(12-18-2020 07:50 AM)dan10 Wrote:  I dont have FLO but did Juric really shut Daly down? 30 points on 50% shooting and every time he drove we fouled. Maybe it was sarcasm and I missed it. But yes our history against them and other city teams isnt good.

i started paying attention to who was guarding daly with about 10 minutes to go and it was mostly juric and...yes...i thought he shut him down. i couldn't tell you who guarded him before that.

(12-18-2020 07:27 AM)hiroshimacarp Wrote:  

(12-17-2020 08:36 PM)J.B. Wrote:  https://247sports.com/college/saint-jose...36/?page=1

Not sure if this is the same website that you read carp, but this was humorous to read. Their fans still think of Drexel as a Division II program and clearly haven't been paying attention to them, and only watched the LaSalle game, with was by far Drexel's worst game this year.

that's the one.

i didn't realize it had been 10 years since we beat them. even our 2011-12 team lost to them. it's a great time to be building in the caa and the city because everyone is down except for villanova. hopefully lasalle taught us a lesson in playing physical. even butler could use a little more of an edge especially offensively when he's trying to finish around the basket.

The win brings Drexel's all time record against SJU to 10-48. Now many of those losses may have come in Drexel's pre Division I era. But they were in the same conference for many years. This is my 30th year following Drexel basketball and I counted that this is the 5th time that Drexel beat them in that era. That means that they only beat the Hawks 5 times prior to 1992, the other 4 were all Bruiser coached teams. So this is definitely a big win for a program trying to fight back to be relevant again.

Interesting statistical note posted on Facebook today about James Butler.....

"In notching his 27th career double-double last night, James Butler became the first Division I men's player this season with 20+ points, 15+ rebounds and at least 5 free throws made without a miss."

Butler was clutch down the stretch as he went 4-4 in the last minute or so

Edit: Everyone was clutch down the stretch with their FT's not just Butler

(12-18-2020 08:43 AM)J.B. Wrote:  How do you follow the team so closely without FLO? Do you just follow along on the gamecast, listen to the audio, or do you have a secret video link?

If theres audio I listen while watching live stats, otherwise just live stats. Unfortunately despite looking far and wide, FLO games dont find their way onto the black market of streaming, unfortunately. Though that shows just how few people have FLO

flo is a good deal. during the offseason you can watch tons of sprint car races...including central pa so you can feel like you're at home.

Yeah despite being from there and living 2 miles from the drag strip for the US nationals and a few miles from Indianapolis motor speedway, I have 0 interest in racing, so that is not something that encourages FLO for me

I was wondering about Juric vs Daly too and I'm off work today so I went back and rewatched. These are what I came up with (I certainly could have missed something) for those guarding Daly. There were a few switches usually I assigned the play to whoever finished. There were a few fastbreaks where Daly wasn't involved so I didn't assign those possessions to anyone.

Player - possessions fgm/fga ftm/fta pts (not including fast breaks)
Walton 25 4/7 2/3 10
Juric 10 0/2 4/4 4
Okros 8 2/3 5
Wynter 7 1/1 3
Oden 6 0/3 0
Perry 1 1/1 2
Bell 1 0

He scored 6 points off fast breaks. I separated these out because it is a much different defending situation.
Juric and Wynter fouled him leading to free throws.
Okros was back and he made a layup

The two threes that I assigned to Wynter and Okros might be debatable. On Wynter's, Walton was originally guarding Daly, then switched; Cam was slow to recognize the switch and ran out late to the 3 pt line. In the Okros case, Okros was guarding Daly on a switch, someone else missed a three and Okros went after the long rebound which got tapped to Daly who was wide open.

Juric did a decent job including forcing a steal. He did give up the free throws on a drive and on the offensive rebound where he fouled out (and the fast break). From a points per possession, it was the same as Walton though.

You could argue Oden did the best job. Cam also did well when he was guarding him the entire possession.

(12-18-2020 09:55 AM)J.B. Wrote:  Interesting statistical note posted on Facebook today about James Butler.....

"In notching his 27th career double-double last night, James Butler became the first Division I men's player this season with 20+ points, 15+ rebounds and at least 5 free throws made without a miss."

That's the type of thing I research. The College Basketball at Sports-Reference Play Index goes back to 2010-2011, and it's the 83rd time a player did it. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/pla...=date_game is the list. Four previous CAA players did it:

Delaware's Justyn Mutts hosting Maryland-Eastern Shore on November 29, 2019
JMU's Darius Banks hosting Elon on January 18, 2018
Tramaine Isabell vs. Houston in Lynchburg, VA on November 17, 2017 (late in the season, NBC Sports praised Houston and asked how they lost to Drexel)
Northeastern's Scott Eatherton vs. Florida State in San Juan on November 24, 2013

None of those five (inlcuding Butler) spent their whole time in the CAA. Mutts and Banks transferred away, and Eatherton transferred from St. Francis (PA) to Northeastern.

Thanks Evan. That Drexel win against Houston was a a great win and pretty much a fluke as that was a bad Drexel team that year. I think that was Drexel's only win against a major conference opponent in the Spiker era. Drexel was 13-20 that year. That Houston team was 27-8 that year and lost in their 2nd NCAA Tournament game.

(12-18-2020 02:43 PM)Water Boy Wrote:  I was wondering about Juric vs Daly too and I'm off work today so I went back and rewatched. These are what I came up with (I certainly could have missed something) for those guarding Daly. There were a few switches usually I assigned the play to whoever finished. There were a few fastbreaks where Daly wasn't involved so I didn't assign those possessions to anyone.

Player - possessions fgm/fga ftm/fta pts (not including fast breaks)
Walton 25 4/7 2/3 10
Juric 10 0/2 4/4 4
Okros 8 2/3 5
Wynter 7 1/1 3
Oden 6 0/3 0
Perry 1 1/1 2
Bell 1 0

He scored 6 points off fast breaks. I separated these out because it is a much different defending situation.
Juric and Wynter fouled him leading to free throws.
Okros was back and he made a layup

The two threes that I assigned to Wynter and Okros might be debatable. On Wynter's, Walton was originally guarding Daly, then switched; Cam was slow to recognize the switch and ran out late to the 3 pt line. In the Okros case, Okros was guarding Daly on a switch, someone else missed a three and Okros went after the long rebound which got tapped to Daly who was wide open.

Juric did a decent job including forcing a steal. He did give up the free throws on a drive and on the offensive rebound where he fouled out (and the fast break). From a points per possession, it was the same as Walton though.

You could argue Oden did the best job. Cam also did well when he was guarding him the entire possession.

the inquirer commented on the job juric did too...for whatever that's worth. seemed pretty clear down the stretch that daly wasn't as much of a factor. their lack of a field goal for the last 8 minutes adds to that.

i'm just happy to be defending juric because any kind of production we get from the guys already in the program is a bonus. our success long term and even now comes down to this freshmen class. there's a lot of potential there. you expect butler and wynter to contribute...but guys like okros, juric, tadas, and i'll even throw in washington shouldn't be guys we rely on.