(12-18-2020 06:01 PM)70shawk Wrote:  Free throws were huge

Its good to see this aspect strong so soon. Previous teams lost many games because this was lacking

I agree with 82 and which is probably why I thought he was playing less than he is. I just went and looked at all his minutes.

Also, I agree with Seahawk2010. Pridgeon is the stud on this team IMO. Sims is always going to be a very good player, but I think since Pridgeon has come on, he’s going to be the star packer and lead the way for us. That tandem is going to be fun to watch all year.


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(12-18-2020 10:10 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  I agree with 82 and which is probably why I thought he was playing less than he is. I just went and looked at all his minutes.

Also, I agree with Seahawk2010. Pridgeon is the stud on this team IMO. Sims is always going to be a very good player, but I think since Pridgeon has come on, he’s going to be the star packer and lead the way for us. That tandem is going to be fun to watch all year.


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Y'all make a good point. His role will probably need expand as teams start to zero in on Sims. A lot of options on this team, and we still have yet to see Shy.

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Boggs' clutch 3s courtesy of The Seahawk Perch

Good to see Boggs step up big! Hope that Harvey will be back for Camels. Joe P has played well and stepped up when Sims was not his normal self. We have a ton of weapons. Once we get to full strength, watch the heck out!

Yes, I called it and called the WCU win over C of C. That officially 2 and 0. I will give later "locks" when I see them.

(12-18-2020 10:01 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  

(12-18-2020 09:43 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-18-2020 09:26 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  

(12-18-2020 09:03 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-18-2020 08:25 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  Better Minutes? He's played 30+ minutes in every game he's been healthy in minus Ole Miss

Boggs is one of the best players on this team, but he seems to disappear for stretches. I think that's why it doesn't seem like he plays as much as he does

Interesting. Granted I wasn't able to watch the Ole Miss game, I think he's been really effective in his role when he gets big minutes.

He's done really well. He's my favorite player on this team. But if you pay close attention, he tends to score in spurts. He'll score five points in two minutes, then not score for another 13 minutes. Then he'll knock down a pair of three pointers back to back and score six, then not score for 10 minutes. Then you look up at the end of the game and he has 15 points.

Yeah I get what you're saying but I think he's just playing within his role. IMO he doesn't really have to put up a bunch of points to be a huge contributor to this team. Hit shots when you're open and run the court on the fast break. Defensively he's been tasked with playing a lot more 5 than any of us thought would be necessary coming into the season.

Well, I guess that comes down to expectations. IMO, he's the best scorer on the team. Because he can score in so many ways, i'd like to see him really impose himself on the court more and call for the ball. He's hell on a fast break, imposing in the full court press, deadly from 3, and can finish at the rim. I have a feeling i'll see what i'm looking for once he puts on some size. But he's just an impressive kid. Definitley a next level player, even if he goes overseas.

(12-18-2020 10:01 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  

(12-18-2020 09:43 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-18-2020 09:26 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  

(12-18-2020 09:03 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-18-2020 08:25 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  Better Minutes? He's played 30+ minutes in every game he's been healthy in minus Ole Miss

Boggs is one of the best players on this team, but he seems to disappear for stretches. I think that's why it doesn't seem like he plays as much as he does

Interesting. Granted I wasn't able to watch the Ole Miss game, I think he's been really effective in his role when he gets big minutes.

He's done really well. He's my favorite player on this team. But if you pay close attention, he tends to score in spurts. He'll score five points in two minutes, then not score for another 13 minutes. Then he'll knock down a pair of three pointers back to back and score six, then not score for 10 minutes. Then you look up at the end of the game and he has 15 points.

Defensively he's been tasked with playing a lot more 5 than any of us thought would be necessary coming into the season.

Yeah. I wonder who could’ve ever seen that coming. This is what happens when you want to coach a small lineup. You force guys into playing outside of their best roles because they’re trying to fill a hole they shouldn’t be in to begin with. Boggs is a 3 or stretch 4. He has no business being tasked to be a regular 5.



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(12-19-2020 09:20 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-18-2020 10:01 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  

(12-18-2020 09:43 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-18-2020 09:26 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  

(12-18-2020 09:03 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Boggs is one of the best players on this team, but he seems to disappear for stretches. I think that's why it doesn't seem like he plays as much as he does

Interesting. Granted I wasn't able to watch the Ole Miss game, I think he's been really effective in his role when he gets big minutes.

He's done really well. He's my favorite player on this team. But if you pay close attention, he tends to score in spurts. He'll score five points in two minutes, then not score for another 13 minutes. Then he'll knock down a pair of three pointers back to back and score six, then not score for 10 minutes. Then you look up at the end of the game and he has 15 points.

Defensively he's been tasked with playing a lot more 5 than any of us thought would be necessary coming into the season.

Yeah. I wonder who could’ve ever seen that coming. This is what happens when you want to coach a small lineup. You force guys into playing outside of their best roles because they’re trying to fill a hole they shouldn’t be in to begin with. Boggs is a 3 or stretch 4. He has no business being tasked to be a regular 5.



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Even I’ll admit it’s not ideal defensively but we’re doing a good job using it to our advantage offensively. Boggs was wide open on both those 3s at the end of the game because their 5 refused to guard him out there. Siddle actually did a good job managing the offense/defense subs with Bowen and Boggs the last 5 minutes or so.

(12-19-2020 09:52 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 09:20 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-18-2020 10:01 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  

(12-18-2020 09:43 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-18-2020 09:26 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  Interesting. Granted I wasn't able to watch the Ole Miss game, I think he's been really effective in his role when he gets big minutes.

He's done really well. He's my favorite player on this team. But if you pay close attention, he tends to score in spurts. He'll score five points in two minutes, then not score for another 13 minutes. Then he'll knock down a pair of three pointers back to back and score six, then not score for 10 minutes. Then you look up at the end of the game and he has 15 points.

Defensively he's been tasked with playing a lot more 5 than any of us thought would be necessary coming into the season.

Yeah. I wonder who could’ve ever seen that coming. This is what happens when you want to coach a small lineup. You force guys into playing outside of their best roles because they’re trying to fill a hole they shouldn’t be in to begin with. Boggs is a 3 or stretch 4. He has no business being tasked to be a regular 5.



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Even I’ll admit it’s not ideal defensively but we’re doing a good job using it to our advantage offensively. Boggs was wide open on both those 3s at the end of the game because their 5 refused to guard him out there. Siddle actually did a good job managing the offense/defense subs with Bowen and Boggs the last 5 minutes or so.

Not ideal, but also it's a matter of cost/benefit. We can put some serious firepower out there with Boggs at the five and Pridgen at the four. Otherwise, they would probably be subbing in and out for each other. And right now, who can we put at the five that is significantly better in the post to rebound and defend? Turns out Dodd just isn't talented enough to overcome his size disadvantage.

Think about the players we have who can put up 15+ on any given night.

Gadsden, Okauru, Harvey, Sims, Pridgen, Boggs, and that's before Phillips hits the floor, who can fill it up as well.

If I were Siddle, i'd just go with the flow and start Boggs at the five. Press, then play zone to stop the drives to the bucket when we get into half court D. Let Boggs rotate at the four with Pridgen and five with Bowen to give him a rest. Then, Boggs can force the opponent to bring their five out to defend the three.

Okauru, Harvey, Sims, Pridgen, Boggs

Gadsden, Bowen, Tolefree, Dodd off the bench. Gadsden could rotate in for both Okauru and Harvey until Phillips returns.

(12-19-2020 10:14 AM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 09:52 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 09:20 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-18-2020 10:01 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  

(12-18-2020 09:43 PM)82hawk Wrote:  He's done really well. He's my favorite player on this team. But if you pay close attention, he tends to score in spurts. He'll score five points in two minutes, then not score for another 13 minutes. Then he'll knock down a pair of three pointers back to back and score six, then not score for 10 minutes. Then you look up at the end of the game and he has 15 points.

Defensively he's been tasked with playing a lot more 5 than any of us thought would be necessary coming into the season.

Yeah. I wonder who could’ve ever seen that coming. This is what happens when you want to coach a small lineup. You force guys into playing outside of their best roles because they’re trying to fill a hole they shouldn’t be in to begin with. Boggs is a 3 or stretch 4. He has no business being tasked to be a regular 5.



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Even I’ll admit it’s not ideal defensively but we’re doing a good job using it to our advantage offensively. Boggs was wide open on both those 3s at the end of the game because their 5 refused to guard him out there. Siddle actually did a good job managing the offense/defense subs with Bowen and Boggs the last 5 minutes or so.

Not ideal, but also it's a matter of cost/benefit. We can put some serious firepower out there with Boggs at the five and Pridgen at the four. Otherwise, they would probably be subbing in and out for each other. And right now, who can we put at the five that is significantly better in the post to rebound and defend? Turns out Dodd just isn't talented enough to overcome his size disadvantage.

Think about the players we have who can put up 15+ on any given night.

Gadsden, Okauru, Harvey, Sims, Pridgen, Boggs, and that's before Phillips hits the floor, who can fill it up as well.

If I were Siddle, i'd just go with the flow and start Boggs at the five. Press, then play zone to stop the drives to the bucket when we get into half court D. Let Boggs rotate at the four with Pridgen and five with Bowen to give him a rest. Then, Boggs can force the opponent to bring their five out to defend the three.

I agree our best lineup is with Pridgen and Boggs in the frontcourt. Pridgen proved he can guard the 5 some last night too. He might have a height disadvantage but he wasn't getting pushed around down there. Bowen becoming a legitimate rotation piece is a pleasant surprise. I'm still not ready to give up on Dodd just yet, though I understand where you are coming from...

(12-19-2020 09:20 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-18-2020 10:01 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  

(12-18-2020 09:43 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-18-2020 09:26 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  

(12-18-2020 09:03 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Boggs is one of the best players on this team, but he seems to disappear for stretches. I think that's why it doesn't seem like he plays as much as he does

Interesting. Granted I wasn't able to watch the Ole Miss game, I think he's been really effective in his role when he gets big minutes.

He's done really well. He's my favorite player on this team. But if you pay close attention, he tends to score in spurts. He'll score five points in two minutes, then not score for another 13 minutes. Then he'll knock down a pair of three pointers back to back and score six, then not score for 10 minutes. Then you look up at the end of the game and he has 15 points.

Defensively he's been tasked with playing a lot more 5 than any of us thought would be necessary coming into the season.

Yeah. I wonder who could’ve ever seen that coming. This is what happens when you want to coach a small lineup. You force guys into playing outside of their best roles because they’re trying to fill a hole they shouldn’t be in to begin with. Boggs is a 3 or stretch 4. He has no business being tasked to be a regular 5.



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If we're in a similar position in year 3, I'll agree with you. Steere addresses your specific concern, I think, at least from a profile perspective. If he's someone we an count on by March, our most significant gap is filled.

I like the scoring depth of the team. Sims can and has carried the team but it’s great that he doesn’t have to. Plenty of scoring options like 82 was saying.

It’s been good seeing Bowen step up but I would love to see Dodd do his thing too.And, it would be great to see Steere develop to the point of getting some time.

I really hope that Harvey is okay. He is definitely a future star of the team without a doubt. And, he is already a big contributor.

(12-19-2020 10:30 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  Steere addresses your specific concern, I think, at least from a profile perspective. If he's someone we an count on by March, our most significant gap is filled.

I gather whenever "personal reasons" are cited, I'm not supposed to ask. But does anyone have an idea of what's up with Steere?

(12-19-2020 10:30 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 09:20 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-18-2020 10:01 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  

(12-18-2020 09:43 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-18-2020 09:26 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  Interesting. Granted I wasn't able to watch the Ole Miss game, I think he's been really effective in his role when he gets big minutes.

He's done really well. He's my favorite player on this team. But if you pay close attention, he tends to score in spurts. He'll score five points in two minutes, then not score for another 13 minutes. Then he'll knock down a pair of three pointers back to back and score six, then not score for 10 minutes. Then you look up at the end of the game and he has 15 points.

Defensively he's been tasked with playing a lot more 5 than any of us thought would be necessary coming into the season.

Yeah. I wonder who could’ve ever seen that coming. This is what happens when you want to coach a small lineup. You force guys into playing outside of their best roles because they’re trying to fill a hole they shouldn’t be in to begin with. Boggs is a 3 or stretch 4. He has no business being tasked to be a regular 5.



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If we're in a similar position in year 3, I'll agree with you. Steere addresses your specific concern, I think, at least from a profile perspective. If he's someone we an count on by March, our most significant gap is filled.

I’m not counting on Steere at all. That’s like having a broken truck and waking up everyday thinking you can go crank it up without issue. Pass.


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Man that is harsh my man. Funny but harsh. Hope that he proves people wrong.

(12-19-2020 01:09 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  Man that is harsh my man. Funny but harsh. Hope that he proves people wrong.

I would love to be wrong, but I’m not looking through teal shaded glasses on this. I’m looking at the entirety of the young man’s college career in addition to what we’ve seen so far. It’s not logical to even contemplate us counting on him at this point.


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(12-19-2020 01:20 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 01:09 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  Man that is harsh my man. Funny but harsh. Hope that he proves people wrong.

I would love to be wrong, but I’m not looking through teal shaded glasses on this. I’m looking at the entirety of the young man’s college career in addition to what we’ve seen so far. It’s not logical to even contemplate us counting on him at this point.


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The point isn't that we should count on Steere. You're criticizing Siddle's roster composition in his first season and I'm pointing out that he has gone after the profile that he needs to be successful. If, after multiple years, he's still counting on kids that are 6'7, 190 to defend centers then we have a problem. It's not something I'm concerned with at this point.

(12-19-2020 02:46 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 01:20 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 01:09 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  Man that is harsh my man. Funny but harsh. Hope that he proves people wrong.

I would love to be wrong, but I’m not looking through teal shaded glasses on this. I’m looking at the entirety of the young man’s college career in addition to what we’ve seen so far. It’s not logical to even contemplate us counting on him at this point.


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The point isn't that we should count on Steere. You're criticizing Siddle's roster composition in his first season and I'm pointing out that he has gone after the profile that he needs to be successful. If, after multiple years, he's still counting on kids that are 6'7, 190 to defend centers then we have a problem. It's not something I'm concerned with at this point.

Okay, yeah. Makes sense. I can agree with that. I think part of the impatience on my end (and unfair to Siddle if I’m honest) is that he was Keatts’ guy and there’s that hope tied to too much expectation to be good immediately. The guys are off to a great start though, and I do hope Steere comes through and that we do go after more stable bigs going forward.


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(12-19-2020 04:38 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 02:46 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 01:20 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 01:09 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  Man that is harsh my man. Funny but harsh. Hope that he proves people wrong.

I would love to be wrong, but I’m not looking through teal shaded glasses on this. I’m looking at the entirety of the young man’s college career in addition to what we’ve seen so far. It’s not logical to even contemplate us counting on him at this point.


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The point isn't that we should count on Steere. You're criticizing Siddle's roster composition in his first season and I'm pointing out that he has gone after the profile that he needs to be successful. If, after multiple years, he's still counting on kids that are 6'7, 190 to defend centers then we have a problem. It's not something I'm concerned with at this point.

Okay, yeah. Makes sense. I can agree with that. I think part of the impatience on my end (and unfair to Siddle if I’m honest) is that he was Keatts’ guy and there’s that hope tied to too much expectation to be good immediately. The guys are off to a great start though, and I do hope Steere comes through and that we do go after more stable bigs going forward.


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Steere or not, I think we can compete at the top of the CAA this year. This team is loaded with scorers who can shoot the three ball, and our press can help limit the other teams offense.

But, more importantly, we look good past this year.

Phillips, Harvey, Pridgen, Boggs, Sims, Carr, Steere will all be here next year.

Phillips, Harvey Pridgen, Boggs, Carr, Steere the year after that.

That's a pretty solid core for the next two years.

(12-20-2020 07:39 AM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 04:38 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 02:46 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 01:20 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 01:09 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  Man that is harsh my man. Funny but harsh. Hope that he proves people wrong.

I would love to be wrong, but I’m not looking through teal shaded glasses on this. I’m looking at the entirety of the young man’s college career in addition to what we’ve seen so far. It’s not logical to even contemplate us counting on him at this point.


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The point isn't that we should count on Steere. You're criticizing Siddle's roster composition in his first season and I'm pointing out that he has gone after the profile that he needs to be successful. If, after multiple years, he's still counting on kids that are 6'7, 190 to defend centers then we have a problem. It's not something I'm concerned with at this point.

Okay, yeah. Makes sense. I can agree with that. I think part of the impatience on my end (and unfair to Siddle if I’m honest) is that he was Keatts’ guy and there’s that hope tied to too much expectation to be good immediately. The guys are off to a great start though, and I do hope Steere comes through and that we do go after more stable bigs going forward.


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Steere or not, I think we can compete at the top of the CAA this year. This team is loaded with scorers who can shoot the three ball, and our press can help limit the other teams offense.

But, more importantly, we look good past this year.

Phillips, Harvey, Pridgen, Boggs, Sims, Carr, Steere will all be here next year.

Phillips, Harvey Pridgen, Boggs, Carr, Steere the year after that.

That's a pretty solid core for the next two years.

I noticed one glaring omission. I’m not sure if it’s by accident or if you expect him to leave... Dodd.

Also, that’s a big assumption that none of them leave the program. I think it’s safe to say the three I consider locks to not leave are Harvey, Pridgeon (both Siddle guys) and Boggs. Boggs seems to play very well under Siddle so far and gets good minutes. We haven’t seen Phillips yet under Siddle so I just don’t know enough to say he’s a lock to stay put. Carr is a Siddle guy but has been non-existent on this team so far. Steere... do I really need to go there AGAIN? I’d rather not.


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