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RE: What's it gonna take to get the CUSACG on linear ESPN on a Fri/Sat going forward?
(12-19-2020 10:45 PM)Ourland Wrote:  CUSA is awful. We typically don't even have a ranked team. It's no wonder no one wants to pay to show our championship game.

but but but we have southern miss and they beat a 7-5 Alabama team in 1990
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(12-19-2020 12:58 PM)TTT Wrote:  
(12-19-2020 11:32 AM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  
(12-19-2020 11:02 AM)TTT Wrote:  
(12-19-2020 04:32 AM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  if we want to play games on Tuesday and Wednesday instead of Saturday ESPN will be glad to broadcast CUSA games. id rather be able to go to games in person

Umm...conference championship games aren't played on Tuesdays or Wednesdays...

to get on espn for the championship they are going to want the regular season as well which means bye bye saturday hello tuesday

That's simply not true. Before the SBCG was cancelled, it was scheduled for today on ESPN at 3:30pm. Do you know how many Tues/Wed games the SB had this year? One.

We just need a better conference leadership. We should be trying to get our CG on any ESPN linear channel on those prime championship days, even if it's ESPN2 or U.
The SBC had at least one if not more Wednesday games postponed.
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(12-19-2020 06:34 PM)TTT Wrote:  
(12-19-2020 02:55 PM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  
(12-19-2020 12:58 PM)TTT Wrote:  
(12-19-2020 11:32 AM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  
(12-19-2020 11:02 AM)TTT Wrote:  Umm...conference championship games aren't played on Tuesdays or Wednesdays...

to get on espn for the championship they are going to want the regular season as well which means bye bye saturday hello tuesday

That's simply not true. Before the SBCG was cancelled, it was scheduled for today on ESPN at 3:30pm. Do you know how many Tues/Wed games the SB had this year? One.

We just need a better conference leadership. We should be trying to get our CG on any ESPN linear channel on those prime championship days, even if it's ESPN2 or U.

you cant judge by this year with all the covid cancellations creating Saturday openings. mid week sunbelt and mac games are a staple of ESPN college football and CUSA is at that level. take a look at the last few seasons. dont act like you never heard of Maction.

You really have no idea what you're talking about do you? First off, no one mentioned the MAC.

Here's the # of Tues/Wed night games the SBC played in 2019: 2. Yep a whopping two games.

And guess when the 2019 SBC Championship Game was play on and what Network? Saturday 12/7/19 on ESPN.

Over the past 2 years the SBC has had a total of THREE games played on Tues/Wed nights. And both this year and last year's SBC Championship games were scheduled on Championship Saturdays on linear ESPN.

Ya got any more bogus claims? Or do you just want to agree with everyone that CUSA leadership needs to start doing everything it can to get our CG on linear ESPN...and understand that we don't have to "play games on Tuesday and Wednesday instead of Saturday" for that to happen?

You are totally wrong at least about week night games for the SBC. They played a lot of games during the week than you think.

As for the CUSA championship game it was played on a Friday THIS YEAR because the conference extended make up games because of Covid. Maybe CBSSN had other programming set that they couldnt change and worked with CUSA to move the championship game a week later or I believe 2 weeks than its usually played.

The championship game has been played on a Saturday every year since Western joined but this one. If espn want CUSA championship game or week night games they would have bid for them. The conference can't force espn to pay for content. Content that they obviously have no interest in spending enough money on to get those games. Of course CUSA could just give espn first rights and the championship game. I'm sure USM and the rest of CUSA has no need for the $400,000 each school gets from Stadium and CBSSN. ESPN owned the CUSA championship game up till 2018

As for getting the championship game on espnu, do you know the ratings for that channel is 40k to 120k for most football games. CUSA 2017 championship game was shown on espn2 255K viewers Dec. 2, Noon


A quick check from Week six, seven and eight, last year
10/9, 8:00p APP ST-LA (Wed)
10/10, 9:15p ULM-TEX ST (Thur)
10/3, 7:30p GA SO-SO ALA (Thur)
10/17, 7:00p LA-ARK ST (Thur)
10/16, 8:00p SO ALA-TROY (Wed)
10/31, 8:00p GA SO-APP ST (Thur)
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(12-19-2020 05:57 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  
(12-19-2020 05:26 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  What programs did the Belt "drop" w/o showing a commitment? I do not recall any. Honest question.
Idaho and NMSU are the only teams dropped by SBC in recent years. Geography was the driving force in that decision.

Trivia: Georgia State was a founding member of SBC in 1976. They were voted off the island ~1981 because they played in a small campus gym instead of the Omni, which was Atlanta’s NBA arena of that era. SBC policy was to play in the largest venue available for each city.

Yes, I was referring to Idaho and New Mexico State. Both were usually drags on conference football RPI.
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(12-19-2020 10:45 PM)Ourland Wrote:  CUSA is awful. We typically don't even have a ranked team. It's no wonder no one wants to pay to show our championship game.

Marshall and WKU at least have been. Anybody else I'm forgetting?
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(12-19-2020 05:57 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  
(12-19-2020 05:26 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  What programs did the Belt "drop" w/o showing a commitment? I do not recall any. Honest question.
Idaho and NMSU are the only teams dropped by SBC in recent years. Geography was the driving force in that decision.

Trivia: Georgia State was a founding member of SBC in 1976. They were voted off the island ~1981 because they played in a small campus gym instead of the Omni, which was Atlanta’s NBA arena of that era. SBC policy was to play in the largest venue available for each city.

I can't find proof of this anywhere but I could have sworn they were on a 2-year conditional football-only temp membership basis.

And that it could be renewed but the Sun Belt chose not to renew, rather than actually "kick them out" outright.

But like I said, I can't find anything to corroborate that so I guess I imagined it.
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(12-19-2020 11:34 AM)ESE84 Wrote:  We need 14 athletic directors/presidents to step up, state this goal, and make it happen through commitment by the schools to improve the product and commitment by the C-USA offices to negotiate this platform. Even two or three ADs leading the charge could make a difference.

The Sunbelt has used a powerful tool to improve - it dropped programs without this commitment. I would be in favor of setting minimum benchmarks for our programs, a 5-year deadline to reach them, and visible and consistent reporting of the progress school by school.


Agreed.
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(12-20-2020 04:32 PM)BKTopper Wrote:  
(12-19-2020 05:57 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  Idaho and NMSU are the only teams dropped by SBC in recent years. Geography was the driving force in that decision.
I can't find proof of this anywhere but I could have sworn they were on a 2-year conditional football-only temp membership basis.

And that it could be renewed but the Sun Belt chose not to renew, rather than actually "kick them out" outright.

But like I said, I can't find anything to corroborate that so I guess I imagined it.
No, you got it right, except I think it was a 4-year testing period, not 2 years. I used the word “dropped” because it wasn’t Idaho/NMSU’s decision. But I agree that could be interpreted more than one way.
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(12-20-2020 02:53 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(12-19-2020 06:34 PM)TTT Wrote:  
(12-19-2020 02:55 PM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  
(12-19-2020 12:58 PM)TTT Wrote:  
(12-19-2020 11:32 AM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  to get on espn for the championship they are going to want the regular season as well which means bye bye saturday hello tuesday

That's simply not true. Before the SBCG was cancelled, it was scheduled for today on ESPN at 3:30pm. Do you know how many Tues/Wed games the SB had this year? One.

We just need a better conference leadership. We should be trying to get our CG on any ESPN linear channel on those prime championship days, even if it's ESPN2 or U.

you cant judge by this year with all the covid cancellations creating Saturday openings. mid week sunbelt and mac games are a staple of ESPN college football and CUSA is at that level. take a look at the last few seasons. dont act like you never heard of Maction.

You really have no idea what you're talking about do you? First off, no one mentioned the MAC.

Here's the # of Tues/Wed night games the SBC played in 2019: 2. Yep a whopping two games.

And guess when the 2019 SBC Championship Game was play on and what Network? Saturday 12/7/19 on ESPN.

Over the past 2 years the SBC has had a total of THREE games played on Tues/Wed nights. And both this year and last year's SBC Championship games were scheduled on Championship Saturdays on linear ESPN.

Ya got any more bogus claims? Or do you just want to agree with everyone that CUSA leadership needs to start doing everything it can to get our CG on linear ESPN...and understand that we don't have to "play games on Tuesday and Wednesday instead of Saturday" for that to happen?

You are totally wrong at least about week night games for the SBC. They played a lot of games during the week than you think.

As for the CUSA championship game it was played on a Friday THIS YEAR because the conference extended make up games because of Covid. Maybe CBSSN had other programming set that they couldnt change and worked with CUSA to move the championship game a week later or I believe 2 weeks than its usually played.

The championship game has been played on a Saturday every year since Western joined but this one. If espn want CUSA championship game or week night games they would have bid for them. The conference can't force espn to pay for content. Content that they obviously have no interest in spending enough money on to get those games. Of course CUSA could just give espn first rights and the championship game. I'm sure USM and the rest of CUSA has no need for the $400,000 each school gets from Stadium and CBSSN. ESPN owned the CUSA championship game up till 2018

As for getting the championship game on espnu, do you know the ratings for that channel is 40k to 120k for most football games. CUSA 2017 championship game was shown on espn2 255K viewers Dec. 2, Noon


A quick check from Week six, seven and eight, last year
10/9, 8:00p APP ST-LA (Wed)
10/10, 9:15p ULM-TEX ST (Thur)
10/3, 7:30p GA SO-SO ALA (Thur)
10/17, 7:00p LA-ARK ST (Thur)
10/16, 8:00p SO ALA-TROY (Wed)
10/31, 8:00p GA SO-APP ST (Thur)

yeah the Wed games suck. Thursday is OK since its kind of a traditional CFB night. Add in that they will put the biggest games mid-week the crowds tend to be lackluster, and it can get lame. 2020 was the first year since joining the SBC that we played our biggest rival on Saturday, which should get 30k+ in a non-pandemic.

But the flip side is that 2020 was a great year for the SBC brand. 3 teams ranked in the top 25 during the course of the year, a 1MM+ viewed conference game(App-UL, and App was on ESPN1/2/U 7 times. Honest question, did 1 MM view all CUSA conference games combined this year?

I'm happy with the relationship the conference made with ESPN and it definitely paid dividends this year. I'm not convinced that this will mean more visibility to the conference going forward, but maybe we'll be surprised.
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Having one Wednesday home game isn't that bad. I can't make every single home game so having one on ESPN midweek after work is a nice little event in my household. Honestly the only complaint I have about SBC scheduling is the GS game being Thursdays. Having 15 games on ESPN/2/U the last two years has happened in conjunction with having the best recruiting classes in school history. It has helped.

The SBC championship game has been on ESPN on Championship Saturday at Noon in 2018 and 2019 and this years was supposed to be at 3:30.

It's worth the once a season Wednesday night game.
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(12-19-2020 05:57 PM)Cardiff Wrote:  Idaho and NMSU are the only teams dropped by SBC in recent years. Geography was the driving force in that decision.

That was just a small part of it.

Idaho and NMSU were originally brought in to help stabilize the conference after realignment.

Because both of those schools were in dire straights after the WAC folded, and the SBC needed stability, it was a good fit... so both the SBC and Idaho/NMSU agreed to a temporary deal. The SBC was also waiting to hear if the legislation would pass to allow a 10-team conference to have a CCG.

The deal was a 4-year football-only membership for Idaho and NMSU, with the possibility to have their membership extended IF they improved their football performance, and maintained it.

At the end of the 4-year agreement, both schools pitched hard arguments to stay in the SBC.

Idaho had a bad presentation with very little to show they deserved to stay.

NMSU was being strongly considered. NMSU raised their football budget and were in the top 3 in the SBC in that category. They also offered to broadcast high-def games on AggieVision, offered to pay $4.4-million to the SBC to alleviate travel costs, and even offered to move all sports over to the SBC... including their basketball program.

It wasn't enough to keep NMSU though. I firmly believe that had NMSU turned their football around quicker, made new hires, and maintained some success, they'd still be in the Sun Belt.
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(12-20-2020 02:53 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(12-19-2020 06:34 PM)TTT Wrote:  
(12-19-2020 02:55 PM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  
(12-19-2020 12:58 PM)TTT Wrote:  
(12-19-2020 11:32 AM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  to get on espn for the championship they are going to want the regular season as well which means bye bye saturday hello tuesday

That's simply not true. Before the SBCG was cancelled, it was scheduled for today on ESPN at 3:30pm. Do you know how many Tues/Wed games the SB had this year? One.

We just need a better conference leadership. We should be trying to get our CG on any ESPN linear channel on those prime championship days, even if it's ESPN2 or U.

you cant judge by this year with all the covid cancellations creating Saturday openings. mid week sunbelt and mac games are a staple of ESPN college football and CUSA is at that level. take a look at the last few seasons. dont act like you never heard of Maction.

You really have no idea what you're talking about do you? First off, no one mentioned the MAC.

Here's the # of Tues/Wed night games the SBC played in 2019: 2. Yep a whopping two games.

And guess when the 2019 SBC Championship Game was play on and what Network? Saturday 12/7/19 on ESPN.

Over the past 2 years the SBC has had a total of THREE games played on Tues/Wed nights. And both this year and last year's SBC Championship games were scheduled on Championship Saturdays on linear ESPN.

Ya got any more bogus claims? Or do you just want to agree with everyone that CUSA leadership needs to start doing everything it can to get our CG on linear ESPN...and understand that we don't have to "play games on Tuesday and Wednesday instead of Saturday" for that to happen?

You are totally wrong at least about week night games for the SBC. They played a lot of games during the week than you think.

As for the CUSA championship game it was played on a Friday THIS YEAR because the conference extended make up games because of Covid. Maybe CBSSN had other programming set that they couldnt change and worked with CUSA to move the championship game a week later or I believe 2 weeks than its usually played.

The championship game has been played on a Saturday every year since Western joined but this one. If espn want CUSA championship game or week night games they would have bid for them. The conference can't force espn to pay for content. Content that they obviously have no interest in spending enough money on to get those games. Of course CUSA could just give espn first rights and the championship game. I'm sure USM and the rest of CUSA has no need for the $400,000 each school gets from Stadium and CBSSN. ESPN owned the CUSA championship game up till 2018

As for getting the championship game on espnu, do you know the ratings for that channel is 40k to 120k for most football games. CUSA 2017 championship game was shown on espn2 255K viewers Dec. 2, Noon


A quick check from Week six, seven and eight, last year
10/9, 8:00p APP ST-LA (Wed)
10/10, 9:15p ULM-TEX ST (Thur)
10/3, 7:30p GA SO-SO ALA (Thur)
10/17, 7:00p LA-ARK ST (Thur)
10/16, 8:00p SO ALA-TROY (Wed)
10/31, 8:00p GA SO-APP ST (Thur)

False. Read again - UAB Schnauzer said "if we want to play games on TUESDAY and WEDNESDAY...". Which is where this whole debate started from. We're not talking Thursday/Friday. Thursday and Friday are better than a Tues/Wed because Thursdays are historically traditional CFB nights and Fridays are the start of the weekend so fans are more inclined to travel to games with it being closer to the weekend. I think we all understand that CUSA has tied the MAC as being the WORST FBS conference so maybe we don't deserve to have our CG televised on linear ESPN channels...but we need to AIM for having our CG on an ESPN linear channel EVEN it's ESPNU. What is the SBC doing differently in their TV negotiations? You can say, well...they deserve it because they've become a better conference, but these were negotiated years ago.

Again, unless ESPN is wrong, this is every Tues/Wed night SBC game these past 2 years:

Wed 10/9/19 - App State @ ULL
Wed 10/16/19 - USA @ Troy
Wed 10/14/20 - CCU @ ULL

I know CUSA can't force ESPN to bid higher for our CG...but I think we need better leadership that can sell CUSA on a tv-executive level. We've got to aim higher. Of ALL FBS conference championship games...CUSA's is the worst. That's all I'm saying.

(12-21-2020 09:14 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Having one Wednesday home game isn't that bad. I can't make every single home game so having one on ESPN midweek after work is a nice little event in my household. Honestly the only complaint I have about SBC scheduling is the GS game being Thursdays. Having 15 games on ESPN/2/U the last two years has happened in conjunction with having the best recruiting classes in school history. It has helped.

The SBC championship game has been on ESPN on Championship Saturday at Noon in 2018 and 2019 and this years was supposed to be at 3:30.

It's worth the once a season Wednesday night game.

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This article is a few years old but this is interesting:

CUSA v Sun Belt TV deals
Quote:Conference USA has announced a new television agreement a few weeks after the Sun Belt announced a new deal as well.

How do the deals stack up? That's not easy to answer because there are still a number of remaining unknowns. For example the release from CUSA says nothing about BeIN. That contract is set to expire after the upcoming season. The language of the CUSA release implies but is not definitive that BeIN will not be renewed.

Let's breakdown football. Assuming each school plays two non-conference home games, the television rights cover 85 Conference USA games and 61 Sun Belt games. The Sun Belt television contract cover four fewer football schools.

WHAT WE KNOW

LINEAR NETWORK TV

Traditional telecasts where you tune to an established channel is better known under the deals.

Conference USA will apparently have 10 games telecast in a traditional manner. Their release says nine regular season games plus the conference championship on CBS Sports Network. That leaves CUSA with 75 games to place elsewhere.


Sun Belt will have 10 games as well. The release says 10 games including the conference championship. The Sun Belt games will be on some undetermined mix of ABC, ESPN, ESPN2, and ESPNU. Sun Belt is left with 51 games to place elsewhere.

Verdict: CBSSN reaches roughly the same number of homes as ESPNU. The Sun Belt is on the ESPN family of networks. If you are a dish network subscriber all 10 Sun Belt linear telecasts are available in 120 channel package costing $59.99. The CUSA linear package requires the $79.99 package. With DirecTV all Sun Belt linear TV requires a package being offered for $50 and for CUSA it requires a package offered at $60. Sun Belt has the better package for linear TV.

MIXED DISTRIBUTION

Conference USA will have 15 telecasts on Stadium. Depending on the market Stadium can be found with an antenna or on some cable systems. None of those stations are in NE Arkansas or Central Arkansas. The nearest are 36.4 in Memphis and 16.1 in NW Arkansas.

Stadium also offers games via online streaming, both a standalone and as a channel available on the Pluto TV app. Some Stadium content will be streamed via Facebook.

The CUSA release indicates that seven of 15 Stadium broadcasts will be exclusive to Facebook. Apparently viewers will need to use Facebook for those seven and the other streaming methods for the remaining 8, if exclusive is to be given its normal meaning.


The mixed distribution of 15 games leaves CUSA with 60 games to place.

Verdict: CUSA wins out here. That's 15 games available online(ish) and maybe over the air dependent on the market. Sun Belt has nothing similar.

STREAMING ONLY

ESPN3 is either going away or being diminished as ESPN prepares to roll out streaming service ESPN+ or ESPN Plus.

The cost of ESPN+ is known, it will be $4.99 per month. Schools will be expected to produce content to ESPN standards. Currently several Sun Belt members already do production at this level for ESPN3. For those schools (AState is one) the production cost change should be nominal. For schools not making that investment, it will be a new expense.

Just as all Sun Belt games not selected for linear TV once went to ESPN3, it now appears that content is headed to ESPN+. That will be 51 games.

For CUSA it appears unselected games will remain on CUSA TV an online pay product offered by the conference with production values of varying quality. After BeIN expires it appears that will be 60 games.

ESPN+ costs $4.99 per month and will include non-Sun Belt content including all out-of-market MLS and as well as local rights for LAFC and Chicago Fire. Releases mention NHL and MLB content but no details have been released as to the nature of that content.

CUSA-TV is $10.99 per month.

Verdict: Sun Belt is being held to a known higher standard and for $6 per month less the subscription includes more than Sun Belt content.


PAYOUT

CUSA sources have been quoted as saying the distributions from CBSSN and Stadium do not include payments for production which will be handled by those networks, however CUSA schools will still need to produce the 60 games apparently headed to CUSA-TV. Sun Belt's payment includes revenue to offset ESPN+ production costs.

Verdict: The Sun Belt payment is rumored to be in the range of $475,000 to $500,000 per year and production standards to produce the 51 games will be at ESPN standards. CUSA's payment is rumored to be in the $400,000 to $500,000 range and will not include the cost of producing 60 games for CUSA TV with mixed production values. Financially looks like a wash.

Sun Belt and CUSA will have an identical number of national linear telecasts with Sun Belt having a higher percentage of games on national linear TV reaching more potential homes than the CUSA TV deal. CUSA's mid-tier mixed distribution will have greater reach than the Sun Belt's ESPN+ component. The remaining games will be streaming only with the Sun Belt on a cheaper platform using the same technology as MLB.tv while CUSA's will be more expensive and of variable quality.

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One thing I thought was really cool is prior to the SBCCG there was an hour long pregame show that aired on ESPN+ live from the stadium. It's just a full blown commercial for the participating schools and the conference with interviews, season recaps, campus tours, video packages from local destinations, etc.. No talk of the CFP or P5 schools.
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(12-18-2020 09:59 PM)TTT Wrote:  CBSSports isn't on as many standard sports packages as it used to be 5 years ago and therefore casual football fans aren't watching that network as much as they used to. We really need to get our championship game on a linear ESPN channel or CBS/ABC on the prime Championships days, preferably that Saturday? For reference, other conference champ games:

MAC Championship - ESPN on Friday Night
PAC12 Championship - FOX on Friday Night
Big10 Championship - FOX on Saturday Morning
Big12 Championship - ABC on Saturday Morning
ACC Championship - ABC on Saturday Midday
MTN West Championship - FOX on Saturday Midday
SEC Championship - CBS on Saturday primetime evening
AAC Championship - ABC on Saturday primetime evening

CUSA Championship - CBSSports Network on Friday night.

It's obvious who's getting the short end of the stick on network/day/timeslots...

These are the following games ESPN/ABC would rather air on Saturday than the CUSA championship game:

TAMU vs Tenn - ESPN on Saturday Morning
Standford vs UCLA - ESPN on Saturday primetime evening
Arizona State vs Oregon State - Saturday nighttime late game 9:30pm

For future games, Judy should be trying everything she can do to get our CUSACG on those time slots that TAMU/TENN and Stanford/UCLA (ESPN morning and evening) OR an early CBS timeslot.

Your thoughts?

I believe our flagships are letting us down. Constantly playing down to the competition. We need them to lead.
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RE: What's it gonna take to get the CUSACG on linear ESPN on a Fri/Sat going forward?
A contract with ESPN.
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RE: What's it gonna take to get the CUSACG on linear ESPN on a Fri/Sat going forward?
(12-19-2020 11:34 AM)ESE84 Wrote:  We need 14 athletic directors/presidents to step up, state this goal, and make it happen through commitment by the schools to improve the product and commitment by the C-USA offices to negotiate this platform. Even two or three ADs leading the charge could make a difference.

The Sunbelt has used a powerful tool to improve - it dropped programs without this commitment. I would be in favor of setting minimum benchmarks for our programs, a 5-year deadline to reach them, and visible and consistent reporting of the progress school by school.

Rice would be the school that's "dropped." We have no commitment to athletics relative to the enormous stockpile of cash on hand. The public schools in this conference are struggling to keep what they already have.
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RE: What's it gonna take to get the CUSACG on linear ESPN on a Fri/Sat going forward?
Our football programs need to raise their game. That's where we start, and once we're more competitive as a conference, the network offers will improve. I could very well be naive, as I'm not into this particular subject as much as some others definitely are, but no one wants to tune in to watch football from a conference rated #10 of 10 or even #9 of 10, with a few hundred fans in the stands when there are so many other games to choose from.

Some people on here love to use our commissioner as a scapegoat for most of our shortcomings, but I'm sure it's far more difficult negotiating with networks when we have a crap product to offer them. It starts with us.
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RE: What's it gonna take to get the CUSACG on linear ESPN on a Fri/Sat going forward?
I have no dog in this fight just figured I would give my opinion. CUSA’s TV production level is not good. This isn’t just a CUSA thing it seems like the poorer G5 schools have issues like that too. Still it does remind me of a TX HS Football tv production.
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RE: What's it gonna take to get the CUSACG on linear ESPN on a Fri/Sat going forward?
(12-23-2020 10:50 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  
(12-18-2020 09:59 PM)TTT Wrote:  CBSSports isn't on as many standard sports packages as it used to be 5 years ago and therefore casual football fans aren't watching that network as much as they used to. We really need to get our championship game on a linear ESPN channel or CBS/ABC on the prime Championships days, preferably that Saturday? For reference, other conference champ games:

MAC Championship - ESPN on Friday Night
PAC12 Championship - FOX on Friday Night
Big10 Championship - FOX on Saturday Morning
Big12 Championship - ABC on Saturday Morning
ACC Championship - ABC on Saturday Midday
MTN West Championship - FOX on Saturday Midday
SEC Championship - CBS on Saturday primetime evening
AAC Championship - ABC on Saturday primetime evening

CUSA Championship - CBSSports Network on Friday night.

It's obvious who's getting the short end of the stick on network/day/timeslots...

These are the following games ESPN/ABC would rather air on Saturday than the CUSA championship game:

TAMU vs Tenn - ESPN on Saturday Morning
Standford vs UCLA - ESPN on Saturday primetime evening
Arizona State vs Oregon State - Saturday nighttime late game 9:30pm

For future games, Judy should be trying everything she can do to get our CUSACG on those time slots that TAMU/TENN and Stanford/UCLA (ESPN morning and evening) OR an early CBS timeslot.

Your thoughts?

I believe our flagships are letting us down. Constantly playing down to the competition. We need them to lead.

04-cheers
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