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Speculating What Scheduling in a New WAC Would Look Like
Let's presume for all intents and purposes, Chicago State is out of the picture and that the league adds Southern Utah & the four Texas-based institutions... still need one more team to join or someone to leave...

Again, all speculation... but I really am trying to share with my Southland brethren how scheduling can be done in a decent enough way to limit travel out of Texas.

West
Cal Baptist
Dixie State
Grand Canyon
New Mexico State
Seattle
Southern Utah
Utah Valley

East *
Abilene Christian
Lamar
Sam Houston State
Stephen F Austin
Tarleton State
UT-RGV

East features one TBA school; could be a D2 team from Texas, a non-football add (not so likely) or end up being New Mexico State if one of the Big Sky schools come over
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Football - All teams play each other once.

Men's and Women's Basketball - Home-and-homes within divisions; a single game against the teams in the other division (rotating each year home & away). That's 12 divisional games & 7 intra-division games (19 game schedule; you could conceivably add one "intra-divisional rival" to balance things at 10 home/10 away and 20 game schedule

Volleyball/Softball - Divisional schedule only with the addition of one or two "round-ups" allowing intradivisional play (say that all teams converge once in the west and once in the east)

Swimming & Diving / Beach Volleyball / Cross Country / Track & Field / Golf - a single championship event as is the case now

Tennis - no regular season play; end of season tournament based on ITA rankings

Baseball - this is where I am stuck; could you conceivably do home-and-homes within the division? That's 36 games (6 opponents x 3 x 2) in league play and then do a tournament based on divisional seeding/rank? Maybe do "pool play" in the tournament so everyone gets at least three games?
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Man, I hate to be that guy but unless your purpose is really intense then its "intents and purposes". Sorry, just a pet peeve of mine.
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Serious question for you Texas 4 guys complaining about travel cost in the WAC. Why is it such a big thing? Can you guys not afford it or is it that you guys are not use to traveling? I mean if Chi state can afford it any D1 school can. Is your guys budget smaller than theirs? Chi St has been doing it for years. How does your guys budget compare to the current WAC. l never heard schools like Tarleton and Dixie complain about travel like the texas 4.
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(12-09-2020 04:01 PM)Trod0 Wrote:  Serious question for you Texas 4 guys complaining about travel cost in the WAC. Why is it such a big thing? Can you guys not afford it or is it that you guys are not use to traveling? I mean if Chi state can afford it any D1 school can. Is your guys budget smaller than theirs? Chi St has been doing it for years. How does your guys budget compare to the current WAC. l never heard schools like Tarleton and Dixie complain about travel like the texas 4.

There's a feel that the WAC is a "lateral move" vs. an upgrade or not enough of an 'upgrade' to justify the travel costs of being in a league that's not a "bus league" like we are in.

The lowest budget of the Texas institutions is $17M based on recent figures. All of us (at least the public ones) are in the $17M-20M range.
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(12-09-2020 04:00 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  Man, I hate to be that guy but unless your purpose is really intense then its "intents and purposes". Sorry, just a pet peeve of mine.

Maybe he was using voice recognition software. Gotta cut people all the slack we can.
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(12-09-2020 04:13 PM)TexasTerror Wrote:  
(12-09-2020 04:01 PM)Trod0 Wrote:  Serious question for you Texas 4 guys complaining about travel cost in the WAC. Why is it such a big thing? Can you guys not afford it or is it that you guys are not use to traveling? I mean if Chi state can afford it any D1 school can. Is your guys budget smaller than theirs? Chi St has been doing it for years. How does your guys budget compare to the current WAC. l never heard schools like Tarleton and Dixie complain about travel like the texas 4.

There's a feel that the WAC is a "lateral move" vs. an upgrade or not enough of an 'upgrade' to justify the travel costs of being in a league that's not a "bus league" like we are in.

The lowest budget of the Texas institutions is $17M based on recent figures. All of us (at least the public ones) are in the $17M-20M range.

Aside from costs, you wouldn't have to cross the Louisiana state line and deal with swamps, mosquitoes, difficult accents, Boudin "sausage", and lack of decent breakfast tacos.

Although Beaumont is almost as bad.
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(12-09-2020 03:50 PM)TexasTerror Wrote:  Let's presume for all intents and purposes, Chicago State is out of the picture and that the league adds Southern Utah & the four Texas-based institutions... still need one more team to join or someone to leave...

Again, all speculation... but I really am trying to share with my Southland brethren how scheduling can be done in a decent enough way to limit travel out of Texas.

West
Cal Baptist
Dixie State
Grand Canyon
New Mexico State
Seattle
Southern Utah
Utah Valley

East *
Abilene Christian
Lamar
Sam Houston State
Stephen F Austin
Tarleton State
UT-RGV

East features one TBA school; could be a D2 team from Texas, a non-football add (not so likely) or end up being New Mexico State if one of the Big Sky schools come over
==

Football - All teams play each other once.

Men's and Women's Basketball - Home-and-homes within divisions; a single game against the teams in the other division (rotating each year home & away). That's 12 divisional games & 7 intra-division games (19 game schedule; you could conceivably add one "intra-divisional rival" to balance things at 10 home/10 away and 20 game schedule

Volleyball/Softball - Divisional schedule only with the addition of one or two "round-ups" allowing intradivisional play (say that all teams converge once in the west and once in the east)

Swimming & Diving / Beach Volleyball / Cross Country / Track & Field / Golf - a single championship event as is the case now

Tennis - no regular season play; end of season tournament based on ITA rankings

Baseball - this is where I am stuck; could you conceivably do home-and-homes within the division? That's 36 games (6 opponents x 3 x 2) in league play and then do a tournament based on divisional seeding/rank? Maybe do "pool play" in the tournament so everyone gets at least three games?

In football, you only have to travel to a location once every two years, so I'm not sure cost of travel in football is a huge deal. Where the money gets spent is in the Oly Sports. I think you have it nailed above.

For baseball, if I remember correctly teams can play up to something like 56 games that run from Mid Febraury to mid-May (~13 weekends). If you did Home/homes, you would be utilizing about the entire season just playing divisional opponents. I think you would probably set it up so that you play everyone in your division (3 games, home OR away). At the end of the season the top 4 from each division get seeded into the conference tournament. That leaves 7 weekends (plus weekday games) to schedule OOC opponents. Not sure how the Southland does their scheduling, but I can't see this being much different for teams.

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Why would we presume any of this?

MOD - Can we get a judge's ruling on this nonsensical, baseless realignment thread?
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Loved this map posted on reddit.

https://www.mapcustomizer.com/map/New_WAC_12_8_2020
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(12-09-2020 03:50 PM)TexasTerror Wrote:  Let's presume for all intents and purposes, Chicago State is out of the picture and that the league adds Southern Utah & the four Texas-based institutions... still need one more team to join or someone to leave...

Again, all speculation... but I really am trying to share with my Southland brethren how scheduling can be done in a decent enough way to limit travel out of Texas.

West
Cal Baptist
Dixie State
Grand Canyon
New Mexico State
Seattle
Southern Utah
Utah Valley

East *
Abilene Christian
Lamar
Sam Houston State
Stephen F Austin
Tarleton State
UT-RGV

East features one TBA school; could be a D2 team from Texas, a non-football add (not so likely) or end up being New Mexico State if one of the Big Sky schools come over
==

Football - All teams play each other once.

Men's and Women's Basketball - Home-and-homes within divisions; a single game against the teams in the other division (rotating each year home & away). That's 12 divisional games & 7 intra-division games (19 game schedule; you could conceivably add one "intra-divisional rival" to balance things at 10 home/10 away and 20 game schedule

Volleyball/Softball - Divisional schedule only with the addition of one or two "round-ups" allowing intradivisional play (say that all teams converge once in the west and once in the east)

Swimming & Diving / Beach Volleyball / Cross Country / Track & Field / Golf - a single championship event as is the case now

Tennis - no regular season play; end of season tournament based on ITA rankings

Baseball - this is where I am stuck; could you conceivably do home-and-homes within the division? That's 36 games (6 opponents x 3 x 2) in league play and then do a tournament based on divisional seeding/rank? Maybe do "pool play" in the tournament so everyone gets at least three games?

Well, tell those bumpkins you're gonna have to check your Nacogdoches to Beaumont Hwy 69 mentality at the door. You join the WAC so you CAN travel outside of Texas and expand your brand into new markets. SFA playing in Seattle. Sam taking on GCU in Phoenix. Lamar vs. CBU on TV in LA. ACU getting whooped in Chicago. Not only that, your recruiting grounds and pipelines will grow exponentially. The move to the WAC is a visionary one. If you only focus on the dollars, it won't make cents.
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(12-09-2020 03:50 PM)TexasTerror Wrote:  Let's presume for all intents and purposes, Chicago State is out of the picture and that the league adds Southern Utah & the four Texas-based institutions... still need one more team to join or someone to leave...

Again, all speculation... but I really am trying to share with my Southland brethren how scheduling can be done in a decent enough way to limit travel out of Texas.

West
Cal Baptist
Dixie State
Grand Canyon
New Mexico State
Seattle
Southern Utah
Utah Valley

East *
Abilene Christian
Lamar
Sam Houston State
Stephen F Austin
Tarleton State
UT-RGV

East features one TBA school; could be a D2 team from Texas, a non-football add (not so likely) or end up being New Mexico State if one of the Big Sky schools come over
==

Football - All teams play each other once.

Men's and Women's Basketball - Home-and-homes within divisions; a single game against the teams in the other division (rotating each year home & away). That's 12 divisional games & 7 intra-division games (19 game schedule; you could conceivably add one "intra-divisional rival" to balance things at 10 home/10 away and 20 game schedule

Volleyball/Softball - Divisional schedule only with the addition of one or two "round-ups" allowing intradivisional play (say that all teams converge once in the west and once in the east)

Swimming & Diving / Beach Volleyball / Cross Country / Track & Field / Golf - a single championship event as is the case now

Tennis - no regular season play; end of season tournament based on ITA rankings

Baseball - this is where I am stuck; could you conceivably do home-and-homes within the division? That's 36 games (6 opponents x 3 x 2) in league play and then do a tournament based on divisional seeding/rank? Maybe do "pool play" in the tournament so everyone gets at least three games?

So you are gonna take out ChiSt (an eastern school) and then say your speculation includes a TBA eastern school? SMH. These threads are so ridiculous. Don’t change things to fit your narrative.
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Chicago State is in the WAC until they are not. Imagining a new WAC without current members is pointless. "If" the Texas Four and Southern Utah decide to join the WAC, they will need to take the conference as is; and that includes Chicago State. Yes, the WAC could be a more condensed conference without Chicago State but the same could be said if the WAC didn't have Seattle U. either. However, for the foreseeable future both schools are... will be... and have been full WAC members.
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(12-09-2020 06:15 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  Chicago State is in the WAC until they are not. Imagining a new WAC without current members is pointless. "If" the Texas Four and Southern Utah decide to join the WAC, they will need to take the conference as is; and that includes Chicago State. Yes, the WAC could be a more condensed conference without Chicago State but the same could be said if the WAC didn't have Seattle U. either. However, for the foreseeable future both schools are... will... and have been full WAC members.

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(12-09-2020 05:15 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(12-09-2020 03:50 PM)TexasTerror Wrote:  Let's presume for all intents and purposes, Chicago State is out of the picture and that the league adds Southern Utah & the four Texas-based institutions... still need one more team to join or someone to leave...

Again, all speculation... but I really am trying to share with my Southland brethren how scheduling can be done in a decent enough way to limit travel out of Texas.

West
Cal Baptist
Dixie State
Grand Canyon
New Mexico State
Seattle
Southern Utah
Utah Valley

East *
Abilene Christian
Lamar
Sam Houston State
Stephen F Austin
Tarleton State
UT-RGV

East features one TBA school; could be a D2 team from Texas, a non-football add (not so likely) or end up being New Mexico State if one of the Big Sky schools come over
==

Football - All teams play each other once.

Men's and Women's Basketball - Home-and-homes within divisions; a single game against the teams in the other division (rotating each year home & away). That's 12 divisional games & 7 intra-division games (19 game schedule; you could conceivably add one "intra-divisional rival" to balance things at 10 home/10 away and 20 game schedule

Volleyball/Softball - Divisional schedule only with the addition of one or two "round-ups" allowing intradivisional play (say that all teams converge once in the west and once in the east)

Swimming & Diving / Beach Volleyball / Cross Country / Track & Field / Golf - a single championship event as is the case now

Tennis - no regular season play; end of season tournament based on ITA rankings

Baseball - this is where I am stuck; could you conceivably do home-and-homes within the division? That's 36 games (6 opponents x 3 x 2) in league play and then do a tournament based on divisional seeding/rank? Maybe do "pool play" in the tournament so everyone gets at least three games?

Well, tell those bumpkins you're gonna have to check your Nacogdoches to Beaumont Hwy 69 mentality at the door. You join the WAC so you CAN travel outside of Texas and expand your brand into new markets. SFA playing in Seattle. Sam taking on GCU in Phoenix. Lamar vs. CBU on TV in LA. ACU getting whooped in Chicago. Not only that, your recruiting grounds and pipelines will grow exponentially. The move to the WAC is a visionary one. If you only focus on the dollars, it won't make cents.

Regardless of what conference you're in no brand is getting built or expanded upon unless theres a TV deal. What does the WAC tv deal look like?
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(12-09-2020 07:17 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  
(12-09-2020 05:15 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(12-09-2020 03:50 PM)TexasTerror Wrote:  Let's presume for all intents and purposes, Chicago State is out of the picture and that the league adds Southern Utah & the four Texas-based institutions... still need one more team to join or someone to leave...

Again, all speculation... but I really am trying to share with my Southland brethren how scheduling can be done in a decent enough way to limit travel out of Texas.

West
Cal Baptist
Dixie State
Grand Canyon
New Mexico State
Seattle
Southern Utah
Utah Valley

East *
Abilene Christian
Lamar
Sam Houston State
Stephen F Austin
Tarleton State
UT-RGV

East features one TBA school; could be a D2 team from Texas, a non-football add (not so likely) or end up being New Mexico State if one of the Big Sky schools come over
==

Football - All teams play each other once.

Men's and Women's Basketball - Home-and-homes within divisions; a single game against the teams in the other division (rotating each year home & away). That's 12 divisional games & 7 intra-division games (19 game schedule; you could conceivably add one "intra-divisional rival" to balance things at 10 home/10 away and 20 game schedule

Volleyball/Softball - Divisional schedule only with the addition of one or two "round-ups" allowing intradivisional play (say that all teams converge once in the west and once in the east)

Swimming & Diving / Beach Volleyball / Cross Country / Track & Field / Golf - a single championship event as is the case now

Tennis - no regular season play; end of season tournament based on ITA rankings

Baseball - this is where I am stuck; could you conceivably do home-and-homes within the division? That's 36 games (6 opponents x 3 x 2) in league play and then do a tournament based on divisional seeding/rank? Maybe do "pool play" in the tournament so everyone gets at least three games?

Well, tell those bumpkins you're gonna have to check your Nacogdoches to Beaumont Hwy 69 mentality at the door. You join the WAC so you CAN travel outside of Texas and expand your brand into new markets. SFA playing in Seattle. Sam taking on GCU in Phoenix. Lamar vs. CBU on TV in LA. ACU getting whooped in Chicago. Not only that, your recruiting grounds and pipelines will grow exponentially. The move to the WAC is a visionary one. If you only focus on the dollars, it won't make cents.

Regardless of what conference you're in no brand is getting built or expanded upon unless theres a TV deal. What does the WAC tv deal look like?

Oh, you bobbie cats and your TV deal. We get it, you got a TV deal. Happy for ya bud. Really am. Guaran-dang-tee ya though, the WAC basketball tourney in Vegas will be a made-for-TV event. And that Sunbelt tourney...well, you do have a TV deal.
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(12-09-2020 07:27 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(12-09-2020 07:17 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  
(12-09-2020 05:15 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(12-09-2020 03:50 PM)TexasTerror Wrote:  Let's presume for all intents and purposes, Chicago State is out of the picture and that the league adds Southern Utah & the four Texas-based institutions... still need one more team to join or someone to leave...

Again, all speculation... but I really am trying to share with my Southland brethren how scheduling can be done in a decent enough way to limit travel out of Texas.

West
Cal Baptist
Dixie State
Grand Canyon
New Mexico State
Seattle
Southern Utah
Utah Valley

East *
Abilene Christian
Lamar
Sam Houston State
Stephen F Austin
Tarleton State
UT-RGV

East features one TBA school; could be a D2 team from Texas, a non-football add (not so likely) or end up being New Mexico State if one of the Big Sky schools come over
==

Football - All teams play each other once.

Men's and Women's Basketball - Home-and-homes within divisions; a single game against the teams in the other division (rotating each year home & away). That's 12 divisional games & 7 intra-division games (19 game schedule; you could conceivably add one "intra-divisional rival" to balance things at 10 home/10 away and 20 game schedule

Volleyball/Softball - Divisional schedule only with the addition of one or two "round-ups" allowing intradivisional play (say that all teams converge once in the west and once in the east)

Swimming & Diving / Beach Volleyball / Cross Country / Track & Field / Golf - a single championship event as is the case now

Tennis - no regular season play; end of season tournament based on ITA rankings

Baseball - this is where I am stuck; could you conceivably do home-and-homes within the division? That's 36 games (6 opponents x 3 x 2) in league play and then do a tournament based on divisional seeding/rank? Maybe do "pool play" in the tournament so everyone gets at least three games?

Well, tell those bumpkins you're gonna have to check your Nacogdoches to Beaumont Hwy 69 mentality at the door. You join the WAC so you CAN travel outside of Texas and expand your brand into new markets. SFA playing in Seattle. Sam taking on GCU in Phoenix. Lamar vs. CBU on TV in LA. ACU getting whooped in Chicago. Not only that, your recruiting grounds and pipelines will grow exponentially. The move to the WAC is a visionary one. If you only focus on the dollars, it won't make cents.

Regardless of what conference you're in no brand is getting built or expanded upon unless theres a TV deal. What does the WAC tv deal look like?

Oh, you bobbie cats and your TV deal. We get it, you got a TV deal. Happy for ya bud. Really am. Guaran-dang-tee ya though, the WAC basketball tourney in Vegas will be a made-for-TV event. And that Sunbelt tourney...well, you do have a TV deal.

Man its an honest question. Our basketball TV deal isnt very good, we're lucky to get a conference game or two on TV. Nothing I would brag about. Sorry I asked.
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I think the WAC “TV deal” (if anyone can call it that) is for ESPN to carry the conference tournament on their family of networks and host a handful of games on their streaming service ESPN+.

We do have the WACDN which allows for fans of the teams in the conference to watch a lot of the games online/Roku.

The WAC certainly is going to have to grow in stature before it can command any kind of national TV deal that would provide any real exposure, but as I believe IT said, these moves are about vision for the future, not necessarily about what we can get day 1.
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(12-09-2020 07:27 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(12-09-2020 07:17 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  
(12-09-2020 05:15 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(12-09-2020 03:50 PM)TexasTerror Wrote:  Let's presume for all intents and purposes, Chicago State is out of the picture and that the league adds Southern Utah & the four Texas-based institutions... still need one more team to join or someone to leave...

Again, all speculation... but I really am trying to share with my Southland brethren how scheduling can be done in a decent enough way to limit travel out of Texas.

West
Cal Baptist
Dixie State
Grand Canyon
New Mexico State
Seattle
Southern Utah
Utah Valley

East *
Abilene Christian
Lamar
Sam Houston State
Stephen F Austin
Tarleton State
UT-RGV

East features one TBA school; could be a D2 team from Texas, a non-football add (not so likely) or end up being New Mexico State if one of the Big Sky schools come over
==

Football - All teams play each other once.

Men's and Women's Basketball - Home-and-homes within divisions; a single game against the teams in the other division (rotating each year home & away). That's 12 divisional games & 7 intra-division games (19 game schedule; you could conceivably add one "intra-divisional rival" to balance things at 10 home/10 away and 20 game schedule

Volleyball/Softball - Divisional schedule only with the addition of one or two "round-ups" allowing intradivisional play (say that all teams converge once in the west and once in the east)

Swimming & Diving / Beach Volleyball / Cross Country / Track & Field / Golf - a single championship event as is the case now

Tennis - no regular season play; end of season tournament based on ITA rankings

Baseball - this is where I am stuck; could you conceivably do home-and-homes within the division? That's 36 games (6 opponents x 3 x 2) in league play and then do a tournament based on divisional seeding/rank? Maybe do "pool play" in the tournament so everyone gets at least three games?

Well, tell those bumpkins you're gonna have to check your Nacogdoches to Beaumont Hwy 69 mentality at the door. You join the WAC so you CAN travel outside of Texas and expand your brand into new markets. SFA playing in Seattle. Sam taking on GCU in Phoenix. Lamar vs. CBU on TV in LA. ACU getting whooped in Chicago. Not only that, your recruiting grounds and pipelines will grow exponentially. The move to the WAC is a visionary one. If you only focus on the dollars, it won't make cents.

Regardless of what conference you're in no brand is getting built or expanded upon unless theres a TV deal. What does the WAC tv deal look like?

Oh, you bobbie cats and your TV deal. We get it, you got a TV deal. Happy for ya bud. Really am. Guaran-dang-tee ya though, the WAC basketball tourney in Vegas will be a made-for-TV event. And that Sunbelt tourney...well, you do have a TV deal.
Cmon IT, he wasn't trying to be a dick about it. This is an an honest question,

Just like professional sports some leagues are ESPN properties, others are FoxSports brands and other league just do their own thing.

The Southland tv deal previously SUCKED. They sold rights to ESPN and they are carried on the EsPn+ app and built a federation of over the air digital secondary channels (ie bunny ear 5.3).

The Big Sky has sports on free apps like Pluto TV.

The Sun Belt has the championship game and a few randos during on TV each year but most is handled through the app. During Covid, the Belt has taken advantage of teams not playing and some other leagues being affiliated with the fox sports properties to highlight their programs.

Because MWC and CUSA are not ESPN properties, their games aren't shown as much on that platform. I find their games on Fox Sports, NFL network, OTA, CBS Sports.... honestly it's a crapshoot.
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(12-09-2020 04:21 PM)edinburger Wrote:  
(12-09-2020 04:13 PM)TexasTerror Wrote:  
(12-09-2020 04:01 PM)Trod0 Wrote:  Serious question for you Texas 4 guys complaining about travel cost in the WAC. Why is it such a big thing? Can you guys not afford it or is it that you guys are not use to traveling? I mean if Chi state can afford it any D1 school can. Is your guys budget smaller than theirs? Chi St has been doing it for years. How does your guys budget compare to the current WAC. l never heard schools like Tarleton and Dixie complain about travel like the texas 4.

There's a feel that the WAC is a "lateral move" vs. an upgrade or not enough of an 'upgrade' to justify the travel costs of being in a league that's not a "bus league" like we are in.

The lowest budget of the Texas institutions is $17M based on recent figures. All of us (at least the public ones) are in the $17M-20M range.

Aside from costs, you wouldn't have to cross the Louisiana state line and deal with swamps, mosquitoes, difficult accents, Boudin "sausage", and lack of decent breakfast tacos.

Although Beaumont is almost as bad.

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(12-09-2020 06:15 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  Chicago State is in the WAC until they are not. Imagining a new WAC without current members is pointless. "If" the Texas Four and Southern Utah decide to join the WAC, they will need to take the conference as is; and that includes Chicago State. Yes, the WAC could be a more condensed conference without Chicago State but the same could be said if the WAC didn't have Seattle U. either. However, for the foreseeable future both schools are... will be... and have been full WAC members.

Yup. The Texas noobs are making membership edicts and they aren't even members yet. Smh.
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