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The P5 protects the P5. Had to get a Big12 team towards the top so that's the rationale for OU at #6.
This is all set up to NEVER allow a G5 to break in.
The P5 thinks they are being generous giving the G5 a single NY6 slot.

Yes, we all knew we weren't getting in the Invitational Four. I could've told y'all that to begin the season. What we have to do is go out and win [or play well against] whoever we're matched up in the NY6 to continue the narrative that the CFP is flawed. We added to that narrative from UCF's magical season and there's a growing media attention to it. Again, we can't control all that stuff but we can control how we handle our business on the field.

(12-20-2020 12:43 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Yes, we all knew we weren't getting in the Invitational Four. I could've told y'all that to begin the season. What we have to do is go out and win [or play well against] whoever we're matched up in the NY6 to continue the narrative of the CFP is flawed. We added to that narrative from UCF's magical season and there's a growing media attention to it. Again, we can't control all that suff but we can control how we handle our business on the field.

^This.
UC is playing for RESPECT.

A big issue for me is the fact that Notre Dame and Clemson have played each other twice and BOTH still get in. I realize they aren't playing each other in the semi-final but in theory they could meet for the third time in the same season for the championship. That ladies and gentlemen, is a fukkin' farce. I'll edit by saying this would not have happened if for COVID but still, if there was a year to put someone else in the CFP because of this...

(12-20-2020 09:13 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  How many guys on Northwestern would start for O$U? One? Maybe two?

So basically O$U just won a scrimmage against their second team 22-10.

Is this supposed to be a pro-OSU or negative-OSU in the playoffs point?

(12-20-2020 12:42 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  The P5 protects the P5. Had to get a Big12 team towards the top so that's the rationale for OU at #6.
This is all set up to NEVER allow a G5 to break in.
The P5 thinks they are being generous giving the G5 a single NY6 slot.

I don't have an issue with not being top 4. I probably would have picked the same 4. Where I do have a big problem is how we were treated the last couple weeks relative to B12 teams with serious resume flaws. Does anyone really think we would have lost to Kansas State or Louisiana? Yet these teams pass us up on account of win streaks in their conference and limited non conference data does nothing to validate the strength of B12. ESPN's own predictive analytics thinks we're better than the B12 teams, A&m, and even ND.

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Both Oklahoma and Iowa State had bad losses this year (K-State and the non-"P" Louisiana (not really "bad" but they are non-"P" you know)). UC took care of business all year. Oklahoma and Iowa State didn't. Not right UC is now ranked below Oklahoma. If UC takes care of business next year, we will see what "respect" the committee shows the "G"5.

(12-20-2020 01:01 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 12:42 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  The P5 protects the P5. Had to get a Big12 team towards the top so that's the rationale for OU at #6.
This is all set up to NEVER allow a G5 to break in.
The P5 thinks they are being generous giving the G5 a single NY6 slot.

I don't have an issue with not being top 4. I probably would have picked the same 4. Where I do have a big problem is how we were treated the last couple weeks relative to B12 teams with serious resume flaws. Does anyone really think we would have lost to Kansas State or Louisiana? Yet these teams pass us up on account of win streaks in their conference and limited non conference data does nothing to validate the strength of B12. ESPN's own predictive analytics thinks we're better than the B12 teams, A&m, and even ND.

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Same. No way we get into the top 4 with the schedule we played. But the smoke and mirrors that had OU at no. 10 playing ISU at no. 6 and then vaulting them to 6 while we dropped 2 spots while idle was highway robbery.

Lack of respect is incredible.

Need to come out to this bowl game with a chip on our shoulder.

Need to get that false starting BS cleaned up first.

Here's how I summarize what I've seen and heard.

Clemson was not penalized for losing to Notre Dame with some starters out. However, Notre Dame was rewarded for the win. That means Clemson was able to help get a team into the playoffs that they know they can destroy without hurting themselves.

Oklahoma can lose to whoever they want early in the season as long as they have highly rated recruiting classes, and thus can show they "improved" to their expected level later in the year and still be in the top 6.

Texas A&M can only play two teams with winning records and lose one of them by four touchdowns and still be #5.

Ohio State can have four scrimmages and go 2-0 against real teams and make the playoffs.

Get to the fuggin' bowl bids for cryin' out loud. If I hear the word resilient one more time...

(12-20-2020 01:01 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 09:13 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  How many guys on Northwestern would start for O$U? One? Maybe two?

So basically O$U just won a scrimmage against their second team 22-10.

Is this supposed to be a pro-OSU or negative-OSU in the playoffs point?

I was saying that O$U didn't play anybody to start and didn't really beat them all that badly.

That would make it definitely anti O$U.

Does anyone actually care about Jim Mora's trained eye? I assume not, because he's on TV and not on the field.

Looking forward to seeing which school argues we only won because they did not want to be at that bowl.

(12-20-2020 12:43 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Yes, we all knew we weren't getting in the Invitational Four. I could've told y'all that to begin the season. What we have to do is go out and win [or play well against] whoever we're matched up in the NY6 to continue the narrative that the CFP is flawed. We added to that narrative from UCF's magical season and there's a growing media attention to it. Again, we can't control all that stuff but we can control how we handle our business on the field.

My issue is after the first ranking or two we did have a chance. Then the committee just randomly took it from us for no reason. It’s strange because I don’t get why they didn’t just have us lower to begin with. It was a mistake on their part and it’s why they are getting flack from the media.

The real argument against UC is 7 home games vs 2 road games. Which would matter except UC two road games were difficult games, fans attendance was limited and some teams like Ohio State only played six in total.

There are two narratives that the CFP/Bowl Selection Cabal can set up...

1) UC plays the 4th place team in a conference in order to delegitimize them with a loss, and minimize them with a win.

2) UC plays the conference champions from the clear #5 autonomy conference, and with a win could further bolster their claim to a "Power" moniker.

One guess which one they pick.

(12-20-2020 02:15 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  There are two narratives that the CFP/Bowl Selection Cabal can set up...

1) UC plays the 4th place team in a conference in order to delegitimize them with a loss, and minimize them with a win.

2) UC plays the conference champions from the clear #5 autonomy conference, and with a win could further bolster their claim to a "Power" moniker.

One guess which one they pick.

Yup. No way we’re getting anyone but Georgia. Who is back to full strength now. It will set up nicely to mimic the Florida beat down in the Sugar Bowl.

(12-20-2020 02:17 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 02:15 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  There are two narratives that the CFP/Bowl Selection Cabal can set up...

1) UC plays the 4th place team in a conference in order to delegitimize them with a loss, and minimize them with a win.

2) UC plays the conference champions from the clear #5 autonomy conference, and with a win could further bolster their claim to a "Power" moniker.

One guess which one they pick.

Yup. No way we’re getting anyone but Georgia. Who is back to full strength now. It will set up nicely to mimic the Florida beat down in the Sugar Bowl.

2020 Georgia isn't nearly as good as 2009 Florida though. And 2020 Cincinnati plays much better defense than 2009 Cincinnati. If we get Georgia, I expect a tight game.

(12-20-2020 02:26 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 02:17 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 02:15 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  There are two narratives that the CFP/Bowl Selection Cabal can set up...

1) UC plays the 4th place team in a conference in order to delegitimize them with a loss, and minimize them with a win.

2) UC plays the conference champions from the clear #5 autonomy conference, and with a win could further bolster their claim to a "Power" moniker.

One guess which one they pick.

Yup. No way we’re getting anyone but Georgia. Who is back to full strength now. It will set up nicely to mimic the Florida beat down in the Sugar Bowl.

2020 Georgia isn't nearly as good as 2009 Florida though. And 2020 Cincinnati plays much better defense than 2009 Cincinnati. If we get Georgia, I expect a tight game.

Hope you’re right. Guess we’ll see if any Bulldogs opt out. It would be the scalp this program so desperately needs.

(12-20-2020 02:30 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 02:26 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 02:17 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 02:15 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  There are two narratives that the CFP/Bowl Selection Cabal can set up...

1) UC plays the 4th place team in a conference in order to delegitimize them with a loss, and minimize them with a win.

2) UC plays the conference champions from the clear #5 autonomy conference, and with a win could further bolster their claim to a "Power" moniker.

One guess which one they pick.

Yup. No way we’re getting anyone but Georgia. Who is back to full strength now. It will set up nicely to mimic the Florida beat down in the Sugar Bowl.

2020 Georgia isn't nearly as good as 2009 Florida though. And 2020 Cincinnati plays much better defense than 2009 Cincinnati. If we get Georgia, I expect a tight game.

Hope you’re right. Guess we’ll see if any Bulldogs opt out. It would be the scalp this program so desperately needs.

forgot to add that it would also be a virtual home game for the 4th place SEC team perfect...