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Temple’s men’s 2020-2021 basketball season
Temple kicks-off it’s basketball season playing NJIT at 4:30 pm tomorrow. This is also NJIT’s first game. Fans are anxious to see Temple’s newly reconstituted roster play. NJIT was 9-23 last season. Has transferred from the A-Sun conference to the American East conference, and has virtually entire roster back. Temple given 76 percent chance of beating NJIT. Do think the game will be competitive.

Temple is scheduled to play it’s second game at Houston on Dec.22nd. Houston has announced that at one time or another all of it’s players contracted the Covid virus, but still plans to play this Sunday which would seem to indicate they will still play Temple as scheduled.

Houston, SMU, and Memphis are projected as the AAC’s three best teams.

While Temple is projected to finish near the bottom of the conference, it’s the most unknown team since they have not played as yet, and they have so many new players.

Temple starts the season with J.White recovering from surgery, and Brandon Barry not to play as yet. Strickland playing is a game time decision, and McKie not intending to play transfer S.Tolbert this season.

The starting line-up consists of freshman J. Williams, D.Dunn, D.Perry, JP Moorman, and J. Forrester. K. Battle, Quincy A., freshman N.Jourdain, and A.Parks will come off the bench.

Temple will be an even stronger team when transfer Brandon Barry joins the rotation in the near future.

Until then, I’m hoping that both Dre Perry and D.Dunn take a big step forward in leading Temple’s offense and scoring, along with incoming freshman Quincy A. will be coming off the bench. Nice if K.Battle and freshmen J.Williams play well against NJIT.

For Temple to hold their own this season, starters Forrester and Moorman will need to play far better than they did last season. Looking forward to seeing if Forrester now has a mid-range jump shot. Didn’t have that last season.

With both Forrester starting, McKie will have to keep an eye on his play. At some point, he may have to move Moorman over to center, and go with a smaller line-up.

Hope others provide their input on this thread.
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When both Strickland and Barry are able to play, it will be interesting to see which player wins the battle as Temple’s starting PG. Although both are terrific shooting the three-ball and Strickland is faster, Barry should start as he’s more experienced and will likely turn the ball over far less than Strickland will. McKie would be wise to run the offense thru other Temple players when Strickland is on the court.
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Lots to digest in Temple’s win over NJIT 72-60, especially seeing so many new players on the court for Temple. In the first half Temple scored well, amassing 42-points, but not so well in the second half as it scored but 30-points. Temple won the game at the foul-line scoring 22-points to NJIT’s 9-points from the charity stripe.

Temple’s struggles scoring in the second half was do inconsistent two point shooting on jump shots and scoring at the rim.

Forrester excessive fouled early on and McKie pulled him quickly. McKie also smartly made sure he didn’t excessively turn the ball over running timing plays for him which resulted in Forrester dunking the ball. He stilled managed to turn the ball over once and commit 4 fouls in only 11 minutes of play.

Parks was Parks, committing 4-fouls in only 10-minutes of play.

One can see in Mckie’s moves that he realized his best chance in winning games is playing small ball, and he did so.

Moorman did not shoot the ball till 5 minutes left in the game, but came-up big as he hit three-out of 4 three’s, and wound up scoring 10-points for the Owls. Hopefully, this is a sign going forward that his struggle last season shooting three’s is a thing of the past. Moorman’s 4-fouls in only 24 minutes of play was not good.

It does seem that Temple holding NJIT to but 60-points is more related to the fact that NJIT’s offense was bad last season, and remains so, and that Temple’s defense was good.

Temple needs to replace both Rose and NPL’s scoring, and in NJIT game, it appears both both Dunn and NPL. As Temple’s scoring was led by D. Dunn ( 18-points) and freshman J.Williams 11-points (4-9) from the field.

Freshman J.Williams had a terrific first game. He filled out the stat boxes. Not only did he score well but he had 4 rebounds, including 3-offensive rebounds, 3-assists, 2-steals, and an astounding 2-block shots. His combined 5-extra Temple possessions he gave Temple via 3 offensive rebounds and 2-steals, left Temple with a net positive 3-extra scoring opportunities when his 2-turnovers over 32-minutes are subtracted out. Amazing first game for a freshman. His 4 fouls were his main downsize. Boy, is he tenacious and quick.

Although both Dunn (4-12) and Perry ( 4-13) shot poorly from the field, surprisingly Dunn used some crafty fakes that resulted in his taking 13-foul shots (made 10) over the 37 minutes he played. Didn’t see that coming. He was a big part in Temple taking 30-foul shots, but that was aided somewhat by the home court refs. by the refs. Still not clear that Temple have players that can drive and consistently shoot well at the rim. Dunn also had 7-rebounds (ala NPL) and finished out three assists. He needs to clean up and not commit 4 turnovers as he did.

But even though Temple scored but 70-points in the game one can see some upside going forward as Barry who hadn’t even practiced, and is a terrific three point shooter, subbed in and shot but 1-4 on three’s. Don’t expect to see that again. Loved the fact he committed no turnovers in 20-minutes of play, and garnered 5-rebounds.

Do think Perry will shoot very well this season just as he did last season. His 14 rebounds, including 4 offensive rebounds were impressive, as was his one foul in 32 minutes of playing time. He should have played those minutes last season when Moorman was struggling.

Strickland is also a good three-point shooter, although against NJIT he was 0-3 on three’s. Don’t expect to see that again. Mckie was smart using Strickland as a SG and not having him distribute the ball. As a result he committed but one turnover. Instead, McKie had Williams, Dunn, and Moorman distributing the ball.

Quincy Ademokoya is considered a very good shooter. He only played 2 minutes. Hope we see him playing more going forward.

Freshman Nick Jourdain is a work in progress.

Battle and Tolbert didn’t play due to injuries. McKie is high on both players.

For a first outing, i’m not surprised by Temple’s 19-fouls, and 16-turnovers, and only 5 steals. Dissapointed Temple lost the turnover battle by a six turnover margin, but glad Temple had four more offensive rebounds than NJIT did.

So, even without consistent shooting, it appears Temple had a good first outing.
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While I thought that Barry would be Temple’s starting PG when he joined the roster, but J.William’s outstanding performance, puts that in doubt. The fact that both Barry and Strickland played together leads me to believe that both Williams will continue to be paired with D.Dunn and Barry will continue to be paired with Strickland in the backcourt.

With Perry starting at SF, it will be interesting to see who both Battle and Quincy Ademokoya sub in for. It’s my opinion that Battle may challenge Strickland for playing time and may even challenge S.Dunn.

But I also envision Moorman moving to the Center position, and Dre Perry moving over to either PF or Center at times, and both Battle and Quincy Ademokoya playing the SF position.
So Temple’s offense looks very fluid.

Temple playing Houston ranked 6th in the country on Tuesday on Houston’s home court is a daunting task so early in the season.

Personally, i’m not overwhelmed by Houston, given they’re shooting only 43 percent on two’s and 32.3 percent on three’s. It won’t be difficult for Temple to put as good as shooters on the court.

The problem Temple faces is Houston offensive system That is based on low-turnovers, and dominating the offensive boards, and a trapping defense. Houston can be beat if an opponent can hold their own on the offensive boards, and not turn the ball over more than Houston does.

It’s difficult for Temple to match Houston on the offensive boards and also not committing more turnovers than Houston, asHouston is an experienced team that executed it’s system extremely well. Moreover, HC Samson had Mckie’s number last season as Mckie couldn’t keep Houston from having an overwhelming advantage on the offensive boards. Temple HC Dunphy did, but not McKie.

Also, under both Temple’s HC’s, the AAC refs have been very biased towards Houston when Temple has played there. As Houston just lived at the foul-line when Temple played on Houston’s home court.

One advantage Temple has is J. Williams, who at 6’5” with quickness, has the abort to shut down Houston’s Sasser, a deadly three-point shooter with deep range, if Mckie keeps him in Sasser’s face the whole game.
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Houston is going to be huge favorites on Tuesday to beat Temple on Houston’s home court.

Houston should be favored given that Houston has overall far superior basketball players. But that’s not reflected in Houston’s statistics and that’s almost deliberately so. As Houston thru four games is shooting just 43.3 percent on two’s. The players could be shooting a much higher percentage, by creating more plays for their gifted athletes to score at the hoop more in half-court, but that would likely result in more turnovers, and it’s HC K.Sampson doesn’t want.

So instead he’s created an offensive system that is based on two-point jump shots that are scored at a much lower percentage than shots at the hoop or three point shots. He creates two-point jump shots by having players flash into the lane, receive passes and then shoot, or dribble in from the perimeter and take two-point jump shots. The one benefit of Sampson’s offense is few turnovers.

Since Sampson knows those 2-point jump shots will be converted at a low-rate, he counters that by sending two players to the offensive boards on virtual every play, and thus his players snag close to 25 percent of all missed shots, and score off mostly put-backs.

There is an element of cheating built in as often the offensive rebounders are in the paint for more than three seconds, but they’re in constant motion in the paint, and so refs rarely call such Houston violations.

Such offense basically neuters really good bb players, and is not fun to play in watch. As the ball basically travels around the horn on the perimeter till Houston gets what they want.

Sampson does recruit some good three-point shooters. This year he has but Sasser who’s shooting 50 percent on three’s. If left alone, Grimes also can be hot on three’s. Opponents should concentrate on trying to deny Sasser and Grimes from shooting the three-ball.

Defensively, Sampson does a good job stopping the three ball. He also traps along the baseline and wings to create turnovers.

To beat Houston, an opponent must try to keep Houston off the offensive boards and win the turnover battle. Temple’s HC Dunphy with the same players two years ago, was successful in dong that, HC McKie was not last season, but still managed to lose by only four-points.

Houston is also vulnerable to a pressure half-court defense as it’s players aren’t use to dealing with that. Tech Tech did that in the second half playing Houston, and held Houston to 27-points. Houston made only six field goals, (3-two’s, and 3-three’s) in the second half by continually causing Houston to turn the ball over.

Based on Temple’s first game, it’s a far different team than last season. It’s not able to get to the hoop in half court sets as they did last year, and instead relied upon 2-point jump shots. Surprisingly, Temple went to foul-line way more than last season, but that’s not likely to happen playing a far superior team like Houston Their home court, and where AAC refs have been biased for Houston in games played there.

For Temple to be competitive shooting-wise, Temple needs to shoot it’s three’s very well. Probably to early in the season to do that against Houston.
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Some observations and things we learned about Temple’s players in the NJIT game.

Appears that Temple’s top rebounders will be Perry and D.Dunn.

Temple’s PGs will likely be freshman J.Williams and transfer B. Barry, with T. Strickland being the odd man out, and having to compete against D. Dunn, K. Battle, and Quincy Ademokoya for playing time as Temple’s SG.

It’s beyond me why McKie played Strickland over Quincy A, when Quincy A. is reportedly a much better player.

D. Dunn showed against NJIT that he’s primarily a two-point jump shooter, and not a three point shooter. Did a great job drawing fowls, but his 4 turnovers is concerning. Not a good defender as he’s slowly afoot, and although he played poorly on defense against NJIT, he did helped out by NJIT shot quite poorly.

Glad to see that Perry played 32 minutes and take a lot of Temple’s fga’s, and that Dunn took Temple’s second most shots. Good omen going further as I believe both are among Temple’s best shooters. Barry should get in the mix as well. Nice to see Perry committing but one foul over 32 minutes. He’s come a long way. I’ve spoken to him a couple of times after games over the years in his needing to cut down on fouling.

Looks like Forrester playing 11-minutes is a carry over from his being in Mckie’s dog house toward the end of last season. His excessive fouling got Forrester to the bench very quickly. Glad Temple at least got some quick initial scoring from him in the beginning of the game. From Mckie’s comments a couple of days ago it looks like he has more confidence in Sage Tolbert’s skill-set. Just hope he recovers soon from an unspecified knee injury, as Temple surely needs him.

Hard to see Parks playing even 9 minutes a game as he did in NJIT game, if he can’t reduce his high number of fouls (4) and turnover rate (had 2-turnovers in NJIT game). A continued carry-over from last season.

Temple shot but 30 percent on three’s last night and took 36 percent of their fga’s as three. Would not even had been anywhere near 30 percent if Moorman did not make 3-three’s in the last five minutes of the game.Like to see both numbers rise as the conference gets got underway.

Temple shot but 45 percent on two’s against NJIT. Although slightly better than the 43 percent Temple shot last season, it’s nowhere near the 49 percent Temple shot two year’s ago when they finished with a 23–10 season record, and 13-5 in conference play. Temple having to rely on 2-point jump shots and not scoring more at the hoop, is one reason Temple’s two-point shooting not near where it needs to be. May get worse playing better teams.

Playing a pressure defense in half court sets would increase opponent turnovers, and result in easy lay-ups. Temple needs to do that more, as well as shoot three’s more and at a higher rate..
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One of the reasons Temple’s fouling is excessive is because of the coaching. Two years ago,, I was observing a Temple practice. Hamilton kept reaching and fouling his opponent when he had the ball. A coach nearby simply said to him “stop fouling.’ Such meant nothing. What the coach should have said “ never put your hand or body on your opponent when he his hands.” ball, and keep a distance from your opponent with your body between your man and the basket, and be ready to give ground and block a shot in the crease of the basket, and just go straight-up if he instead decides to take a jump shot so you don’t foul. “

I never saw witnessed such said once by any coach. It pained me to watch Hamilton, D.Moore, and Forrester in games do none of things they should have been doing as they were not taught correctly how to play correctly inside. They still haven’t. One has to just see that in they combined for 8-fouls committed in only 20-minutes of combined playing time. Each foul usually costs a team approximately 1-point. But Temple was lucky their 19-fouls only resulted in NJIT taking but 12-foul shots. Forrester and Parks 8-fouls could have cost Temple 8-points by two Temple players in only 20 minutes. Forrester and Parks combined in scoring 10-points, but their excessive fouling distracted from their scoring.



Hamilton coach at Kent State has obviously taught Hamilton how to play good defense at Kent State as he’s greatly reduced his fouling there to 1.3 fouls per 40 minutes, thus cutting his rate of fouling almost in half from the 2.2 fouls per 40 minutes he averaged when he played at Temple.
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Last season, Temple for the first time in a long time committed more turnovers than it’s opponents.

Temple committed 16-turnovers in the NJIT game which is not bad considering Temple has a newly constituted roster. Dunn had four turnovers and he needs reduce the number of turnovers he commits.

I’m pleased that McKie realizes that he needs to play both Moorman and Perry as his two primary front court players, as it allowed Temple to score more points and give up fewer points against NJIT. Just wish he had realized that last season. Loved Perry garnering 14 rebounds against NJIT.
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James Scott is tearing it up playing for Portland State University in the Big Sky conference play. Last team in nation to start practicing together 3-weeks ago. PSU plays mostly a full-court pressing defense.

PSU’s HC switched Scott to PG yesterday when PSU faced Weber State (Damian Lillard’s alma mater). As Scott scored 26-points in the game, including 20-points being scored in the first-half. He also had 6-total rebounds (3 offensive rebounds), 3-assists, and had an astounding 6 steals.

In PSU’s 6 games, Scott has shot 35.7 percent on three’s.,

Playing an average of 30 mpg in two conference games, he’s averaging 21 ppg, on 55 percent shooting on two’s, and 50 percent shooting on three’s ( 5-10). Also averaging 5.5 rebounds and 4 steals per game in conference play.

For the season, Scott is ranked 13th among guards in the nation by averaging 3 offensive rebounds per game. Also, in top 100 players in steals per game as he’s averaging 2-steals per game.

Scott is finally being played at PG, his natural position. He’s a wizard with the ball on fast breaks. He last played PG in two games for Temple played in the Bahamas. He was terrific doing so. I previously mentioned that an NBA scout who sat with me at Temple’s game there, commented that he was impressed with Scott’s court vision and timely passing, and said he may well have NBA potential playing the PG position.

Playing for Temple, he showed his ability to distribute the ball. As he had six assists playing SMU, and 4 assists in the UConn game.
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Last night, Houston beat Temple 76-50. Houston’s 25 point scoring differential can be explained by Houston garner 6 more offensive rebounds than Temple did, that resulted in Houston having a 13-point advantage on second chance points, as Houston scored 17-points off their 15-offensive rebounds compared to Temple scoring just 4-points off their 9-offensive rebounds, and Houston scoring 11-more points off Temple’s turnovers even though Temple committed just one more turnover than Houston did.

Prior to the game, I pointed out that I suspected that Temple was a far better three-point shooting team and that I suspected that Temple shooting two point jump shots would be inconsistent and that simple did players who could score well at the rim as they did last season. I also indicated that Temple needed to shoot a lot of three’s playing Houston. Temple only took 14-three’s. Temple did shoot well on three’s converting on 6, thus at 35.7 percent rate on three’s. That’s quite good.
Temple should have shot twice as many three’s.

Instead, Temple took 31 two’s and made just 8 two’s. That’s just 25.8 percent shooting two’s. It was almost foreseeable that was going to happen as Houston’s defense is based on trapping and stopping scoring near the hoop. This was compounded by the fact that Temple has few players who can get to and finish at the rim. McKie made no adjustment as Temple continued to miss two point shots.

McKie did not employ a pressure defense that would have produced steals and led to easy lay-ups. Temple had but 3 steals the entire game.

While Temple was taking 31 2-point attempts, Houston shot 18-32 or 56 percent on two’s compared to Temple’s 25.8 percent. But in the first half Temple was defensively aggressive inside and held Houston to only shooting only 36.3 percent on 4-11 two-point attempts, and Houston scoring but 32-points. But, Temple’s defense fell apart in the second half as Houston scored 44-points.

Temple needed to do stop Houston’s Quentin Grimes from scoring on three point shots. Temple made little effort to do so, as Grimes scored 12-points on three’s by shooting 4-9 on three’s. Houston made 4 more three’s than Temple did.

Surprisingly, Temple did outscore Houston at the foul-line. Temple should have scored more points but the refs were homers.

Does appear that Moorman has revamped his shooting form in ways i’ve suggested in a previous post, and is going to have a fine year. He needs to shoot three’s way more than he did. Perry and Barry should help Temple as well.

Damian Dunn should not be the focus of Temple’s offense as he was last night. His turnovers are killing Temple ( had six last night) and he should not be a featured play. Should play much better in a limited role. The offense should be run through Barry.

Forrester’s poor play from last season has continued by his excessive fouling and turnovers playing Houston. He still can’t rebound the ball.

Had high hopes for Quincy Ademokoya as he presented as an excellent shooter, but his defense is said be terrible.

Other than Moorman, Perry, and Barry, I don’t see Temple having any good players.

Temple has some good players in Moorman, Barry, and Perry who can hit the three-ball,. Moorman shot 2-4 on three’s, and Barry 3-4 in three’s. Both should have shot far more. Perry was not put in good positions to take three’s last night and he only shot one three. Mckie did not installed an inside-out game that would allow Temple to shoot far more three’s and convert them at a higher rate as players would have more open three’s. Players hit three’s at a higher rate when they receive the ball facing the hoop than when they receive a pass from the side, and then shoot a three-ball. Temple needs to take almost half it’s fga’s as three’s to be competitive, and not just 33 percent as they did last night.

One can only hope that Battle is a decent player who can help Temple when he recovers from his
quad injury.

For the last two years, i’ve been arguing that McKie when became had coach had to build on Fran Dunphy’s 23-10 record in order to sign top flight recruit. With Temple finishing this past season with a 14-17 record, any chance of signing a good recruiting class was doomed.

NPL, JPL, Scott, and Hamilton did not return, and all three are playing extremely well at their new schools. Scott has shot 50 percent on three’s in his first two conferences games, and 53 percent in his last three games (7-13). If those players returned, Temple would have had a far stronger team that is now has.,a lot this season

Temple fans support for Mckie cleaning house made a big mistake as players the new players McKie recruited are nowhere of the caliber of the players who transferred out. Unfortunately, Temple’s program has not taken a step foreword, but rather has taken a big step backwards, that in my view, will take years to undue. McKie has brought this debacle upon himself.

Temple does have some new tough grittily players that play hard, but who’s talent level is not good. The poor performance of Temple players in the Houston game amply demonstrates that in spades.

I said in a earlier in a post that I was going to take a break, and this is a good point to do so as I don’t want to find myself looking forward to next season. Happy Holiday’s to all!!
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McKie did a fine job in the first-half of the Houston game by playing an aggressive defense which kept Houston off their offensive glass that helped limit Houston to scoring but 32-points.

However, McKie made a fatal mistake by have the team shoot mostly two’s as that played right-in to Houston’s trapping defense that resulted in Temple committing 19-turnovers.

I’ve expressed that this reconstituted Temple team will not likely get to the rim in half-court sets as last year’s team did, and therefore Temple should shoot more three-pointers. However, players like Moorman and Perry, can score at the rim and need to do so more. In the past both haven’t driven to the hoop often and both need to be taught various techniques so they can be effective scoring at the hoop.

In the Houston game, both Barry and Moorman shot three’s well, but unfortunately Temple took only to 14-three’s. When Temple’s three-point shooters are on, Temple needs to take more.

With Brandan Barry being new to the team and Williams just a freshman, HC McKie had little choice in playing Houston but to run Temple’s offense thru D.Dunn, even though that turned into an unmitigated disaster as he committed 6-turnovers. Hopefully, the offense will be run thru PG Brandon Barry going forward.

Also seems clear, that Moorman, Perry, and Barry need to take Temple’s most fga’s in most games going forward. Also Dunn, if he starts shooting two’s as he’s capable of. Hope that occurs.
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Even though Temple lost to SMU 79-71, the score is not indicative of how well Temple played against arguably the second best team in the conference, as Temple even had the lead at one point in the second-half.

Even though only Temple’s third game, Temple improved in a lot of areas from when the lost to Houston by 25-points. Committing 10 fewer turnovers than Temple did in the Houston game and making more three’s allowed Temple to score far more points than the 50-points they scored playing Houston. Also, running Temple’s offense thru both Williams and Barry, and not Dunn, allowed Dunn to the 6-turnovers he committed playing against Houston, as Temple committed but 9-turnovers in the entire SMU game. By McKie having Dunn play-off the ball, he shot quite well and scored 15-points on 5-8 shooting from the field.

Although I have called for Temple to shoot more 3’s, there’s a caveat. And that is if any player misses the first three he takes, he should stop shooting three’s and shoot two’s instead. If the HC doesn’t tell his players to do that, the players on their own should place such restraint on themselves.

Temple lost the SMU because both Moorman and Perry shot three’s poorly. Perry was Temple’s best shooter last season, but has gotten off to a horrendous start. Moorman shot only 2-12 from the field. When he or any other player is off shooting the ball, they should limit the number of shots they take.

As Perry in the SMU game, shot but 1-7 on three’s, and Moorman shot but 1-6 on three’s. Although both didn’t shoot two’s well, both should have driven to to the hoop more. As Moorman has shot 60 percent at the rim (3-5), and made just 14.3 percent (1-7) on 2-point jump shots. McKie needs to design some back-cuts so they both can score at the rim.

Forrester has not improved from last season as he’s still committing excessive turnovers and fouls. He started, played 23 minutes, and committed 3-turnovers and 4-fouls. He did have 12-rebounds, but many of those were off his own misses. He shot 3-9 from the field. Parks was equally as bad in his 7-minutes of play.

Forrester has to play as freshman N.Jourdain is Mckie’s only other option. How McKie could let Justyn Hamilton transfer-out is a head-scratcher. When Forrester plays, his offense should be limited to put-backs to keep him from committing turnovers. No plays should be run for him. He should strictly be used to defend and rebound. We’ll have to live with his excessive fouls since the coaching staff seems unable to teach him to back-off his opponent with the ball, stay between opponent and basket, and not make contact with his opponent.

The starters should be- Barry at PG, Dunn and Williams at the wings, and Perry and Moorman up-front. Barry is Temple’s best player and needs to start. He was Temple’s top scorer with 17-points coming off the bench. He was 5-10 on three’s. Barry needs to be shooting 15 fga’s per game, not the 8.5 fga’s he’s averaged to date, as he mostly shoots three’s and has shot three’s at 50 percent. His defense is weak do to his lack of quickness. Dunn also needs to shoot more as well.

Williams is doing a fine job scoring wise and on defense. He’s shooting 62.5 percent at the rim (5-8). He’s shot 4-11 on 2-point jump shots. He’d be far better off going to to the rim more and taking far fewer two point jump shots. His weakness so far is turnovers and not hitting the three-ball.

Strickland has not played well so far. He’s 1-13 from the field, including 1-8 on two’s, and 0-5 on three’s. He’s a good three-point shooter. No reason he should be shooting two’s, and until he starts hitting three’s, his playing time should be limited. Temple should be stronger when K.Battle has recovered from his injury and is able to play. When that happens, Strickland’s playing time should be greatly reduced.

Some might think that this year’s Temple squad is really terrible because of it’s poor performance so far in conference play as Temple is shooting but 35.3 percent on two’s (next to last in the conference) , and only 31.1 percent on three’s (7th best out of 11 conference teams). Temple should be able improve in both categories.

In the SMU game, Temple did shoot 43.2 percent on two’s, the same percentage they shot last season. This is a good start.

Glad to see that Temple is almost getting to the foul-line as much as it’s conference opponents. Temple is averaging 6-more made foul-shots per game than it’s opponents due to Temple shooting 72 percent from the foul-line compared to it’s opponents 56 percent. Dunn is leading Temple with 6.5 foul-shots per game, followed by Williams at 3.5 foul shots per game. Both are converting their foul shots at 85 percent.

Temple’s achilles heal is it’s defense. McKie needs to have Temple apply more pressure, and thus create more turnovers. Temple also needs to do a better job stopping the three-ball as in conference play opponents are shooting 39.1 percent on three’s. SMU’s guards and bigs alike shot two’s well as SMU shot a whopping 57.5 percent on two’s.
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Poor Granger. Very nice guy but provides readers with a very skewed picture of Forrester’s stats and does not indicate how poorly Temple played when Forrester was on the court. Some poster indicated that Granger doesn’t even watch games on television. Don’t know if that’s true.

On Temple’s Cherry and White board, Granger notes that Forrester had a “very productive game.” Ignores and does not site Forrester’s unproductive stats.

Ignores that Forrester in 23-minutes shot but 3-9 from the field, and committed two turnovers and four fouls. Forrester has a minus 7 box score. Applying Forrester’s performance using the 100 possessions metric, Temple scored but 80-points and gave up 109-opponent points, a 29-point negative differential for Temple.

He should be out of starting line-up and replaced by Barry.

Really looks like Barry, Dunn and Williams will more than adequately offensively replace the departed Alani Moore, NPL, and Rose, but not so on defense. Hopefully, the team playing more together will improve Temple’s .

Temple’s lack of defense is likely to cause Temple to have a far worse conference record than last season. There are things McKie can do to prevent that. Applying a pressure defense more often and making a concerted effort to stop the three-ball would be a good start.

Really need for Perry to be the Perry who shot the lights out playing limited minutes last season, and for Moorman to play far better than he did last season.
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Monty Scott is killing it at Portland State. pSU’s HC is a player’s coach. He smartly moved Scott to PG three games ago.In his first game playing PG scott had five steals in the first 15-minutes applying PSU’s full-court press, of play and scored 20-points in the first-half. Wound-up scoring 26-points in the game against Weber State that Damian Lillard played for.

After seeing him play PG a year ago for Temple in two games in the Bahamas, i said that Scott’s natural position is playing PG.In those games, an NBA scout told me that he agreed. Scott’s now a triple threat player as he can hit the three, shoots mid-range jumpers well, and can score at the rim. Scott is now going to the boards and averaging more than 5 rebounds per game. Is a great passer in the open court.

PSU’s HC Peery moved Scott to SG in the second half of the Weber State game, and he wound-up scoring 26-points in the game.

In last three games, Scott has averaged 19 ppg, shot 51 percent on fga’s, and 62.5 percent on three’s (7-13). In 5 Division 1 games, Scott is shooting 40 percent on three’s. HC Peery in a podcast has called Scott very humble, and further said that Scott often defers to other players, and doesn’t seek the lime-light.

His being the best mid-range shooter in the AAC has continued after he transferred to the Big Sky conference, as PSU’s information director on a podcast compared his outstanding mid-range jump shot to that of CJ McCollum’s who plays for the Portland Trailblazers.
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I feel confident that if HC McKie primarily plays a backcourt of Barry, Dunn, and Williams, offensively Temple is going to do just fine. All three performed well in the SMU game. All three are an upgrade offensively over A.Moore, NPL, and Rose. Both Barry and Dunn are not as good defensively as Rose and NPL.


Temple seems to have solved in the SMU game it’s committing excessive turnovers. That can pay large dividends if Temple continues to do so going forward.

Hopefully, Barry will be inserted into the starting line-up and Forrester sent to the bench. I’ve said pre-season that Temple’s best line-up is when Temple goes small and proven true playing both Houston and SMU.

Temple can do even better if both Perry and Moorman can produce offensively. Perry was terrific last season but has yet to produce in Temple’s first three games. Moorman was hot in Temple’s first two games but was just 2-11 from the field playing against SMU. Both need to drive to hoop more when they’re three’s not falling.

Just hope that McKie doesn’t revert to Temple shooting fewer three’s period, rather than controlling players by limiting the number a player takes if that players if first few three’s a player takes miss.

Temple also needs to fast-break and score on easy baskets. It’s two conference opponents have. Defensively, Temple players need to get back in transition defense quicker than they have.

Temple’s inside defense will be strengthened when we see less of Forrester and Parks. Temple has made no effort to stop the three-ball and needs to as Temple can’t afford to have conference opponents continue to shoot 39-percent on three’s, and 56 percent on two’s.

McKie should also give freshman Nick Jourdain a look. Does seem that anyone will be an upgrade over Forrester and Parks.

Temple is playing short-handed without Tolbert, Battle, and White being able to play, and is not getting any production from Quincy Ademokoya and T.Strickland. Playing both Strickland and Forrester over 20 minutes inthe SMU game proved costly.

Temple is capable of winning some conference play if Mckie will make some necessary moves in changing the starting line-up, have players not shoot excessive three’s if their off, and apply a pressure defense.
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Temple plays a critical away game against Tulane on Wednesday. The game is a must-win game as Tulane is arguably the worse team in the AAC. If Temple can’t win this game, Temple is likely to struggle to find a win against other AAC opponents.

Temple’s backcourt is stronger offensively than last season as Barry, Dunn, and Williams are all good scorers.

Temple’s front court was not good last season, and it’s even worse so far this season as Perry has yet to provide the offensive production Temple needs. McKie is not improving the front court by continuing to play Forrester who’s a disaster on both sides of the ball.

Until both Perry and Moorman start consistently shooting well, McKie would be wise to have it’s back court shoot way more than they have.

Temple may well have a good front court if Sage Tolbert is able to play, J.White as well, when he recovers from his injury. Hopefully, Battle can help the back court when he returns.
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Whether intentional or not thru three games, only 31.6 percent of all of Temple’s fga’s have been 2-point jump shots, down substantially from Temple taking 46 percent of all their fga’s as 2-point jump shots last season. Such is a good thing as Temple converts 2-point jump shots at a very low percentage.

Last season, Temple shot but 29-percent on 2-point jump shots. In three games played this season, Temple has upped it 2-jump shot percentage to 33.9 percent (19-53). Even with such improvement, Temple would be far better off driving to the rim and shooting more three’s.

Temple players who are shooting 2-point jump shoots poorly and should stop shooting them altogether are Moorman (1-7), Forrester (2-7), and Strickland (0-3).

Forrester should confine himself to put backs, so he doesn’t turn the ball over. Rebounding on the defensive end.

Poor shooting on 2-point jump shots is an area that McKie can help overcome by designing plays that don’t call for 2-point jump shots, and by telling the above-named players to refrain from shooting them.
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By Scott and Hamilton transferring out, Temple lost two players who they have not replaced. A Barry-Scott backcourt would have had the deadliest two point-shooters in the backcourt, than the present Barry-Dunn backcourt are, as Scott is shooting three’s at 35.7 percent thru six games, and at 62.5 percent over the last three-games. And with Scott now playing PG for Portland State, McKie would have had the option of playing either Barry or Scott at PG.

Hamilton is also having a terrific season at Kent State, and is a far better player than Forrester is. Too bad that McKie couldn’t get such play from Hamilton last season.

McKie didn’t realize that if both Scott and Hamilton had returned this year, they would have under new rules recently adopted by the NCAA because of this shortened-season due to the pandemic would have had the option to return next season.
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RE: Temple’s men’s 2020-2021 basketball season
Interesting stat to follow this season is Dunn’s fouling rate. As he leads Temple in committing the most fouls. He’s averaging four fouls per game thru three games, and 4 fouls per game in 2-conference games.
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McKie needs to do four obvious things if Temple is to win games: (1) Get Barry to shoot more three’s; (2) Have Perry and Moorman drive to the hoop more and when off shooting three’s; (3) Run no plays for Forrester iso he will to not turn the ball over as often as he does, and play less minutes so he can’t foul much, and (4) Pressure the perimeter in order to reduce opponents three-field goal percentage and cause opponents turnovers.
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