(12-19-2020 01:06 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 09:32 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(12-17-2020 09:47 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 04:50 PM)Crazier Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 09:40 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  Expect that it will be forced, at least in the sense of many employers eventually mandating it to keep your job.

I would have to quit my job then.

Unfortunately, it's not always a feasible option for many of us. The saving grace for me, at this point, is should my company mandate it (and I just checked on something internally that indicates they will once the initial vaccine rush has passed) I can and will use the religious exemption.

Yep, God has told me not to let them alter my DNA.

RNA-based vaccine cannot edit your DNA. Smoking cigarettes does.

Wait, so you are saying my DNA is not the same as when I was born?

Our DNA is modified on a daily basis.

(12-16-2020 09:53 AM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  I'm not taking a vaccine for a virus with a 99.5 survival rate....and climbing. Amazing how they were able to come up with a vaccine in 6 months for a virus that didn't exist a year ago. I'm sure its all fine.

Wow, just incredible, an incredible display of ignorance and stupidity.

(12-19-2020 04:52 PM)tigerpride96 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 09:53 AM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  I'm not taking a vaccine for a virus with a 99.5 survival rate....and climbing. Amazing how they were able to come up with a vaccine in 6 months for a virus that didn't exist a year ago. I'm sure its all fine.

Wow, just incredible, an incredible display of ignorance and stupidity.

Stay holed up in your house forever...im getting on with my life. I got a better chance of being struck by lightning than dying from coronavirus.

(12-19-2020 04:52 PM)tigerpride96 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 09:53 AM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  I'm not taking a vaccine for a virus with a 99.5 survival rate....and climbing. Amazing how they were able to come up with a vaccine in 6 months for a virus that didn't exist a year ago. I'm sure its all fine.

Wow, just incredible, an incredible display of ignorance and stupidity.

What is incredible is YOUR (continued) ignorance and stupidity. This is what a typical drug goes through for the testing stage alone.

Quote:Phases of Human Testing for Investigational Drugs
If the FDA gives the green light, the investigational drug will then enter three phases of clinical trials:

Phase 1: About 20 to 80 healthy volunteers to establish a drug's safety and profile, and takes about 1 year. Safety, metabolism and excretion of the drug are also emphasized.
Phase 2: Roughly 100 to 300 patient volunteers to assess the drug's effectiveness in those with a specific condition or disease. This phase runs about 2 years. Groups of similar patients may receive the actual drug compared to a placebo (inactive pill) or other active drug to determine if the drug has an effect. Safety and side effects are reviewed.
Phase 3: Typically, several thousand patients are monitored in clinics and hospitals to carefully determine effectiveness and identify further side effects. Different types and age ranges of patients are evaluated. The manufacturer may look at different doses as well as the experimental drug in combination with other treatments. This phase runs about about 3 years on average.

Only 1 out of 1,000 drugs make it to the stage where they are tested in humans. Often from a drug's creation to the time it makes it to your neighborhood drugstore, it can take 12-15 years. The testing phase alone in humans is 6 years.

This is for any type of drug, including those that treat cancer, heart disease, respiratory disease, leukemia, etc, needed by hundreds of millions of people who are critically ill.

So anyone who is healthy, has managed to avoid the virus up to now, and who has a history of being healthy has a very reasonable right to be worried. Literally every single person who takes it in the next 6 years is a guinea pig, using established scientific methods as a guide.

(12-19-2020 05:13 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 04:52 PM)tigerpride96 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 09:53 AM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  I'm not taking a vaccine for a virus with a 99.5 survival rate....and climbing. Amazing how they were able to come up with a vaccine in 6 months for a virus that didn't exist a year ago. I'm sure its all fine.

Wow, just incredible, an incredible display of ignorance and stupidity.

Stay holed up in your house forever...im getting on with my life. I got a better chance of being struck by lightning than dying from coronavirus.

Home life isn't so bad.

(12-19-2020 12:11 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 09:28 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 04:27 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 03:35 PM)tkgrrett Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 02:35 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  Why take it if they're still going to have lockdowns and manditory masks? I'll just do that.

Lockdowns and masks go away when we hit the inoculation target of 70%+ or whatever the number ends up being.

I'll believe it when......NEVER.

They got us right where they want us breh and they're going to keep us there.

You mean with their globalist boot on our neck? In the immortal words of Anthony Hopkins, screw em.

Absolutely awesome movie.

My all time favorite.

(12-19-2020 01:06 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 09:32 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(12-17-2020 09:47 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 04:50 PM)Crazier Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 09:40 AM)No2rdame Wrote:  Expect that it will be forced, at least in the sense of many employers eventually mandating it to keep your job.

I would have to quit my job then.

Unfortunately, it's not always a feasible option for many of us. The saving grace for me, at this point, is should my company mandate it (and I just checked on something internally that indicates they will once the initial vaccine rush has passed) I can and will use the religious exemption.

Yep, God has told me not to let them alter my DNA.

RNA-based vaccine cannot edit your DNA. Smoking cigarettes does.

I don't smoke and I was being hyperbolic.

(12-19-2020 04:52 PM)tigerpride96 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 09:53 AM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  I'm not taking a vaccine for a virus with a 99.5 survival rate....and climbing. Amazing how they were able to come up with a vaccine in 6 months for a virus that didn't exist a year ago. I'm sure its all fine.

Wow, just incredible, an incredible display of ignorance and stupidity.

So you get the vaccine and don't begrudge us who won't if we have a choice. What an incredible display of intolerance and arrogance.

Simple for me, I ain’t getting it..

(12-19-2020 04:52 PM)tigerpride96 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 09:53 AM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  I'm not taking a vaccine for a virus with a 99.5 survival rate....and climbing. Amazing how they were able to come up with a vaccine in 6 months for a virus that didn't exist a year ago. I'm sure its all fine.

Wow, just incredible, an incredible display of ignorance and stupidity.

You skeered?

(12-19-2020 09:59 PM)tigergg Wrote:  Simple for me, I ain’t getting it..

I’ll put you out like dexter Morgan and inject you sir.

(12-20-2020 05:06 AM)TigerSeth Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 09:59 PM)tigergg Wrote:  Simple for me, I ain’t getting it..

I’ll put you out like dexter Morgan and inject you sir.

Sincere question, for those who are opposed to getting the vaccine...

Why are you refusing?

I get the hesitation from the fast-tracking. But, if you can push politics and liberty/freedom aside for your answer...

What are you really concerned about?

(12-21-2020 12:13 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Sincere question, for those who are opposed to getting the vaccine...

Why are you refusing?

I get the hesitation from the fast-tracking. But, if you can push politics and liberty/freedom aside for your answer...

What are you really concerned about?

- The fast tracking is the main issue. Typically, a drug like this would be tested for 6 years before being put out to market.
- People who are always healthy who never get vaccinated don't want to take this for the same reason they don't get vaccinated for other stuff
- The politics isn't not taking it. The politics is being forced to take it

(12-21-2020 02:23 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-21-2020 12:13 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Sincere question, for those who are opposed to getting the vaccine...

Why are you refusing?

I get the hesitation from the fast-tracking. But, if you can push politics and liberty/freedom aside for your answer...

What are you really concerned about?

- The fast tracking is the main issue. Typically, a drug like this would be tested for 6 years before being put out to market.
- People who are always healthy who never get vaccinated don't want to take this for the same reason they don't get vaccinated for other stuff
- The politics isn't not taking it. The politics is being forced to take it

Cosine

The estimator had me in May. Got my first shot of two this morning. Your results may vary...

(12-16-2020 04:28 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 04:27 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 03:35 PM)tkgrrett Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 02:35 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  Why take it if they're still going to have lockdowns and manditory masks? I'll just do that.

Lockdowns and masks go away when we hit the inoculation target of 70%+ or whatever the number ends up being.

I'll believe it when......NEVER.

They got us right where they want us breh and they're going to keep us there.

Not me kemosabe. I live in a place where people are free

Seems to me there are a lot of people in the U.S. who feel that freedom is the right to remain ignorant. I know that I am ignorant and so am happy to live in a country where we are free to become factually informed and are not forced to follow cruel, corrupt, anti democratic autocrats.

(12-19-2020 05:13 PM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 04:52 PM)tigerpride96 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 09:53 AM)TigersRuleAll Wrote:  I'm not taking a vaccine for a virus with a 99.5 survival rate....and climbing. Amazing how they were able to come up with a vaccine in 6 months for a virus that didn't exist a year ago. I'm sure its all fine.

Wow, just incredible, an incredible display of ignorance and stupidity.

Stay holed up in your house forever...im getting on with my life. I got a better chance of being struck by lightning than dying from coronavirus.

Not factually accurate. The Rona is now the #1 cause of death in the U.S., lightning strike doesn't make the top 25. Maybe you could get killed driving drunk.

No matter what it tells you, subtract one cause I won't be taking it.

I'm taking one for the team....EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU are in line ahead of me.