(12-19-2020 12:35 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (12-19-2020 12:13 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote: (12-19-2020 12:36 AM)quo vadis Wrote: (12-19-2020 12:21 AM)JRsec Wrote: (12-18-2020 11:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote: Congratulations to 3-2 Replacement team Oregon, PAC 12 Champs!
Three CCGs, three upsets.
Oregon is 4-2 and headed to an NY6 bowl!
In decision after decision within the PAC 12 they just keep digging their own grave.
They are playing several games tomorrow and none of them meaningful. Now other conferences including the SEC and Big 10 are as well, but their championship games are their last games of the day.
What tonight's game proved was two things.
1. The PAC leadership doesn't think through anything. If they don't play their CCG they have a better argument for inclusion than by playing it.
2. Their product is still crappy. It, like every PAC game I watched this year, was poorly played with lots of turnovers. What they have going for them on TV are brightly colored uniforms and big plays due to lousy defense beyond the line of scrimmage.
Yes, even the trophy presentation ceremony was an amateur - hour clown show.
A 3-2 replacement team that didn't even win its division is now the Champion, a conference that didn't start playing until the week after Halloween .... just a royal mess all around.
Still, I enjoyed the game. I enjoyed the MAC and CUSA games too. Fun night of football on my TVs.
Like you, Quo, I enjoyed the three CCGs. I watched the C-USA game and then switched to the Pac-12 one right after. Didn’t watch much of the MAC game but I was flipping channels on the 4th quarter.
I can’t really be critical of any team and conference this season. Until things get back to normal (hopefully by next summer), I can’t really judge how good or bad a conference is.
That's a great point. Given the virus situation, we should just be thankful for everyone who played.
If polls and rankings are involved, and they were with USC, and if the CFP rankings are involved, then criticism of the play of a school relative to their ranking is wholly in order.
Giving every sorry performance in the U.S. the blanket of COVID 19 excuse is disgusting. In hard times you deal with it. We've missed mail delivery on at least two normal business days. The local postmaster just says COVID. Well we got our mail during 9/11. We got our mail throughout the riots in 1968. We got our mail during the gas lines of 1976-7. The mail was always delivered during WWII.
It's not the first, nor the worst crisis this nation has faced and it shouldn't be an excuse for failure anywhere. And for the record we had college football, rightly or wrongly during the 1918 Spanish Flu outbreak which decimated many areas (that's a 10% death rate or higher).
So if USC is being pushed as late as last week by ESPN % of likelihood charts and touted as a possible #4 for the CFP by their pundits when they haven't really played but 1 ranked school and trailed late in 4 of their 5 games against inferior (supposedly) talent, I think noting their sloppy lackluster play is fair game.
Now has COVID affected some people's motivation? Yes. But when you have a job to do you do it regardless of whether you feel motivated or not. It's called accountability, or honor, or simply obligation and it's part of life for all of us. And yes how you control your self motivation is part of being a champion.
Are we fortunate to have football? Of course. But those who were able to continue work were fortunate to have that as well. Did that give them an excuse to slack off? No.
Give everyone a blanket excuse and many will use it. We are given each day of life and it is up to us to make the most of regardless of the circumstances. This real life understanding built this nation before years of privilege spoiled us into thinking we have the luxury of deciding when to work, or when to show up for life. And frankly I get sick of hearing the excuses to the contrary.
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PAC, MAC and CUSA Championship Games Discussion ....
