(12-14-2020 01:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 01:02 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

Now, the Michigan Attorney General is threatening lawyers. Somebody needs to set her straight. A class action lawsuit, perhaps?

SHE is whom is demeaning her profession.

Go for it. What's another embarrassing loss gonna hurt at this point?

You do realize it was your dumb*** who said this was a human error.

It was not.

#Liar

(12-14-2020 01:07 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Its certainly worth noting that the Michigan.gov Dec 8th response doesnt deny anything that the OP release says. The Michigan.gov response simply appears to be an attempt to smear the group that requested to audit the machine---but it doesnt say their audit results are wrong. Basically---its largely spin and little substance.

The statement was before this release noted in the OP, so that would be impossible. And that group smeared themselves, many times over, for one by claiming Minnesota was Michigan.

(12-14-2020 01:08 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 01:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 01:02 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

Now, the Michigan Attorney General is threatening lawyers. Somebody needs to set her straight. A class action lawsuit, perhaps?

SHE is whom is demeaning her profession.

Go for it. What's another embarrassing loss gonna hurt at this point?

You do realize it was your dumb*** who said this was a human error.

It was not.

#Liar

She is following ...when you can't attack the message attack the messengers.

(12-14-2020 01:09 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 01:07 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Its certainly worth noting that the Michigan.gov Dec 8th response doesnt deny anything that the OP release says. The Michigan.gov response simply appears to be an attempt to smear the group that requested to audit the machine---but it doesnt say their audit results are wrong. Basically---its largely spin and little substance.

The statement was before this release noted in the OP, so that would be impossible. And that group smeared themselves, many times over, for one by claiming Minnesota was Michigan.

The MI SOS certified results that have been proven to be incorrect MULTIPLE TIMES, both before and after a software update. He's trying to save his ass.

And you lied about it being human error.

#DUMBAZZ

For the galactically stupid liars....

Quote:The first reports out of Antrim County after Election Day had former Vice President Joe Biden winning the county by 2,200 votes. That sent up alarms that something went wrong.

“It was a result of human error facilitated after two ballot corrections,” says Guy.

Late additions to ballots in two precincts, done incorrectly, started a chain reaction that lead to the mistake. Guy was grilled on the mistake by lawmakers during her testimony.

“It seems like you still don’t really have an understanding of what happened in your county,” says Representative Matt Hall of Marshall, “Is that fair? Or do you think you know what happened?”

“I do think I know what happened,” said Guy, “I believe that when we got a new flash drive, we should’ve pulled all of our jurisdictions back and re-programmed them. We did not do that.”

She says the next day was spent hand counting ballots to officially give the win to President Donald Trump, by nearly 4,000 votes.

“I must emphasize this human error did not in anyway,” says Guy, “Affect the official election results of Antrim County.”

Antrim County Clerk Testifies in Lansing Over Election Issues

Anybody with a functioning brain can see that this is a CYA attempt by the corrupt dems at the top of the MI government. They know they've been caught and hope that their pleas of innocence will sway others not to engage their brain and think for themselves. It works on Tom because he doesn't recognize evidence that contradicts his deeply held love for the democrat thieves and miscreants.

(12-14-2020 01:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  For the galactically stupid liars....

Quote:The first reports out of Antrim County after Election Day had former Vice President Joe Biden winning the county by 2,200 votes. That sent up alarms that something went wrong.

“It was a result of human error facilitated after two ballot corrections,” says Guy.

Late additions to ballots in two precincts, done incorrectly, started a chain reaction that lead to the mistake. Guy was grilled on the mistake by lawmakers during her testimony.

“It seems like you still don’t really have an understanding of what happened in your county,” says Representative Matt Hall of Marshall, “Is that fair? Or do you think you know what happened?”

“I do think I know what happened,” said Guy, “I believe that when we got a new flash drive, we should’ve pulled all of our jurisdictions back and re-programmed them. We did not do that.”

She says the next day was spent hand counting ballots to officially give the win to President Donald Trump, by nearly 4,000 votes.

“I must emphasize this human error did not in anyway,” says Guy, “Affect the official election results of Antrim County.”

Antrim County Clerk Testifies in Lansing Over Election Issues

So her testimony counts as evidence but the other 100s of sworn affidavits don't?
Gotcha.

(12-14-2020 01:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  For the galactically stupid liars....

Quote:The first reports out of Antrim County after Election Day had former Vice President Joe Biden winning the county by 2,200 votes. That sent up alarms that something went wrong.

“It was a result of human error facilitated after two ballot corrections,” says Guy.

Late additions to ballots in two precincts, done incorrectly, started a chain reaction that lead to the mistake. Guy was grilled on the mistake by lawmakers during her testimony.

“It seems like you still don’t really have an understanding of what happened in your county,” says Representative Matt Hall of Marshall, “Is that fair? Or do you think you know what happened?”

“I do think I know what happened,” said Guy, “I believe that when we got a new flash drive, we should’ve pulled all of our jurisdictions back and re-programmed them. We did not do that.”

She says the next day was spent hand counting ballots to officially give the win to President Donald Trump, by nearly 4,000 votes.

“I must emphasize this human error did not in anyway,” says Guy, “Affect the official election results of Antrim County.”

Antrim County Clerk Testifies in Lansing Over Election Issues

The forensic analysis says otherwise. They are a lot smarter than you are, Tom. I'll go with actual evidence, not claims of innocence that can not be proven. Again, up and down the line, there is a major CYA operation going on there in Michigan. They've made their state a laughingstock of corruption, incompetence and denialism.

Didn't they handcount a lot all over & not find anything?

(12-14-2020 01:20 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Anybody with a functioning brain can see that this is a CYA attempt by the corrupt dems at the top of the MI government. They know they've been caught and hope that their pleas of innocence will sway others not to engage their brain and think for themselves. It works on Tom because he doesn't recognize evidence that contradicts his deeply held love for the democrat thieves and miscreants.

WTF are you talking about? Antrim is a GOP county. The GOP clerk already testified to the GOP led legislature that it was human error. Michigan has paper ballots, the county canvassed the results and also hand counted the votes. They certified the result to the state saying the votes matched the machine count which matched the county voter roles.

And this suit had nothing to do with the presidential race anyway. It was for a local marijuana issue. No Republicans, including the trump administration, sought to contest the presidential race in this county.

This is a stunt done by a outfit that already disgraced themselves in this election by claiming Minnesota results were actually from Michigan.

(12-14-2020 01:25 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 01:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  For the galactically stupid liars....

Quote:The first reports out of Antrim County after Election Day had former Vice President Joe Biden winning the county by 2,200 votes. That sent up alarms that something went wrong.

“It was a result of human error facilitated after two ballot corrections,” says Guy.

Late additions to ballots in two precincts, done incorrectly, started a chain reaction that lead to the mistake. Guy was grilled on the mistake by lawmakers during her testimony.

“It seems like you still don’t really have an understanding of what happened in your county,” says Representative Matt Hall of Marshall, “Is that fair? Or do you think you know what happened?”

“I do think I know what happened,” said Guy, “I believe that when we got a new flash drive, we should’ve pulled all of our jurisdictions back and re-programmed them. We did not do that.”

She says the next day was spent hand counting ballots to officially give the win to President Donald Trump, by nearly 4,000 votes.

“I must emphasize this human error did not in anyway,” says Guy, “Affect the official election results of Antrim County.”

Antrim County Clerk Testifies in Lansing Over Election Issues

So her testimony counts as evidence but the other 100s of sworn affidavits don't?
Gotcha.

Good...you're finally catching on. An affidavit is not testimony. It's one person's account of events. It's hardly ever recognized as evidence because the party making the claim has not been deposed.

(12-14-2020 01:25 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 01:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  For the galactically stupid liars....

Quote:The first reports out of Antrim County after Election Day had former Vice President Joe Biden winning the county by 2,200 votes. That sent up alarms that something went wrong.

“It was a result of human error facilitated after two ballot corrections,” says Guy.

Late additions to ballots in two precincts, done incorrectly, started a chain reaction that lead to the mistake. Guy was grilled on the mistake by lawmakers during her testimony.

“It seems like you still don’t really have an understanding of what happened in your county,” says Representative Matt Hall of Marshall, “Is that fair? Or do you think you know what happened?”

“I do think I know what happened,” said Guy, “I believe that when we got a new flash drive, we should’ve pulled all of our jurisdictions back and re-programmed them. We did not do that.”

She says the next day was spent hand counting ballots to officially give the win to President Donald Trump, by nearly 4,000 votes.

“I must emphasize this human error did not in anyway,” says Guy, “Affect the official election results of Antrim County.”

Antrim County Clerk Testifies in Lansing Over Election Issues

The forensic analysis says otherwise. They are a lot smarter than you are, Tom. I'll go with actual evidence, not claims of innocence that can not be proven. Again, up and down the line, there is a major CYA operation going on there in Michigan. They've made their state a laughingstock of corruption, incompetence and denialism.

These clowns thought (or purposely lied) that Minnesota was Michigan!

Not to mention, you're only hearing one side of things so far...just like a worthless affidavit by someone who thinks they know something.

(12-14-2020 01:25 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  Didn't they handcount a lot all over & not find anything?

Based on what I quoted above from the Clerk of Antrim County, they did a hand count of the paper ballots. If there was an error of any magnitude, the GOP led county would have said something.

(12-14-2020 01:30 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 01:25 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 01:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  For the galactically stupid liars....

Quote:The first reports out of Antrim County after Election Day had former Vice President Joe Biden winning the county by 2,200 votes. That sent up alarms that something went wrong.

“It was a result of human error facilitated after two ballot corrections,” says Guy.

Late additions to ballots in two precincts, done incorrectly, started a chain reaction that lead to the mistake. Guy was grilled on the mistake by lawmakers during her testimony.

“It seems like you still don’t really have an understanding of what happened in your county,” says Representative Matt Hall of Marshall, “Is that fair? Or do you think you know what happened?”

“I do think I know what happened,” said Guy, “I believe that when we got a new flash drive, we should’ve pulled all of our jurisdictions back and re-programmed them. We did not do that.”

She says the next day was spent hand counting ballots to officially give the win to President Donald Trump, by nearly 4,000 votes.

“I must emphasize this human error did not in anyway,” says Guy, “Affect the official election results of Antrim County.”

Antrim County Clerk Testifies in Lansing Over Election Issues

So her testimony counts as evidence but the other 100s of sworn affidavits don't?
Gotcha.

Good...you're finally catching on. An affidavit is not testimony. It's one person's account of events. It's hardly ever recognized as evidence because the party making the claim has not been deposed.

Actually, depending on the state, many of these witness's were deposed by opposing lawyers.

(12-14-2020 01:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  For the galactically stupid liars....

You are the only member of that club.

(12-14-2020 01:31 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 01:25 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 01:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  For the galactically stupid liars....

Quote:The first reports out of Antrim County after Election Day had former Vice President Joe Biden winning the county by 2,200 votes. That sent up alarms that something went wrong.

“It was a result of human error facilitated after two ballot corrections,” says Guy.

Late additions to ballots in two precincts, done incorrectly, started a chain reaction that lead to the mistake. Guy was grilled on the mistake by lawmakers during her testimony.

“It seems like you still don’t really have an understanding of what happened in your county,” says Representative Matt Hall of Marshall, “Is that fair? Or do you think you know what happened?”

“I do think I know what happened,” said Guy, “I believe that when we got a new flash drive, we should’ve pulled all of our jurisdictions back and re-programmed them. We did not do that.”

She says the next day was spent hand counting ballots to officially give the win to President Donald Trump, by nearly 4,000 votes.

“I must emphasize this human error did not in anyway,” says Guy, “Affect the official election results of Antrim County.”

Antrim County Clerk Testifies in Lansing Over Election Issues

The forensic analysis says otherwise. They are a lot smarter than you are, Tom. I'll go with actual evidence, not claims of innocence that can not be proven. Again, up and down the line, there is a major CYA operation going on there in Michigan. They've made their state a laughingstock of corruption, incompetence and denialism.

These clowns thought (or purposely lied) that Minnesota was Michigan!

Not to mention, you're only hearing one side of things so far...just like a worthless affidavit by someone who thinks they know something.

What's worthless is your opinion that you know better than forensic experts. You're a fool, Tom and you prove it with each denialist post.

If this was all on the up and up, the Attorney General would not have been trying so hard to block the release of the forensic evidence. She and her fellow corruptocrats would not be working so hard to establish a false narrative. If the results were so legit, they would have no problem with allowing the information to get out there. Like any democrat, whenever any info comes along to threaten their narrative, they shout "disinformation." Right out of the playbook.

You know it, I know it and so does any thinking person.

(12-14-2020 01:30 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 01:25 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 01:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  For the galactically stupid liars....

Quote:The first reports out of Antrim County after Election Day had former Vice President Joe Biden winning the county by 2,200 votes. That sent up alarms that something went wrong.

“It was a result of human error facilitated after two ballot corrections,” says Guy.

Late additions to ballots in two precincts, done incorrectly, started a chain reaction that lead to the mistake. Guy was grilled on the mistake by lawmakers during her testimony.

“It seems like you still don’t really have an understanding of what happened in your county,” says Representative Matt Hall of Marshall, “Is that fair? Or do you think you know what happened?”

“I do think I know what happened,” said Guy, “I believe that when we got a new flash drive, we should’ve pulled all of our jurisdictions back and re-programmed them. We did not do that.”

She says the next day was spent hand counting ballots to officially give the win to President Donald Trump, by nearly 4,000 votes.

“I must emphasize this human error did not in anyway,” says Guy, “Affect the official election results of Antrim County.”

Antrim County Clerk Testifies in Lansing Over Election Issues

So her testimony counts as evidence but the other 100s of sworn affidavits don't?
Gotcha.

Good...you're finally catching on. An affidavit is not testimony. It's one person's account of events. It's hardly ever recognized as evidence because the party making the claim has not been deposed.

Well, that would be news to the judicial world, especially since an affadavit is testimony.

#DUMBAZZ

(12-14-2020 01:35 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 01:30 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 01:25 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 01:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  For the galactically stupid liars....

Quote:The first reports out of Antrim County after Election Day had former Vice President Joe Biden winning the county by 2,200 votes. That sent up alarms that something went wrong.

“It was a result of human error facilitated after two ballot corrections,” says Guy.

Late additions to ballots in two precincts, done incorrectly, started a chain reaction that lead to the mistake. Guy was grilled on the mistake by lawmakers during her testimony.

“It seems like you still don’t really have an understanding of what happened in your county,” says Representative Matt Hall of Marshall, “Is that fair? Or do you think you know what happened?”

“I do think I know what happened,” said Guy, “I believe that when we got a new flash drive, we should’ve pulled all of our jurisdictions back and re-programmed them. We did not do that.”

She says the next day was spent hand counting ballots to officially give the win to President Donald Trump, by nearly 4,000 votes.

“I must emphasize this human error did not in anyway,” says Guy, “Affect the official election results of Antrim County.”

Antrim County Clerk Testifies in Lansing Over Election Issues

So her testimony counts as evidence but the other 100s of sworn affidavits don't?
Gotcha.

Good...you're finally catching on. An affidavit is not testimony. It's one person's account of events. It's hardly ever recognized as evidence because the party making the claim has not been deposed.

Actually, depending on the state, many of these witness's were deposed by opposing lawyers.

By their own lawyers??? Or by GOP reps in fake hearings? Or in actual hearings like here in Michigan when that blond moron accused the GOP rep of altering the voter rolls with ZERO evidence other than raising her eyebrows.

(12-14-2020 01:36 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 01:31 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 01:25 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(12-14-2020 01:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  For the galactically stupid liars....

Quote:The first reports out of Antrim County after Election Day had former Vice President Joe Biden winning the county by 2,200 votes. That sent up alarms that something went wrong.

“It was a result of human error facilitated after two ballot corrections,” says Guy.

Late additions to ballots in two precincts, done incorrectly, started a chain reaction that lead to the mistake. Guy was grilled on the mistake by lawmakers during her testimony.

“It seems like you still don’t really have an understanding of what happened in your county,” says Representative Matt Hall of Marshall, “Is that fair? Or do you think you know what happened?”

“I do think I know what happened,” said Guy, “I believe that when we got a new flash drive, we should’ve pulled all of our jurisdictions back and re-programmed them. We did not do that.”

She says the next day was spent hand counting ballots to officially give the win to President Donald Trump, by nearly 4,000 votes.

“I must emphasize this human error did not in anyway,” says Guy, “Affect the official election results of Antrim County.”

Antrim County Clerk Testifies in Lansing Over Election Issues

The forensic analysis says otherwise. They are a lot smarter than you are, Tom. I'll go with actual evidence, not claims of innocence that can not be proven. Again, up and down the line, there is a major CYA operation going on there in Michigan. They've made their state a laughingstock of corruption, incompetence and denialism.

These clowns thought (or purposely lied) that Minnesota was Michigan!

Not to mention, you're only hearing one side of things so far...just like a worthless affidavit by someone who thinks they know something.

What's worthless is your opinion that you know better than forensic experts. You're a fool, Tom and you prove it with each denialist post.

If this was all on the up and up, the Attorney General would not have been trying so hard to block the release of the forensic evidence. She and her fellow corruptocrats would not be working so hard to establish a false narrative. If the results were so legit, they would have no problem with allowing the information to get out there. Like any democrat, whenever any info comes along to threaten their narrative, they shout "disinformation." Right out of the playbook.

You know it, I know it and so does any thinking person.

Forensic experts...you mean like Kraken's expert who was a glorified mechanic?

You're being used again.

Again, this outfit of experts introduced Minnesota evidence as Michigan!

(12-14-2020 01:02 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

Now, the Michigan Attorney General is threatening lawyers. Somebody needs to set her straight. A class action lawsuit, perhaps?

SHE is whom is demeaning her profession.

A colorable claim in good faith usually meets the standard. She should probably be sanctioned just for the public threat tweet.