost 3 starters mid season just last year. The bench had to go way deeper than just players 6 and 7. As Blaine said many times during his tenure at ODU ... if you want to have depth, you have to develop depth.

Other schools that ODU has competed against for years play freshmen against ODU and win their share of the contest, in some cases more than their share. Do they just recruit better freshmen than ODU? Are they coached better? Both?
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RE: Va. Wesleyan @ ODU 12/22 @ 7:00pm
(12-22-2020 10:24 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(12-22-2020 09:00 PM)monarx Wrote:  I understand the logic of running the upperclassmen, but to me this game just makes it clear why JJ has struggled with recruiting. If I were a freshman, as much as I might want to play for ODU, I wouldn’t want to waste a year sitting on the bench when I could play somewhere else. Especially in games like this.

Plenty of freshman have played under Jones. Its not like we have freshman that are ready to contribute just rotting on the bench.

Not all player develop at the same pace. Some actually need development, especially in the summer of covid.

ODU is coming off an awful season where they needed a lot of help in the form of incoming players. If Jeff didn't recruit the right players that can contribute to the team winning considerably more games this season then that's a problem.

He has basically replaced starter 6'-7" Carver from last year's team with reserve 6'-7" Trice and the unused freshman Greek big with the unused freshman Texas big. I have no problems with Trice replacing Carver, but he alone doesn't shore up the needs last year's interior post position had. There's a good reason that both Jeff and Dave have commented already this season about ODU being undersized. One bases comments like that on who is playing, not who is always sitting, or not even on the team at all.
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RE: Va. Wesleyan @ ODU 12/22 @ 7:00pm
I'm happy we won but odu, come on. Play division 1 teams please. Games like this do NOTHING for us. What TCC was not available?
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